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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 08:13 PM Aug 2013

US Bill Targets French Rail Company For Holocaust Role

By FRANCE 24 (text)

US lawmakers have re-introduced legislation that seeks to hold the SNCF, France's state-owned rail company, accountable for its role in transporting Jews to their deaths during the Holocaust.

US Senator Chuck Schumer led a bipartisan group of sponsors in introducing the measure late Wednesday that would hold the railway culpable in American courts.

The move would allow US victims to pursue lawsuits against the company, which argues that it is immune to legal action under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act, which limits the ways in which foreign countries can be sued in US court.

"Survivors and family members of those who perished have long attempted to hold SNCF accountable for its active role during the Holocaust, but so far the company has succeeded in cloaking itself in foreign sovereign immunity, evading jurisdiction in United States courts," Schumer said in a statement.

"The Holocaust Rail Justice Act would finally enable survivors and family members to hold this French rail company accountable in a court of law for sending thousands to their death during World War II, and allow survivors and family members an opportunity for justice."

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US Bill Targets French Rail Company For Holocaust Role (Original Post) Purveyor Aug 2013 OP
How about IBM? antigop Aug 2013 #1
IIRC, a group wanted to or tried to sue the USA because they didn't bomb the railroad track leading Purveyor Aug 2013 #3
I don't quite understand RGinNJ Aug 2013 #2
Some of it -a ring around the Atlantic coast and Paris-was under direct control of Germany kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #5
Ironic n/t hootinholler Aug 2013 #4
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
3. IIRC, a group wanted to or tried to sue the USA because they didn't bomb the railroad track leading
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 08:46 PM
Aug 2013

into aushwitz for a few billion a while back.

Not sure what become of that but makes one wonder if this "Holocaust Rail Justice Act" wouldn't kick that door open again.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
5. Some of it -a ring around the Atlantic coast and Paris-was under direct control of Germany
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 10:31 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Fri Aug 2, 2013, 11:09 PM - Edit history (1)

The remainder of France was not under direct German control but under the control of the government of Marshall Petain, headquartered in Vichy.



The Vichy government was very anxious to assure Germans that it was finding, deporting and persecuting Jews just as furiously as the Germans would in their own Reich. In fact there are plenty of statements that can be found in the record about the French of the Vichy regime going beyond anything asked of them by the Nazis. The French were hardly unique in being more diligent Nazis than the German Nazis were themselves.

Whether a suit against SNCF has any merit today is another question altogether. The Vichy govt. was not elected, but appropriated the trappings of the French Republic during the downfall and flight into exile of the last government of the Third Republic. Were Petain, Laval et al. the "French Republic"? Is there continuity as they claimed at the time, between France before Occupation and during - and then after?
Was Vichy the legitimate government of France, or just puppets of the Nazi Reich? Most Frenchmen would hotly deny this continuity I feel certain and would deny that Vichy was a legitimate government of France. Its mere existence and it acts were inflicted on France by Germany, many would argue, and responsibility for its heinous acts died with Vichy and with the deaths of the individual scumbags who opportunistically seized power and acted as local overseers for Germany's exploitation of France, and those who joined in the black beret wearing Milice a fascist paramilitary and secret police adjunct of the Vichy regime.

On the other hand, it's not like there was no fascist rightwing in France before the war. And it's not like anti-Semitism was some German import without deep roots or power to influence events in French history before the Nazis invaded.

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