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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre you excited about Obama's potential use of Exec Orders
to bypass congress on Voting Rights, Healthcare, Job Creation, etc.?
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The President wants the Republicans to stop focusing on austerity measures and start focusing on bills that will help Americans. But with Congress refusing to pass any laws to help anybody but themselves, President Obama stated he would be using Executive Orders on issues such as voting rights, health care, job creation, the economy, climate change, infrastructure, education and immigration. And that is just to get started.
I want to make sure that all of us in Washington are investing as much time, as much energy, as much debate on how we grow the economy and grow the middle class as weve spent over the last two to three years arguing about how we reduce the deficits. He called for a shift away from what I think has been a damaging framework in Washington.
http://occupydemocrats.com/president-obama-ready-to-use-executive-orders/
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Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)If he could do this stuff he would have done so four years ago. Duh.
I am tired of this idea that Obama is an emperor who can help the economy without cooperation from Republicans in Congress.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)i dont think he is aberrant in that.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Hard to be excited about a step that is so late in coming. We'll see.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)We have three branches for a reason.
We need to fix congress, not eliminate it. Unless of course we are all for the next Republican President using them for HIS/HER agenda.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)I'm not excited about anything this government, in any branch, in any capacity, is capable of doing.
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)The Link
(757 posts)He is good at it.
alc
(1,151 posts)EOs are for directing his branch of the government. Not for writing or ignoring legislation and court rulings.
EOs related to management of the administration are fine (i.e. "be more transparent", "FOIA requests should be granted if there is doubt rather than denied" . Prioritizing work is good (e.g. put more effort toward implementation of regulation X over regulation Y). Rewriting regulations that congress has previously passed legislation on is ok though can be a bad precedent if the regulations were written by a previous administration.
Making up regulations without legislative direction is bad. Deciding not to enforce legislation is bad. Deciding to ignore court decisions is bad.
An R president can do anything a D president can do.
The next R president could decide to initiate austerity without congressional approval. "We have a budget for food stamps and lifeline phones and education programs but we just don't have anyone available to administer the programs so the money will just go unused. On the plus side the deficit is down".
The next R president can rewrite the 15,000+ pages of ACA regulations and pretty much undo all of it. The next R president can tell regulators to allow any and all premium increases and also provide waivers for any company or individual who wants to go outside the exchanges for non-ACA insurance.
It's a real bad idea to escalate the use of EOs as a way around congress.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)mick063
(2,424 posts)Look at his cabinet and ponder who is advising him. I fear executive power at the moment.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)your fear is about obama and his advisors?
mick063
(2,424 posts)Sometimes you have to ask why.
Why does the "I hate government" mantra have so much traction?
Remember when we were collectively proud of interstate highways and landing on the moon?
Reality TV has killed us. Fear factor is modern politics.
What would you rather eat? Rotten fish or maggots?
Regardless, if you eat them you are the grand prize winner.
Edit: Larry Summers is the rotten fish.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)I believe he should have started using them five years ago. As with everything Obama says, I will believe it when I see it.
millennialmax
(331 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Given the fact that the GOP is now openly hostile to any act of actual governance, EO's do provide the President some leverage and he might as well use it, even if its main effect is to remind people of the GOP's intentional inaction.