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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:13 PM Aug 2013

White House 'extremely disappointed' with Snowden asylum

White House 'extremely disappointed' with Snowden asylum
Published time: August 01, 2013 16:51

The White House is “extremely disappointed that the Russian government would take this step” despite US’s official and private requests to expel him, White House spokesperson Jay Carney said.

Carney stressed the US did not view Edward Snowden, who was granted temporary asylum in Russia on Thursday, as a whistleblower or dissident saying the NSA former contractor is accused of leaking classified information in his home country.

"We see this as an unfortunate development and we are extremely disappointed by it," Carney said adding the White House was set to contact the Russian authorities.

Carney stated that while no scheduling announcements were being made, the US is inspecting the worth of a summit with Russia. "We are evaluating the utility of the summit in light of this," he said.

...

http://rt.com/usa/white-house-snowden-asylum-918/

Details to follow

RT ?@RT_com 6m

MORE: White House is set to soon contact Russian authorities regarding #Snowden's asylum http://on.rt.com/wb648a

lesley clark ?@lesleyclark 3m

Carney clarifies that #G20 in St Pete is still on Obama calendar, but that Moscow bilat w #Putin is under review

Russia didn't give the US a heads up that #Snowden would b allowed to leave the airport, @PressSec says

"His level of disappointment is expressed in words I just spoke," Carney says of Obama, who had spoken w Putin on #snowden

Carney says #snowden affair threatens to "undermine" us-Russia cooperation, like that shown after Boston marathon bombing


State Dept spox Marie Harf: no announcement yet on 2+2 meetings w/#Russia, we're evaluating utility of that after #Snowden development
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White House 'extremely disappointed' with Snowden asylum (Original Post) Catherina Aug 2013 OP
Nothing compared to America's disappointment with NSA domestic spying. Octafish Aug 2013 #1
Just Beat Me To It HangOnKids Aug 2013 #5
what are they worried about? They can just rendition him. They do it all the time. librechik Aug 2013 #2
They don't like messing with Russia too brazenly. Get thee to an embassy Snowden! n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #6
Yes, he might want to consider that as a next step. He's a better position than Assange to sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #12
Well Shit Howdy HangOnKids Aug 2013 #3
They would cancel the summit over that and not over Putin throwing gay people in jail? ok. allin99 Aug 2013 #4
To be precise, they don't thow Gay people in jail, the law is against advertising & activism Catherina Aug 2013 #8
they arrested people at the protest under the law... allin99 Aug 2013 #9
The US isn't known to allow even worse laws against Gays to deter them from dealing with them. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #20
that's true. but i remember the u.s. putting up quite a stink about uganda... allin99 Aug 2013 #27
Yes, but only because people here demanded it since we are funding that government. And sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #34
ah, i wondered why we were saying anything... allin99 Aug 2013 #35
It isn't so long since this country was similarly barbaric towards minorities. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #37
but also regarding women... allin99 Aug 2013 #48
I'm not arguing about that, just being precise on what the law states Catherina Aug 2013 #38
and if someone doesn't like the public... allin99 Aug 2013 #40
It's totally primed for abuse. No argument there Catherina Aug 2013 #50
Catherina, it is about locking people up and it's about very ugly oppression cali Aug 2013 #16
But we have allies whose laws are even more ugly and more oppressive. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #22
Absolutely, but that doesn't and shouldn't prevent us from speaking the truth cali Aug 2013 #24
My point is, why have we waited until they provided asylum to Snowden to do so? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #31
The law was just passed. And who is "We"? I'm an individual and I don't take cali Aug 2013 #43
You have no fucking idea what about and where I have posted over the 12 years. So don't fucking sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #47
Yeah, I know that case. Catherina Aug 2013 #46
That's not what the Canadians are reporting--with disturbing images to accompany the text. MADem Aug 2013 #45
Tough choice. Wilms Aug 2013 #7
OT: Since when do WE refer to Obama as "Barry"? Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2013 #15
OT, indeed. Wilms Aug 2013 #39
Barry. one_voice Aug 2013 #53
Send an alert. Wilms Aug 2013 #56
This was the comment I was responding to... one_voice Aug 2013 #57
Oh. The cheer word. Wilms Aug 2013 #59
Barry. That's cute. one_voice Aug 2013 #32
Barry?... SidDithers Aug 2013 #52
Sid? Wilms Aug 2013 #55
Yeah, they're 'extremely disappointed' their power and influence is going down the toilet. reformist2 Aug 2013 #10
Well boo hoo quinnox Aug 2013 #11
tough shit. cali Aug 2013 #13
Schumer: By Granting Snowden Asylum, ‘Russia Has Stabbed Us In The Back’ Catherina Aug 2013 #14
We stabbed the entire civilized world in the back when we invaded Iraq without HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #21
Well tough shit GlashFordan Aug 2013 #17
McCain "It is a slap in the face of all Americans....time to fundamentally rethink our relationship" Catherina Aug 2013 #18
Not "all Americans," shithead. Only the 1% and its lackies and lickspittles (which HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #25
Declining empires are just so much fun to watch nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #19
One gets the feeling this is a "jump the shark" moment for the United States. reformist2 Aug 2013 #26
Not just that nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #29
Declining empires with thermonuclear arsenals . . . not so much. But I will HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #28
We saw that with the USSR nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #30
Wikileaks Statement on Snowden’s Successful Russian Asylum Bid Catherina Aug 2013 #23
"Disappointed" marions ghost Aug 2013 #33
McCain continues: 'Expand NATO, More HRW work, accelerate EU missile defence' Catherina Aug 2013 #36
The shadow government is shitting its pants right now. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #41
Lots of 'disappointment' the last few days at the WH. When was it... snappyturtle Aug 2013 #42
"hey! God-Emperor of Earth outranks mere government of Russia!" nt MisterP Aug 2013 #44
I'm 'extremely disappointed' with the Whitehoouse and it's aattck on the freedoms of Americans bowens43 Aug 2013 #49
+1 woo me with science Aug 2013 #58
"Putin knows how to play hardball, so should we," says house foreign affairs comm chair Ed Royce Catherina Aug 2013 #51
Next week’s talks between SoS John Kerry & Russian FM, Sergey Lavrov, also “up in the air” Catherina Aug 2013 #54

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
1. Nothing compared to America's disappointment with NSA domestic spying.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:15 PM
Aug 2013

Un-democratic, to say the least.

librechik

(30,678 posts)
2. what are they worried about? They can just rendition him. They do it all the time.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:15 PM
Aug 2013

if they aren't too scared.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. Yes, he might want to consider that as a next step. He's a better position than Assange to
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:14 PM
Aug 2013

as he will be free to leave and roam around the city if he wants. Britain being our partner in all of Bush's crimes, and more inclined to protect Genocidal Maniacs like Pinochet than Journalists who report actual facts, was a bad choice for Assange.

Whistle Blowers of the future are learning some valuable information from all of this. Even Assange still believed he would receive justice in Britain, big mistake.

The old Colonial Western nations it has become apparent, cannot act without permission from the US. They have become pathetic puppets of the US. That was apparent in their treatment of the President of Bolivia.

From an Embassy in Russia he can get to a plane if he wishes, that might be able to by-passy Europe and the US.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
8. To be precise, they don't thow Gay people in jail, the law is against advertising & activism
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:03 PM
Aug 2013

specifically as related to children, this shameful, regressive law covers colorful Pride parades and Outreach programs for teens but it does not put Gay people in prison.

Russia has a lot of catching up to do and the situation's not good. They're about 30 years behind us but we were behind for a shamefully long time too.

Homosexual acts between consenting males were legalized in 1993. Conservative assholes like Gennady Raikov tried to overturn that for years but they're about as popular as our assholes here. In 2009, their parliament rejected a first attempt to criminalize gay *propaganda*. This new law is a big step back but unfortunately it's supported by 88% of the population.

Here's the important part:

Under the new law, private individuals promoting "homosexual behaviour among minors" face fines of up to 5,000 roubles (£100; $155) while officials risk paying 10 times that amount. Businesses and schools could be fined up to 500,000 roubles.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22862210


Regressive, shameful especially since it affects Outreach Programs but it's not about locking up Gay people.

Imo, the best thing we could do is flood the place with LGBT right now, not abandon them.

THEY WILL GET THERE!

allin99

(894 posts)
9. they arrested people at the protest under the law...
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:06 PM
Aug 2013
http://news.yahoo.com/dozens-arrested-gay-pride-rally-russia-163326854.html

b/c they were being "out" and saying gays should have rights in public. It's not hard to find other ways to use that law against gays. wearing a pin, speaking out loud, publishing literature, affection in public. Almost anything done in public to indicate you are a homosexual can land you in prison.

they don't throw people in jail for *being* gay, but you basically have to hide it, and if you don't you are subject to charges under the law.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
20. The US isn't known to allow even worse laws against Gays to deter them from dealing with them.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:21 PM
Aug 2013

See Saudi Arabia, where the punishment is death, or Uganda eg. Why are we allied with such nations? Or Uzbekistan.

If laws against Gays were a deterrent to the US, we would cut off ties to half our allies. But then, we still have a long way to go here in the US. Progress has been made, but the hatred and bigotry still remains in considerably large portions of this society.

allin99

(894 posts)
27. that's true. but i remember the u.s. putting up quite a stink about uganda...
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:28 PM
Aug 2013

at least that's how i remember it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. Yes, but only because people here demanded it since we are funding that government. And
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:36 PM
Aug 2013

not much was done other than some 'stern lectures'.

US Religious Fundies are being financed from somewhere to work against Gays in Uganda. Not sure what can be done about that if the funding is private. I sure hope they are not receiving any tax exemptions for their 'work' in Uganda.

Been following this for a while and am not seeing anything about cutting off their tax exemption status eg, which was suggested a while ago.

allin99

(894 posts)
35. ah, i wondered why we were saying anything...
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:41 PM
Aug 2013

when we don't so much about other countries.

This may be a conversation for another thread, but i keep wondering about this...

why are so many countries in North Africa and the middle east still so barbaric? (aka, not just the treatment of gays, but the bizarre treatment of and rules for women..??? i can only think it must be the heat? i don't see anything else they have in common that they don't have in common with other countries.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
37. It isn't so long since this country was similarly barbaric towards minorities.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:50 PM
Aug 2013

See the treatment of African Americans still within the living memories of many Americans. And the treatment of Gays who are only beginning to get the same rights as all Americans.

It's hard to explain bigotry but imo, it has to be taught for the most part. There are eg, some very courageous activists for Gay rights in Uganda. They will be the ones who begin to reverse the process, and the input from the US Government has helped, for which we get credit.

However the US should looking for ways to cut of any kind of non-profit status for the US Fundie Christians who are having a huge impact on anti-Gay bigotry around the world. We should never view such activities as deserving of any kind of non-profit status. They are in violation of our Hate laws and as such should lose all privileges they claim as religions institutions.

allin99

(894 posts)
48. but also regarding women...
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:14 PM
Aug 2013

women are the same race as their male counterparts. things that are different are usually what sets people off, but women of people's same race are their own mothers and daughters. and while most countries have some wack-ass attitudes toward women, the treatment of women in the middle east and north africa are the worst, they are barbaric in a way others are not. (many places in india too).

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
38. I'm not arguing about that, just being precise on what the law states
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:51 PM
Aug 2013

I did state it was against activism.

I follow Russian Gay Rights pretty closely, due to personal friendships with some Gays who live there. It's a regressive law, don't get me wrong. Showing affection won't get you arrested. It might get you beaten up, depending on what hateful little shits see you, but we have our own bloody share of that too.

This is when the Russian LGBT community needs our support the most. I hope we give it to them honestly and with full force but when people like McCain are talking about ramping up HRW advocacy for Russian LGBT now, you know people like him aren't coming from an honest place and helping LGBT rights is the last thing on their mind.

allin99

(894 posts)
40. and if someone doesn't like the public...
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:56 PM
Aug 2013

affection and calls the police it can get them arrested under that law. Same way here when people are inconvenienced by a person sitting in the street and we arrest them for loitering, etc. they way guiliani arrested the homeless.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
50. It's totally primed for abuse. No argument there
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:39 PM
Aug 2013

I'm running to the veggie market right now. I'll be back in about an hour.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. But we have allies whose laws are even more ugly and more oppressive.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:24 PM
Aug 2013

I think we should cut off all countries with barbaric laws against Gays until they begin to show a willingness to end them.

Saudi Arabia would be a good place to start.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. Absolutely, but that doesn't and shouldn't prevent us from speaking the truth
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:25 PM
Aug 2013

about theses laws in Russia.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
31. My point is, why have we waited until they provided asylum to Snowden to do so?
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:32 PM
Aug 2013

Seems a bit hypocritical.

How about we start now demanding that no US Official go to Saudi Arabia, or Uganda until they revise their laws?

If people truly cared about the issue we would have seen this kind of 'outrage' long ago. Seems to me they are USING gays for political purposes.

Otherwise they would be devoting the same energy against all of our other 'allies', Iraq eg, what is the new puppet government's attitude towards gays? Or Karzai?

Maybe now is a good time, since the subject came up, to cut off Uganda (where Fundy Christians from the US are working to influence laws against Gays, and to whom we send financial aid?

Otherwise this is nothing but a political ploy by people who care nothing for the issue.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
43. The law was just passed. And who is "We"? I'm an individual and I don't take
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:03 PM
Aug 2013

my cues from anyone and certainly not from the gov't.

I've posted about everyfuckingthing you bring up. You sure haven't.

Don't lecture me on this. You don't have a leg to stand on and I despise that kind of shit from people who haven't said boo about the persecution of gay folks unless it's about the U.S.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
47. You have no fucking idea what about and where I have posted over the 12 years. So don't fucking
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:12 PM
Aug 2013

attack me because someone asks you a question.

And yes, this is a subject I have long been involved in, for personal reasons which are none of anyone's business. And torture and Haiti, and other issues I have written about long before I knew you.

I don't care if the 'law just passed'. The law is not the only evidence of bigotry against gays in Russia. But until now, not a word has been said in support of the Gay Rights movement over there on THIS forum that I recall. It certainly hasn't been a 'hot issue' until now.

Everyone can say the word 'fuck', they can even say it a dozen times, it doesn't have all that much effect being how overused it is. I prefer more creative insults myself.

Just make fucking sure you know what you're talking about before you use it for emphasis.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
46. Yeah, I know that case.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:10 PM
Aug 2013

He actually worked with 2 friends of mine. His problem was interviewing and filming minors who hadn't even broken the news to their parents yet. He's pushing for everyone to go to the Olympics and engage in more activist provocation, he's working on a 2014 International Gay Pride in Sochi. Just a few hours ago he's still begging other LGBT activists to go there and help "They are Russian LGBT organizations that advocate exerting pressure, or to just go and see what is possible" and trying to arrange a screening of his documentary during the Olympics.

For personal reasons I'll never get into at DU, I keep a close eye on the progress there.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
45. That's not what the Canadians are reporting--with disturbing images to accompany the text.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:07 PM
Aug 2013
http://o.canada.com/2013/08/01/sochi-2014-russia-will-enforce-anti-gay-laws-says-minister/

Sochi 2014: Russia will enforce anti-gay laws, says minister
Contradicts previous assurances from International Olympic Committee



MOSCOW — Russia will enforce a new law cracking down on gay rights activism when it hosts international athletes and fans during the 2014 Olympics in Sochi, the country’s sports minister said Thursday, appearing to contradict assurances to the contrary from the International Olympic Committee.

Russia’s contentious law was signed by President Vladimir Putin in late June, imposing fines on individuals accused of spreading “propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations” to minors, and even proposing penalties for those who express these views online or in the news media. Gay pride rallies also are banned.

“An athlete of nontraditional sexual orientation isn’t banned from coming to Sochi,” Vitaly Mutko said in an interview with R-Sport, the sports newswire of state news agency RIA Novosti. “But if he goes out into the streets and starts to propagandize, then of course he will be held accountable.”

Mutko emphasized that the law wasn’t designed to punish anyone for being gay or lesbian. But like the Russian lawmakers who authored the bill, Mutko said athletes would be punished only for propaganda, a word that remains ambiguous under the new law.

“The corresponding law doesn’t forbid non-traditional orientation, but other things: propaganda, involvement of minors and the youth.”

The law specifies punishment for foreign citizens, to include fines of up to 100,000 rubles ($3,000), time in prison for up to 15 days, deportation and denial of reentry into Russia. Four Dutch citizens working on a documentary film in the northern Russian town of Murmansk were the first foreigners to be detained under the new law, although their case did not make it to court, according to RIA Novosti.


Sounds to me like "propagandize" can be interpreted to mean "Make some Russian asshole think you are gay."
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
7. Tough choice.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:31 PM
Aug 2013

Cancel the meeting and it will keep the NSA in the news.

Well Barry, that's what you get for being elected in part as a repudiation of bush* and then continuing the odious policies of his* tenure.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
57. This was the comment I was responding to...
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 08:39 PM
Aug 2013
OT, indeed.

Like most of the cheerleading posts.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3387240

Pretty sure I responded to the lame point you tried to make. Not a tough choice.

Why would I alert? Is that what you do?
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
59. Oh. The cheer word.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 09:06 PM
Aug 2013

I now recall from years back the term isn't appreciated.

Is there an alternate? And no. I've never alerted a post.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
10. Yeah, they're 'extremely disappointed' their power and influence is going down the toilet.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:07 PM
Aug 2013

How embarrassing, that such a high-profile case likes this flees to Russia for asylum from the US, and gets it? Obviously one could make the case that Russia is a "bad" country, but most of the world doesn't see it that way.
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
11. Well boo hoo
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:09 PM
Aug 2013


Just because Putin has granted temporary asylum to Snowden, doesn't mean they are once again our mortal enemy. Jeez, the USA has been embarrassing itself over this whole Snowden affair. Maybe take a chill pill and calm down a bit!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
14. Schumer: By Granting Snowden Asylum, ‘Russia Has Stabbed Us In The Back’
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:15 PM
Aug 2013
Schumer: By Granting Snowden Asylum, ‘Russia Has Stabbed Us In The Back’

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY), the Senate Democrats' third-in-command, blasted Russia over its decision to grant NSA leaker Edward Snowden temporary asylum Thursday.

“Russia has stabbed us in the back, and each day that Mr. Snowden is allowed to roam free is another twist of the knife," he said in a statement. "Others who have practiced civil disobedience in the past have stood up and faced the charges because they strongly believed in what they were doing. Mr. Snowden is a coward who has chosen to run. Given Russia’s decision today, the President should recommend moving the G-20 summit.”

White House spokesman Jay Carney also expressed extreme disappointment with the country's decision to grant asylum, saying the U.S. was re-evaluating whether a summit between President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin will still take place in the fall.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/schumer-by-granting-snowden-asylum-russia-has-stabbed


Please stop embarrassing yourselves with this temper tantrum.
 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
21. We stabbed the entire civilized world in the back when we invaded Iraq without
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:23 PM
Aug 2013

a U.N. Security Council Resolution. I didn't hear any whining from Schumer back then.

Schumer needs to grow the fuck up, imho.

 

GlashFordan

(216 posts)
17. Well tough shit
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:19 PM
Aug 2013

And to all the people who said "Snowden has nowhere to go" and "Snowden is screwed"....

Suck it!!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
18. McCain "It is a slap in the face of all Americans....time to fundamentally rethink our relationship"
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:20 PM
Aug 2013
John McCain Is Furious About Edward Snowden

In a statement released Thursday morning, the senator called Russia's actions "a disgrace and a deliberate effort to embarrass the United States." He continued:

It is a slap in the face of all Americans. Now is the time to fundamentally rethink our relationship with [President Vladimir] Putin's Russia. We need to deal with the Russia that is, not the Russia we might wish for. We cannot allow today's action by Putin to stand without serious repercussions.

McCain is not alone in his anger. Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., tweeted earlier Thursday that the reset in U.S.-Russia relations is more like the "U.S. being run over." In a statement, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Robert Menendez, D-N.J., said that "Edward Snowden is a fugitive who belongs in a United States courtroom, not a free man deserving of asylum in Russia." The senator also calls the asylum decision a "setback to U.S.-Russia relations."

...

http://news.yahoo.com/john-mccain-furious-edward-snowden-121643229.html


Speak for yourself McCain. This is NOT a slap in my face, just yours and the pro-surveillance crowd.
 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
25. Not "all Americans," shithead. Only the 1% and its lackies and lickspittles (which
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:27 PM
Aug 2013

group includes McInsane).

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
26. One gets the feeling this is a "jump the shark" moment for the United States.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:27 PM
Aug 2013

Everyone probably felt like it jumped with Dubya, but I felt like with the election of Obama, the rest of the world gave us a second chance to redeem ourselves.

I think they've pretty much had all they can take, now.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
29. Not just that
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:31 PM
Aug 2013

This whole embrogglio has shown how much real influence we no longer have.

There used to be a time that the US said something and everybody pretty much got in line. The glory years are well over.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
28. Declining empires with thermonuclear arsenals . . . not so much. But I will
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:29 PM
Aug 2013

admit to a delicious feelign of schadenfreude today

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
23. Wikileaks Statement on Snowden’s Successful Russian Asylum Bid
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:25 PM
Aug 2013

Statement on Snowden’s Successful Russian Asylum Bid
1 August 2013, 16:00 UTC

Today, Thursday 1st August at 15:50 MSK, Edward Snowden was granted temporary asylum in Russia. He left Sheremetyevo airport in Moscow with WikiLeaks staffer and legal advisor Sarah Harrison who has accompanied him during his 39 day stay in the transit zone and continues to do so. Ms Harrison has remained with Mr Snowden at all times to protect his safety and security, including during his exit from Hong Kong. They departed from the airport together in a taxi and are headed to a secure, confidential place.

On 16th July Mr Snowden made a request for temporary asylum to Russia. Despite the ongoing pressure from the United States, which has been trying to interfere with this sovereign process in violation of the UN Protocol on the Rights of Refugees, Russia has done the right thing and granted Mr Snowden temporary asylum. The certificate of temporary asylum by the Russian Federation lasts for one year and affords Mr Snowden the right to live in and travel around Russia, where he can now plan his next steps in safety. On receiving his asylum certificate Mr Snowden said:

"Over the past eight weeks we have seen the Obama administration show no respect for international or domestic law, but in the end the law is winning. I thank the Russian Federation for granting me asylum in accordance with its laws and international obligations."

WikiLeaks, whilst being a publishing organisation, also fights for the rights and protections of journalistic sources, and so has taken a leading role in assisting Mr Snowden secure his safety. Mr Snowden, an American citizen, was forced to flee his country to enable him to safely reveal to the public the crimes of his government. President Barack Obama while elected on a platform promising to protect whistleblowers, has now prosecuted more national security whistleblowers than all other presidents in United States history combined. This bellicose response from the US administration makes it clear that Snowden could not receive a fair trial. Assange said "This is another victory in the fight against Obama’s war on whistleblowers. This battle has been won, but the war continues. The United States can no longer continue the surveillance of world citizens and its digital colonization of sovereign nations. The public will no longer stand for it. Whistleblowers will continue to appear until the government abides by its own laws and rhetoric."

WikiLeaks commends Russia for accepting Snowden’s request and supporting him when many countries felt so compromised by US threats that they could not. Throughout Snowden’s stay in the airport it has been heartening to see citizens of the United States, of Russia and the world supporting Mr Snowden. WikiLeaks would also like to extend their gratitude to the airport staff who have assisted in making the extended stay of Mr Snowden and Ms Harrison as comfortable and secure as possible, despite the difficult conditions.

Mr Snowden and Ms Harrison have been staying in the airport for almost six weeks, having landed on an Aeroflot flight from Hong Kong on the 23rd June. They had been booked on a connecting flight the following day. Mr Snowden intended to request asylum in Latin America. However, after Mr Snowden’s departure was made public, the United States government canceled his passport, which rendered onward travel impossible.

From within the transit zone of the airport, Mr Snowden and Ms Harrison spent a number of weeks prior to his Russian application assessing the options available to him to ensure his future safety. Without a passport and no immediate offers of the necessary safe passage, travel was impossible. Over twenty asylum requests to various countries were made to try to secure Mr Snowden’s passage. Throughout this period the United States took irregular and disproportionate actions to block Mr Snowden’s right to seek asylum: downing the plane of the President of Bolivia and making direct political and economic threats againt nations Mr Snowden requested assistance from. This is in violation of United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2312 (1967), which states that:

"the grant of asylum. . . is a peaceful and humanitarian act and... as such, it cannot be regarded as unfriendly by any other State."

Despite these actions, Venezuela, Bolivia and Nicaragua stood strong and granted Mr Snowden asylum. At a meeting with lawyers and human rights organisations on the 12th July, Mr Snowden announced that he accepted Venezuela’s asylum offer, although ultimately US interference has, at least for the time being, prevented its practical acceptance.

The Obama administration has demonstrated in its treatment of Bradley Manning, Thomas Drake, James Risen, James Rosen and others that the United States is no longer a safe place for whistleblowers and national security journalists. WikiLeaks urges that the US government amends its ways, reverse this trend and re-establish its moral authority. We will continue to defend Mr Snowden and urge the United States government to respect its constitution and international law.

http://wikileaks.org/Statement-on-Snowden-s-Successful.html

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
33. "Disappointed"
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:34 PM
Aug 2013

= they are furious.

And they don't really have a lot of the country behind them in these bullying efforts.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
36. McCain continues: 'Expand NATO, More HRW work, accelerate EU missile defence'
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:42 PM
Aug 2013
Kremlin foreign policy aide Yuri Ushakov immediately played down the impact of the decision to harbor Mr. Snowden. "This situation is too insignificant to affect political relations," he said. He added that the Russian government has received no indication from U.S. officials that the September summit between Messrs. Obama and Putin might be cancelled. He reiterated Mr. Putin's hope that the incident doesn't affect relations.

U.S. politicians saw the matter otherwise. U.S. Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.) called the move "a disgrace and a deliberate effort to embarrass the United States," adding, in a statement, that the U.S. should step up advocacy of human rights and civil liberties in Russia, accelerate European missile-defense programs and press for an expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, including membership for the Republic of Georgia. "Now is the time to fundamentally rethink our relationship with Putin's Russia," he said.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323681904578641610474568782.html


snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
42. Lots of 'disappointment' the last few days at the WH. When was it...
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:02 PM
Aug 2013

last week? WH announced it was 'concerned and disappointed' with the
release of the Yemeni reporter, Shaye?

Better to have left it at that with Snowden. imho...rather than stomping
feet and threatening meeting with Putin.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
51. "Putin knows how to play hardball, so should we," says house foreign affairs comm chair Ed Royce
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:47 PM
Aug 2013
lesley clark ?@lesleyclark 4m

"Putin knows how to play hardball, so should we," says house foreign affairs comm chair Ed Royce #Snowden

Royce calls Russia's #Snowden decision "absolutely unacceptable" says "will have a very negative impact on our relations"


Liza Sabater ?@blogdiva 40m

DAHELL RT @RosieGray: Harry Reid: “I think Snowden is a traitor, and Putin did a wrong thing. But I’m not going to be a Secretary of State"

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
54. Next week’s talks between SoS John Kerry & Russian FM, Sergey Lavrov, also “up in the air”
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 05:43 PM
Aug 2013
At the same time, Carney said that the US doesn’t want “Mr Snowden to become a problem” in US relations with Russia, which cover “important and broad” issues.

The spokesman stressed the US doesn’t view Edward Snowden as a whistleblower or dissident, reminding that the NSA former contractor is accused of leaking classified information in his home country.

Next week’s talks between US Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, were also “up in the air,” a US official told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

http://rt.com/usa/white-house-snowden-asylum-918/
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