Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Sovereign Citizen ‘President’ Sentenced To 18 Years In Federal Prison
Sovereign Citizen ‘President’ Sentenced To 18 Years In Federal Prison
The self-proclaimed "president" of the sovereign citizen group Republic for the united States of America (RuSA) was sentenced Wednesday to 18 years in federal prison following his conviction on fraud and tax charges.
James Timothy Turner, who goes by the name Tim Turner, was convicted in a federal jury in Alabama in March after court filings and evidence showed that he went around the country in 2008 and 2009, holding seminars on how to submit fraudulent bonds to the government as payment for federal taxes. Turner even once sent a $300 million bond in his own name to the Treasury Department.
He was convicted on conspiracy to defraud the United States, attempting to pay taxes with fictitious financial instruments, attempting to obstruct and impede the IRS, failing to file a 2009 federal income tax return and falsely testifying under oath in a bankruptcy proceeding, according to a Justice Department press release.
"This sentence should send a message that if you attempt to use retaliatory tax liens and fraudulent tax schemes as weapons against the United States and its citizens you will be punished," said acting U.S. Attorney Sandra J. Stewart for the Middle District of Alabama in the release. "We cannot and will not tolerate those who violate the law for financial gain. I would like to thank the law enforcement officers who worked vigilantly on this case to bring this criminal to justice."
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/sovereign-citizen-president-sentenced-to-18-years-in
The self-proclaimed "president" of the sovereign citizen group Republic for the united States of America (RuSA) was sentenced Wednesday to 18 years in federal prison following his conviction on fraud and tax charges.
James Timothy Turner, who goes by the name Tim Turner, was convicted in a federal jury in Alabama in March after court filings and evidence showed that he went around the country in 2008 and 2009, holding seminars on how to submit fraudulent bonds to the government as payment for federal taxes. Turner even once sent a $300 million bond in his own name to the Treasury Department.
He was convicted on conspiracy to defraud the United States, attempting to pay taxes with fictitious financial instruments, attempting to obstruct and impede the IRS, failing to file a 2009 federal income tax return and falsely testifying under oath in a bankruptcy proceeding, according to a Justice Department press release.
"This sentence should send a message that if you attempt to use retaliatory tax liens and fraudulent tax schemes as weapons against the United States and its citizens you will be punished," said acting U.S. Attorney Sandra J. Stewart for the Middle District of Alabama in the release. "We cannot and will not tolerate those who violate the law for financial gain. I would like to thank the law enforcement officers who worked vigilantly on this case to bring this criminal to justice."
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/sovereign-citizen-president-sentenced-to-18-years-in
49 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
= new reply since forum marked as read
make a comment about that in this this thread?
I responded multiple times about the paper terrorists you are so concerned about THAT ARE GETTING PROSECUTED!
The least you could do is respond to a simple question....
Jumble my ass....
would have given him plenty of time to run for POTUS in 2016!
Sounds like another grifter:
Republic of Texas (group)
The Republic of Texas is a general term for several organizations, some of which have been called militia groups,[1][2][3] that claim that the annexation of Texas by the United States was illegal and that Texas remains an independent nation to this day, but is under occupation. The issue of the legal status of Texas led the group to claim have reinstated a provisional government on December 13, 1995. Activists within the movement claim over 40,000 active supporters. There is, however, no widespread popular support for an independent Texas.[4]
The movement for independence was started by Richard Lance (Rick) McLaren. McLaren concluded that, in 1861, Texans voted four-to-one to leave the Union. According to McLaren, Texas met the qualifications, under international law, of a captive nation of war, since the end of the American Civil War in 1865.
The movement split into three factions in 1996, one led by McLaren, one by David Johnson and Jesse Enloe, and the third by Archie Lowe and Daniel Miller. In 1997, McLaren and his followers kidnapped Joe and Margaret Ann Rowe, held them hostage at the Fort Davis Resort, and demanded the release of a movement member in exchange for the release of the Rowes.[5] [6] McLaren's wife, Evelyn, convinced him to surrender peacefully after a week-long standoff with police and Texas Rangers. McLaren and four other Republic of Texas members were sent to prison.[7] This effectively destroyed the McLaren faction, and the Johnson-Enloe faction was discredited after two of its members, Jack Abbot Grebe Jr. and Johnie Wise, were convicted in 1998 of threatening to assassinate several government officials, including President Bill Clinton.[8]
In 2003, what remained of the movement consolidated into one dominant group recognizing an "interim" government (which replaced the "provisional" government), headed by Daniel Miller. This interim government claimed authority from the original proclamations of 1995 and set up a headquarters in the town of Overton. The movement split again over legal arguments, resulting in the current state of affairs. Most of the original personalities of the movement have disappeared from public view. The organization's finances have come from donations and the sale of some items such as a Republic of Texas Passport. The Republic of Texas headquarters in Overton, Texas burned down on August 31, 2005; one person was moderately injured.[9]
In January 2004, a man in jail in Aspen, Colorado claimed that the state of Colorado had no jurisdiction to extradite him to California on a probation warrant, on the grounds that he was a citizen of the Republic of Texas. He claimed that the sliver of land which contains Aspen was a part of the original Republic of Texas and, as such, he was not a citizen of the United States. His claim was rejected by the courts.[10]
In a case involving Richard McLaren and his wife Evelyn as plaintiffs, the United States District Court for the District of Columbia ruled, on April 30, 1998: "Despite plaintiffs' argument ..... in 1845, Texas became the 28th state of the United States of America. The Republic of Texas no longer exists."[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas_%28group%29
Their last stand at the resort was followed by media. They were not popular, as it was said they had bullied some people into taking their worthless currency. Their being well armed made them hard to reason with.
Allegedly, Texas Rangers did nothing under orders of GWB as the perps fled into the desert. The idea was that conditions would make them surrender or die on the run. From what I heard, no tears would have been shed if the latter had occured. It appears that speculation was in error, according to the Wikipedia entry.
Oh, yeah, the nuttiness has been brewing for a long, long time...
Sounds like another grifter:
Republic of Texas (group)
The Republic of Texas is a general term for several organizations, some of which have been called militia groups,[1][2][3] that claim that the annexation of Texas by the United States was illegal and that Texas remains an independent nation to this day, but is under occupation. The issue of the legal status of Texas led the group to claim have reinstated a provisional government on December 13, 1995. Activists within the movement claim over 40,000 active supporters. There is, however, no widespread popular support for an independent Texas.[4]
The movement for independence was started by Richard Lance (Rick) McLaren. McLaren concluded that, in 1861, Texans voted four-to-one to leave the Union. According to McLaren, Texas met the qualifications, under international law, of a captive nation of war, since the end of the American Civil War in 1865.
The movement split into three factions in 1996, one led by McLaren, one by David Johnson and Jesse Enloe, and the third by Archie Lowe and Daniel Miller. In 1997, McLaren and his followers kidnapped Joe and Margaret Ann Rowe, held them hostage at the Fort Davis Resort, and demanded the release of a movement member in exchange for the release of the Rowes.[5] [6] McLaren's wife, Evelyn, convinced him to surrender peacefully after a week-long standoff with police and Texas Rangers. McLaren and four other Republic of Texas members were sent to prison.[7] This effectively destroyed the McLaren faction, and the Johnson-Enloe faction was discredited after two of its members, Jack Abbot Grebe Jr. and Johnie Wise, were convicted in 1998 of threatening to assassinate several government officials, including President Bill Clinton.[8]
In 2003, what remained of the movement consolidated into one dominant group recognizing an "interim" government (which replaced the "provisional" government), headed by Daniel Miller. This interim government claimed authority from the original proclamations of 1995 and set up a headquarters in the town of Overton. The movement split again over legal arguments, resulting in the current state of affairs. Most of the original personalities of the movement have disappeared from public view. The organization's finances have come from donations and the sale of some items such as a Republic of Texas Passport. The Republic of Texas headquarters in Overton, Texas burned down on August 31, 2005; one person was moderately injured.[9]
In January 2004, a man in jail in Aspen, Colorado claimed that the state of Colorado had no jurisdiction to extradite him to California on a probation warrant, on the grounds that he was a citizen of the Republic of Texas. He claimed that the sliver of land which contains Aspen was a part of the original Republic of Texas and, as such, he was not a citizen of the United States. His claim was rejected by the courts.[10]
In a case involving Richard McLaren and his wife Evelyn as plaintiffs, the United States District Court for the District of Columbia ruled, on April 30, 1998: "Despite plaintiffs' argument ..... in 1845, Texas became the 28th state of the United States of America. The Republic of Texas no longer exists."[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas_%28group%29
Their last stand at the resort was followed by media. They were not popular, as it was said they had bullied some people into taking their worthless currency. Their being well armed made them hard to reason with.
Allegedly, Texas Rangers did nothing under orders of GWB as the perps fled into the desert. The idea was that conditions would make them surrender or die on the run. From what I heard, no tears would have been shed if the latter had occured. It appears that speculation was in error, according to the Wikipedia entry.
Oh, yeah, the nuttiness has been brewing for a long, long time...
