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WOW! NY Daily News unbelievably powerful front page following the Zimmerman verdict (Original Post) tpsbmam Jul 2013 OP
Thank you for this great cover...n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #1
How long will we repeat this lie? Courtesy Flush Jul 2013 #2
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #3
It is incredibly powerful, tpsbmann. I just saw it on another Cha Jul 2013 #4
I haven't seen it yet. LeftofObama Jul 2013 #5
Bio links... Tx4obama Jul 2013 #6
You are a DU Jewel for information, Tx4obama ReRe Jul 2013 #8
+ 1000 ...Thanks Tx4obama. red dog 1 Jul 2013 #10
What an awesome addition to this thread. Thanks, Tx3obama! nt tpsbmam Jul 2013 #21
Thank You!!! BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2013 #23
K&R Paka Jul 2013 #7
Let it go..... BlueJac Jul 2013 #9
did you post something ? olddots Jul 2013 #13
You do have a point there... DRoseDARs Jul 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #29
There was plenty of outrage after OJ's acquittal. Chemisse Jul 2013 #33
Talk about false equivalencies! tpsbmam Jul 2013 #36
You think there was no outrage after those acquittals? Did you just not pay attention? nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #54
K&R Thanks for posting. red dog 1 Jul 2013 #11
America was a country for almost 100 years before slavery ended. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #12
Thanks, Mountain Grammy... tex-wyo-dem Jul 2013 #30
I hope you're correct, mountain grammy. This just makes me feel so sad. calimary Jul 2013 #38
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jul 2013 #14
Thank you for posting this. tallahasseedem Jul 2013 #15
Yeah, me too. No kidding, tallahasseedam. calimary Jul 2013 #39
thank you sad-cafe Jul 2013 #16
. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #17
This is FAR from over. bvar22 Jul 2013 #18
correct - the racists have outed themselves BIG TIME with this travesty Skittles Jul 2013 #20
I just ignored them all Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #56
wow Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #19
Excellent gopiscrap Jul 2013 #22
I been hard time dealing with this and trying to put in perpsective what this means this helps trublu992 Jul 2013 #25
K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #26
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2013 #27
K&R napkinz Jul 2013 #28
It was, but it's worth a second and a third look tavalon Jul 2013 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Tugboat Jul 2013 #32
Thank you for sharing this. Delphinus Jul 2013 #34
shocked that a Murdoch vehicle would get this smartalek Jul 2013 #35
Murdoch doesn't own the NY Daily News, he owns the NY Post. tpsbmam Jul 2013 #37
I once sold subscriptions to the Daily News FloridaJudy Jul 2013 #41
Daily News is NOT Murdreck owned DainBramaged Jul 2013 #44
I had thought the Daily News was a Republican publication NewJeffCT Jul 2013 #40
You thought wrong DainBramaged Jul 2013 #45
What did I think wrong? NewJeffCT Jul 2013 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author NewJeffCT Jul 2013 #48
I've been a Daily News reader for many years ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2013 #50
Emmett till?? Willie Edwards??? happyslug Jul 2013 #42
Really? DainBramaged Jul 2013 #43
I have empathy, but why not bring up the Holocaust, or My Lai? happyslug Jul 2013 #47
Have a very empathy free life DainBramaged Jul 2013 #52
The point is that black lives have never been all that highly valued in this country. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #55
Not really, your waste of time was just that. Rex Jul 2013 #46
way NOT to get the point: the point is that they were African-American noiretextatique Jul 2013 #53
You rarely see Chaney mentioned without his companions RZM Jul 2013 #51

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
2. How long will we repeat this lie?
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:01 PM
Jul 2013

The Verdict did not shock America. We're disgusted, but no longer shocked. It's what we've come to expect.

Cha

(297,176 posts)
4. It is incredibly powerful, tpsbmann. I just saw it on another
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:18 PM
Jul 2013

site. thank you for posting it here.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
8. You are a DU Jewel for information, Tx4obama
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:44 PM
Jul 2013

Thank you SO MUCH for looking those up for us dummies & lazy butts. Big hug to you...

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
9. Let it go.....
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jul 2013

OJ, Casey Anthony........where is the outrage. A baby in a trash bag and no outrage, come on.

Response to BlueJac (Reply #9)

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
33. There was plenty of outrage after OJ's acquittal.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:48 AM
Jul 2013

What is your point exactly? That we should just take racism in stride because one prominent black guy got off? Or because white women sometimes kill their babies?

tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
36. Talk about false equivalencies!
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:48 AM
Jul 2013

The legally okayed murder of Trayvon Martin has zero equivalency to the cases you listed. Nada. I'm sorry you can't see the difference between all of these and why there is such countrywide outrage over the verdict. That's just sad.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
12. America was a country for almost 100 years before slavery ended.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:19 PM
Jul 2013

It took another 100 years of apartheid before Civil Rights became the law of the land. Now we are 50 years from that legislation and the powers against progress are trying to turn back the clock; they will fail.
We will fulfill the promise of full equality within the next 50 years. I won't be here to see it, but I know it will happen because we've come to far to turn back.

The Martin case is a step backward, but it's opened many eyes, as each one of these cases do. Even the most diehard self defense nut knows this was anything but. It was legal murder and we cannot and should not forget that fact. None of these victims can be forgotten.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
30. Thanks, Mountain Grammy...
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:46 PM
Jul 2013

You raise an important point...I was taught that there is always a reason why things happen, and the reason for this horrible verdict may be to raise awareness ...of continuing racism in this country, of the unjust law that lead this tragedy and to mobilize people to correct these horrible truths.

Trayvon did not die in vain.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
38. I hope you're correct, mountain grammy. This just makes me feel so sad.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jul 2013

I keep thinking how I felt the night Barack Obama was first elected. I was exultant! What it symbolized to me was that it seemed like proof that America HAD turned a page, at long last. That we had finally worked through the worst of the racism that blights our history. That we'd grown up a little bit as a nation.

Wrong again.

Just makes me so sad. But it also strengthens my resolve - that we will NOT turn the clock back, and if such is attempted, we will NOT let that effort stand. I probably won't be here to see it, either, but I hope your words ring true. For the sake of our country, we all should work toward that, tirelessly and relentlessly. And let this tragedy fire us up, anew.

Because Trayvon Martin, and that of the other victims listed on that cover, must not be allowed to have died in vain.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
39. Yeah, me too. No kidding, tallahasseedam.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jul 2013

I'm still in shock about this as well. Shock and total dismay.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
18. This is FAR from over.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jul 2013

I will NOT rest.
The Attorney General NEEDS to get involved TOMORROW.

And where ARE the Zimmerman Apologists.
I'm not NEAR through with them.

trublu992

(489 posts)
25. I been hard time dealing with this and trying to put in perpsective what this means this helps
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:16 PM
Jul 2013

sooooooooo much gives me some hope

Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

smartalek

(21 posts)
35. shocked that a Murdoch vehicle would get this
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:47 AM
Jul 2013

I wonder if whoever signed off on this will have a job tomorrow?
I wonder how many subscribers will cancel because of it?
God, do I love New York!
Thanks for posting it here -- I had not seen it elsewhere, nor heard of it.

tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
37. Murdoch doesn't own the NY Daily News, he owns the NY Post.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:50 AM
Jul 2013

I sincerely doubt that cover would ever show up on a Murdoch owned paper. Welcome to DU, smartalek!

FloridaJudy

(9,465 posts)
41. I once sold subscriptions to the Daily News
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jul 2013

During a really bad patch in my life. It's a relatively decent rag. Before I sold anything owned by Murdoch, I would have found a more ethical job - like selling dope to schoolchildren.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
40. I had thought the Daily News was a Republican publication
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jul 2013

more moderate than the far right NY Post, but still Republican. Has that changed in recent years?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
49. What did I think wrong?
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:06 PM
Jul 2013

that it's a Republican publication, though less conservative than the Post, or that it's changed in recent years?

Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #40)

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
50. I've been a Daily News reader for many years
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:36 PM
Jul 2013

I don't know why people draw this conclusion it a Republican paper. Aside from an occasional op-ed by any number of national hacks like Rich Lowery or Cal Thomas, it's own editorials lean left and slam Republicans pretty good. Mike Lupica, being a prime example. The letters and comments are also mostly Dem leaning. It's still a tabloid, and it's still going to have fun slamming any pols pecadillos like Weiner and Spitzer, but it is fair about it and will slam Republicans which that rag the Post never does.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
42. Emmett till?? Willie Edwards???
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jul 2013

Emmett Till was killed in 1955:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till

Willie Edwards (1957)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Edwards

James Chaney (1964)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Chaney

All of the above are clearly victims during the Civil Rights fights of the 1950s and 1960s, all appear to be victims of the KKK or related groups, no such contact is a factor with Trayvon Martin

Michael Donald (1981) was a victim of the KKK, but after the Civil War Movement had won most of its victories and had lost support from Local Southern Governmental units. James Byrd, like Michael Donald was an attack on an African American by a group of whites (in both the cases of Byrd and Donald it was a group of three). In the case of Byrd all three attackers were convicted of murder. In the case of Michael Donald two of the three attackers were convicted, the third died before trial. Notice neither killing involved am acquittal such as Zimmerman won,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Donald

Hawkins and Griffith was New York City Cases involving whites attacking an African Americans by groups of white youths. A factor that was NOT part of the Case of Trayvon Martin.

Yusef Hawkins (1989)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Yusef_Hawkins

Michael Griffith (1986)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Beach_racial_incident_(1986)


Thus none of these cited cases relate to what happen to Trayvon Martin beside that all of the victims were African Americans. Sorry, you need more then that to make a valid comparison.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
47. I have empathy, but why not bring up the Holocaust, or My Lai?
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:00 PM
Jul 2013

Both have as much to do with the Trayvon case as did the cases cited. Both involved the killing of what we Americans considers "Minorities" and none have anything to do with what is behind the killing of Trayvon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

I am trying to put this case in prospective, and one way NOT to do this is to bring in cases NOT ON POINT. The cases cites were all white on black murders, but under different circumstances as apart from each other as My Lai and the Holocaust. Do we go after Racists? Go after the KKK? the Nazis" Lieutenant Calley? Stronger Gun Control law would have affected Trayvon's killing, but not the Holocaust, or My Lai (And the killings of the three cited Civil Rights victims, gun control would not have affected for the Murders had connections with the Police, and in the case of the two NYC killings, the Murders did not use any guns).

Adoption of a "Retreat to the Wall" doctrine may have prevented Trayvon's killing for his killer would be guilty of murder simply because he did not retreat. In the cited cases, all of the victims were clearly murder even if the State had a retreat to the wall doctrine, so again not a good comparison.

Sorry, all of these names, except for being African Americans and murder victims, have nothing in common with Trayvon and his death. That is the point I was trying to make, these are bad comparisons to the situation with Trayvon.

DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
52. Have a very empathy free life
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jul 2013

It's so obvious It's sad you think that way, I didn't expect it from you.


So sad

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
55. The point is that black lives have never been all that highly valued in this country.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:01 PM
Jul 2013

And unless that changes, one can expect similar incidents to keep happening.

P.S. Martin's death may not have been at the hands of a racist organization, but it was certainly at the hands of a racist. So ultimately, what's the big difference?

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
53. way NOT to get the point: the point is that they were African-American
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jul 2013

the point is about black male murder victims. the point is: there have been many of them. another point: a lot of them don't get justice, just like Trayvon Martin.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
51. You rarely see Chaney mentioned without his companions
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jul 2013

Schwerner and Goodman, who were killed in the same incident.

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