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Time to regift that Peace Prize, imo. If you win it for being NOTGEORGEBUSH, and then you continue much of his work/legacy, you should send that NPP back.
Also, flame the hell away. I'm on the final countdown for paying attention to national politics (a lifelong hobby/habit/obsession) anyway.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)be on election night 2008.
Or in other words if I had a crystal ball to see into the future back then I would not have been so happy.
I surely am no Obama hater but my guess is history will not record his 8 years as those of a great President.
I understand what he is up against but that doesn't change how history will be written.
I'm not looking forward to any good things coming from this administration in the next 3 years.
I stopped contributing to the DNC yesterday.
Demit
(11,238 posts)I paid attention because I thought there was always a counterpoint, a balance, to the nefarious ones, and I thought things would eventually right themselves. Probably not going to happen. Not in my lifetime.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)The only thing being tortured is Glenn Greenwald's imagination.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)This is just perpetuating the standard loony libertarian Obama hate on DU. You know full well that it's the GOP House that's blocking Gitmo from being closed.
QUIT WITH THE FUCKING LIES!!!!!!
Thank you for knocking the narrative back onto the reality track ... on edit I'd like to mention that some Democrats joined the GOP in legislation making it impossible to close Guantanamo. WTF is that all about?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)eaglesclaw
(15 posts)"Obama sought not to close Guantánamo but simply to re-locate it to Illinois" Greenwald
And who refused to allow the prison in Illinois?? Oh, republicans!!! Well how is that Obama's fault?
baldguy
(36,649 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)imo it's fucked up
baldguy
(36,649 posts)and lay all the blame for everything wrong with the world at Obama's feet. Especially stuff which was created by Republicans, and the corrections for which are also being blocked by Republicans.
FUCKED UP!
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)But he had a MANDATE and he's not pushing. He's been playing this bipartisan bullshit EXCEPT when he's campaigning. FACT.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)That's your OP.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Do you have any clue what you're talking about?
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)way to change the subject
try to say something factual and substantive next time.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)As if our image in the Muslim world isn't bad enough? You'd want to have a few more detainees - INNOCENT DETAINEES - die in our prison?
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Please don't be disingenuous.
The stories out of Gitmo on the treatment of the prisoners is appalling.
Peace, Mojo
eaglesclaw
(15 posts)Surely anyone trying to commit suicide is not in their right mind, and must be fed to keep them alive. That is not torture.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)now that you've weighed in with this subtle, nuanced, well-thought-out argument, my mind is changed!
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Blaming Obama borders of freeperish.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)All he has to do is say the word and the prisoner's living conditions would be improved. I am not talking about force feeding either. There are a multitude of stories that have
come out about the inhumane treatment of the prisoners. Your statement makes no sense at all.
if you feign surprise that there is corruption in government - ANY government - you are likely shocked to discover peanut butter contains peanuts.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Do you believe Obama is directing the Black Helicopters & alien abductions too?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)You were the one that said all of that. I just stated that corruption is a problem in any government. Helicopters, aliens and Alex Jones was all you.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Perhaps you should read the OP.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)knee-jerk reactions of shouting "Aliens, Helicopters and Alex Jones". Good lord. Hyperbole overload.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)And the war, for that matter. The echo chamber in Washington is embarrassing. Sweeping bipartisanship on the issues you brought up, dead silence on the issues we need dealt with. Facts replaced by appeals to our fears or our naivety.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)You chose an odd week to whine and put on the purity pout pose.
P.S. The complaining about the Nobel is so 2010
Aerows
(39,961 posts)instead of resting on one's laurels. My apologies if I fail the rah-rah committee test and while I was delighted by the fall of section 3 of DOMA, I also recognize that we must keep pressing the agenda to the left, not merely sighing in delight that it didn't veer to the right again.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Obama presidency the biggest disappointment and failure evah.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)The fight doesn't end here, it only gets stronger: https://my.barackobama.com/page/signup/love-is-love
OFA will be taking this fight to the states. Join instand up for marriage equality.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)someone should do a civics course 'round here.
gcomeau
(5,764 posts)...your countdown to stop paying attention expired some time ago and you failed to notice.
Probably because you weren't paying attention.
I have been a huge contributor (of content - not $!) to DU and mark my words well: this will go downin history as the Bait and Switch presidency
emulatorloo
(44,257 posts)I do hope Freeperville can hang onto its edge though.
Been around here a long time too, DU did not used to be such a bubble.
LuvNewcastle
(16,862 posts)That says it all.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize partly for his efforts on nuclear disarmament/non-proliferation (some of which he did while he was still a U.S. Senator)
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.
Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.
Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.
For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."
Oslo, October 9, 2009
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/...
Also, President Obama DONATED all of the prize money to various charities.
Obama Announces Charities Where He'll Donate Nobel Peace Prize Money
The White House announced the 10 charities where President Obama will donate the winnings from his Nobel Peace Prize. Among them is the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund to help with recovery from the massive earthquake earlier this year.
"These organizations do extraordinary work in the United States and abroad helping students, veterans and countless others in need. I'm proud to support their work." Obama said in a statement.
$250,000 to Fisher House
Fisher House is a national non-profit organization that provides housing for families of patients receiving medical care at major military and VA medical centers.
$200,000 to the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund
In the wake of the devastating earthquake in Haiti, President Obama asked former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton to create the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund to raise funds for long-term relief efforts in Haiti.
$125,000 to College Summit
College Summit is a national non-profit organization that partners with elementary and middle schools and school districts to strengthen college-going culture and increase college enrollment rates, so that all students graduate from high school career and college-ready.
$125,000 to the Posse Foundation
The Posse Foundation is a national non-profit organization that identifies public high school students with extraordinary academic and leadership potential who may be overlooked by traditional college selection processes. Posse's college and university partners award Posse Scholars four-year, full-tuition leadership scholarships. The scholars graduate at a rate of 90 percent.
$125,000 to the United Negro College Fund
The United Negro College Fund plays a critical role in enabling more than 60,000 students each year to attend college through scholarship and internship programs.
$125,000 to the Hispanic Scholarship Fund
The Hispanic Scholarship Fund (HSF) is the nation's leading Hispanic scholarship organization, providing the Hispanic community more college scholarships and educational outreach support than any other organization in the country. In its 34 year history, the Hispanic Scholarship Fund has awarded close to $280M in scholarships to more than 90,000 students in need.
$125,000 to the Appalachian Leadership and Education Foundation
A non-profit organization funded by foundations and companies, ALEF supports and enables young men and women from Appalachia to pursue higher education though scholarship and leadership curriculum.
$125,000 to the American Indian College Fund
The American Indian College Fund transforms Indian higher education by funding and creating awareness of the unique, community-based accredited Tribal Colleges and Universities, offering students access to knowledge, skills, and cultural values which enhance their communities and the country as a whole. The Fund disburses approximately 6,000 scholarships annually for American Indian students seeking to better their lives through higher education. The Fund also provides support for tribal college needs, ranging from capital support to cultural preservation curricula.
$100,000 to AfriCare
AfriCare was founded in 1970 and has more projects in Africa than any other U.S. based charity, reaching communities in 25 countries, primarily in Sub-Saharan Africa. Its programs address needs in three principal areas: health and HIV/AIDS; food security and agriculture; and water resource development.
$100,000 to the Central Asia Institute
The Central Asia Institute promotes and supports community-based education and literacy, especially for girls, in remote regions of Pakistan and Afghanistan. The Institute's co-founder, Greg Mortenson, was also a Nobel Peace Prize nominee this year, whose book, Three Cups of Tea: One Man's Mission to Promote Peace, One School at a Time, recounts his attempt to successfully establish dozens of schools and promote girls' education in rural Afghanistan and Pakistan.
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/obama-announces-charities-where-hell-donate-nobel-peace-prize-money.php?ref=fpa
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)"Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics"
I suspect that's changed since the spying leak/s.
great white snark
(2,646 posts)Just moving goalpoats. Not surprised.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Got anything to actually contribute?
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)Who knew that was one of the categories for consideration?
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Oh, it was a lot of fun, don't get me wrong...
Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)The reasons for Obama being chosen as a recipient are readily available.
Try Google (it can actually BE your friend, if you care to educate yourself). And being NOTGEORGEBUSH was not a category.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Gobama!!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,246 posts)be noticed. What a blow to the body politick!
MirrorAshes
(1,262 posts)What reality are you living in?
sibelian
(7,804 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)I need you. Go take a break. It will help you refuel. We all need to. I need to too.