General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDeath Valley 127 Degrees, Phoenix 118 Degrees, Temps In 110's, Alaska In The 90's.
Nothing unusual here. Global warming is a hoax cooked up by scientists. When will denial stop? When it is over 135?
bike man
(620 posts)malaise
(269,237 posts)The size of these storms alone should wake up people.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)And with that, more tornadoes.
I'm not looking forward to this hurricane season. I think I'll make a note to myself to see about making one of those emergency kits. I've never done it in the past other than freeze dozens of water bottles in the lead up to one.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)them money.
malaise
(269,237 posts)Losing their beach front properties and their fancy yachts would be way more painful to them than death.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)when my dad was still alive, I flew to Tucson to see him in August. I don't know why anybody would want to live in the desert. Whewww was it ever hot out there!!
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)lol not really.
did you see the temp at Camp Mabry on Tuesday? 105.
ick.
It's going to be a long hot summer and not a drop of rain. As the song goes.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I remember spending a few days in Houston in the summer, it was much more humid than where I live in SW Ala.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)Feels like it sometimes though, and I have seen readings of 117 on the car thermometer after it's been parked on unshaded asphalt
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Climate change is just a figment of Al Gore's imagination!
subterranean
(3,427 posts)One heat wave is not evidence of global warming any more than a cold snap is evidence against it.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)malaise
(269,237 posts)Those who won't hear will feel.
subterranean
(3,427 posts)Nine of the 10 hottest years on record, globally, have occurred in the last 11 years. It's pretty clear that the world is getting warmer. What I meant was that single, regionally isolated weather events can't be used to prove or disprove global climate change. It's the accumulation of events and climate trends, as shown in the graph you posted, that provide the strongest evidence, not a heat wave in June.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)paying the slightest attention over the past few decades........
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)These heat waves are more intense, and more frequent. As dixiegrrrrl pointed out, almost all of the past ten years have had record-breaking high and average temperatures.
Also, one effect of climate change is weather-weirding or weather-whiplash, which means more extreme weather events such as heat waves, storms, even blizzards. More heat energy in the atmosphere means that more of that heat energy will be turned into kinetic energy, aka wind, thus the weather gets more violent and unpredictable.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)Examples like the chart here are valid arguments for climate change, one day of 118 in Phoenix isn't. People confuse weather with climate all the time and it should be avoided, the right uses this argument every time the temperature drops a little somewhere or a flake of snow falls in, say, Arizona. This spring, for example, was cooler than normal in the eastern US due to a stubborn Greenland blocking pattern that set up but that doesn't discredit the theory of AGW
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)They are very closely and inextricably linked.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)and unable for humans to breathe? I would think we are getting very close?
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)The article talks about "wet-bulb" temperature - the temperature read from a thermometer covered with wet cotton - when that temperature exceeds 95 degrees, people start dropping like flies.
So the answer is about 95 degrees, but also with extremely high humidity. In other words, when it's not only hot, but so humid that when you sweat, it doesn't evaporate, you can't cool down, so you keel over.
And yes, if global climate change gets really bad, there will be large areas around the globe that will start experiencing this lethal combination of temperature and humidity, which will render them uninhabitable.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and people cannot cool down at night, esp. in cities which have asphalt/concrete heat sinks.
That really adds to the death rate.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)which I was told was the oldest inhabited city in the world - it was also the hottest place I had ever been (around 120F) and I went to Arizona State.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)keep up anymore, and if we had a power failure at that point my cats and I would die.
Javaman
(62,534 posts)but that was in late August.
nope, no climate change here. move along citizen.
JCMach1
(27,582 posts)try that with 50-90% humidity...
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)It was talking about wet-bulb temperatures - the equivalent temperature felt by a person soaked in liquid standing in a stiff breeze, or a thermometer wrapped in wet cotton.
There have been times in Saudi Arabia, right next door in the UAE, when the wet-bulb temperatures have topped 95 degrees - super-hot and super-humid winds blowing hot moisture in from the Persian Gulf.
Absolutely miserable, and potentially lethal.
JCMach1
(27,582 posts)Insanely hot...
virgogal
(10,178 posts)AndyA
(16,993 posts)It's not global warming--it's Obama's weather machine in the Oval Office. It's in his desk drawer. With it, he controls the weather all around the globe!!11! I'm serios!!1! Glenn Beck knows all about it...
AFJROTCcadetEcho
(17 posts)AL Gore was right!
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)So glad I moved here.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)102, 108, 109, 109, 109 and 108 for the next 6 days. And I have to work in that. Well, at least until Saturday where it will be 73 degrees. I'll be working Sunday in the 108 degree-heat. Arggghhh!!!1
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Much colder in the winter and much warmer (and drier) during the summer. Monsoon season usually start about now and we haven't had much rain. Last year you could barely tell it was Monsoon season. We had one good size storm that went straight up between China and Korea and hit close to Seoul last year, though it actually ironically went on shore in North Korea. The first year I was here in Seoul it rained so hard I thought I was going to have to buy a raft. That was only 7 years ago. Very scary....
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)for most days in June above 70 degrees.