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Following the Supreme Court's ruling deeming the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional, several Republicans expressed their disappointment with the decision and vowed to take action. Apparently, this means an amendment to the Constitution.
"This Court has taken it upon itself the radical attempt to redefine marriage," Huelskamp said, standing outside the Supreme Court. "I think what gets lost in this judicial attempt to short-circuit the democratic process is the needs of our children . Every child deserves a mommy and a daddy and with this decision they undercut the needs of our children."
http://news.yahoo.com/house-gop-pushes-constitutional-amendment-banning-same-sex-202018408.html
Its my personal belief that when politicians start saying we need to pass something "to protect the children," it usually means they are desperate and are about to pass something the violates your rights.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)What a joke.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Don't you ever read nothing on the internet!??!
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Their bloomers in a bunch they throw our some bulls hit vote to repeal "Obamacare"...I have a feeling this is just bluster in an attempt to keep them in line. Red meat, you know.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Fucking idiots. Goodluck with that you fools.
Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)We are really two separate people living on the same land mass.
.Seriously, more and more it seems like the old pre-Civil war era..
Our values are so different we cant even talk with each other..Back then some believed in equality and others believed in the master slave relationship..
More and more our fundamental values today are in conflict and I wonder how it will all end..
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)No, I am not looking forwards to it. 20 M dead and 100 m refugees is no joke. (That's an estimate of current population and modern civil wars and casualties).
LibAsHell
(180 posts)Everyone. Succeeding generations of conservatives will abandon their "traditional values" over time. American society will become more secular and more progressive.
Time is all that's needed. A lot of it.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)It's always been this way and the RW regressives will always fight kicking and screaming into the future, but will eventuality accept it. They absolutely hate change...they fear it. But just as it's unthinkable now that barely 50 years ago a black person in the south couldn't use the same toilet or drinking fountain as a white person, so will restricting gay marriage be viewed a few years from now.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)At least in many ways. We at least respected knowledge & science.
The rise of insane fundamentalism twisted this culture beyond recognition.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)which allowed them to buy up all the media and fill the airwaves with the likes of Rush Limpballs, spewing forth hate and disinformation. It's been a steady attack since the 70's, and it's a whole different world than when I grew up.
savalez
(3,517 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)really going on at street level.
love_katz
(2,585 posts)Insane fundamentalism = double speak: night is day, up is down, love is hate, ad nauseum.
And every time we try to have a reasonable discussion on any issue, they twist and spin it as fast as they can.
Too bad we can't hook us some generators to them...we could provide enough energy to power huge cities.
cali
(114,904 posts)it's nothing like the pre-civil war era.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Repealing the ACA, get the same results and does it again. Now for the Goofy Old Party.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)and with a GOP Senate and a totally cowed Dem House.
BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)Never going to happen.
Mr. David
(535 posts)And those same 13 is the 1/3 that will *block* any anti-gay amendments plus a few more.
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)It would never be ratified.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)They know it has no chance; they are pissing down the legs of their constituents and telling them it's raining.
karynnj
(59,508 posts)However, I think the DOMA decision is the turning point. No one can argue that civil unions are almost as good. I assume many CU states become marriage equality states.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)and 74% is less than that
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)is for a state that has stained it's constitution with homophobia to reverse that. I know, it was done in Maine, but the legislature and governor had already approved marriage equality, we need this to happen in a state where that didn't occur. Oregon would be my guess to be the state that throws off the shackles.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)nt
William769
(55,148 posts)Support is over 50% for marriage equality in the U.S. You all have to remember it's not just the red States that will be ratifying the amendment.
With that said you all can go take a long walk off a short pier in the everglades.
pnwmom
(109,021 posts)for an Amendment, and if it had passed Congress, it probably could have gotten approval in 3/4 of the states pretty easily. So progressives in Congress supported DOMA to head off a worse possibility -- an amendment that would be much harder to ever overturn.
Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)It was rationalized as being needed to head off an amendment, rather than actually being needed. In the same way that removing trans* people from ENDA was rationalized as necessary to pass an act that *still* has not passed - despite throwing trans* people under the bus because it was necessary.
Today is a day to celebrate - not to make the LGBT members of DU relive being under the bus in the largest single disappointment during the presidency of Bill Clinton by continuing to rationalize that being under the bus was necessary for our own well being.
pnwmom
(109,021 posts)But opinions will always differ.
In the same year that DOMA was passed, Hawaiis Supreme Court decided to allow same-sex marriage based on equal protection of the laws and then Hawaiian voters in 1998 passed a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. (Thirty other states have similar constitutional bans.) The mood of the country was very different in that era.
Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)I know what the mood was like then. I heard the rationalizations then - including from our then current president.
And I really don't need to hear, today, that the vile law that was shoved down our throats by a president in my own party - only a portion of which has been declared unconstitutional - was passed for my own protection. Particularly since the portion of the law which prevents my marriage from being recognized still exists. That is like telling blacks on the day that Brown v. the Board of Education was decided that your prior support for separate but (not) equal was for their own protection, because if you hadn't gone along separate something much worse would have happened.
It isn't ever really necessary to repeat those rationalizations (regardless of whether you believed them) and today is a particularly insensitive day to drag them out again.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)DOMA was passed because it COULD be. Democrats were pleased as punch to dance on the grave of GBLT equality at that point. It wasn't passed to head off a constitutional amendment, it was passed out of PURE HUBRIS on the part of heterosexual supremacists. (including Senator Paul Wellstone).
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The same party of we have too much regulation, oh and the wide stand but that's okay.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,124 posts)But - it's way too late for that. Even if they get it through Congress, by the time it reaches the states which must ratify it, same gender marriage will be a non-issue.
And, I'll be sure to pass his concern on to my daughter who has denied the right to a legal relationship with both of her parents for the last 15 years expressly because her parents' marriage is not recognized in Ohio.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I think many here don't realize what these RW assholes are prepared to do to this country if they ever get complete control again.
wandy
(3,539 posts)Keep those eyes on the prize.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)How the fuck do they plan to do that? Even if they got same sex marriage legislated as unconstitutional, if that's the reason they did it then it stands to reason that they also need to put in place some legislated method of providing children with mommies and daddies. So are they planning on forced marriages and adoptions??? Idiotic bigots.
First of all, Obama isn't going to sign any anti-same sex marriage legislation. Not to mention the fact that Prop 8 got voted down for the reason that the state didn't want to defend it. Do they think Obama, after suffering temporary insanity and signing said legislation, would then have his admin defend it all the way to SCOTUS?
AverageMe
(91 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)since it's passing is nearly a political impossibility.
You would need 38 states to ratify it and Same Sex Marriage is already legal in 13 states.
This looks like one more way that the Conservative Crooks can con people into giving them money.
premium
(3,731 posts)We have far worse problems in this country and this is what they come up with?
Don't these idiots realize what it takes to get an amendment to the Constitution?
OTOH, this may be a good thing for us, maybe America will finally see just how radical the GOP has become and vote these assclowns out of office.
One can only hope.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)That, and they're freakin' dumb-asses.
premium
(3,731 posts)Sad thing is, it'll work.
I live in a very red town in Nevada and even our most ardent repub. are getting disgusted with the GOP. Alot of people I know and talk to are seriously thinking of changing their party affiliation to Independent.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Cause all they are doing is losing more and more votes and making themselves look like idiots to more and more people.
They could change things in their party, but they won't because they are bigots - and the hispanics they are catering to won't fall for it, the fundies are getting to be less and less in this country, and the more crap like this they spout the more irrelevant they will become and the more true progress we will have.
Initech
(100,129 posts)So they don't want gay people to get married, but divorce is perfectly acceptable.
They don't want young people to have sex before marriage, but the states where abstinence is taught have the highest rates of abortion and STDs.
They don't want young people to have kids, but it's perfectly OK for someone who's famous for being a "teen mom" to wax her 3 year old's unibrow.
Yeah, they're fucking stupid.
auntsue
(277 posts)divorce should be abolished...............
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Nor to they try to require remarriage if one spouse dies.
Idiots. I relish in their impotent rage!
NoPasaran
(17,291 posts)But feel free to waste your time and especially your money.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)still_one
(92,492 posts)Gays to your hate
They will be history like the whigs if they keep this up
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)And, outside of a handful of Log Cabin-ers, alienated that group.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)roamer65
(36,748 posts)That dog don't hunt...losers.
One thing I can see happening is partitioning of the country much like slave states vs free states, especially if the Supremes won't knock down the bans and keep punting on the issue.
If you think I'm wrong, just look and see where the resistance will be the strongest to gay marriage...the old states of the Confederacy.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)They don't have 40 votes in the Senate to ratify.
Some states with Rethug Governors have Democratic legislatures. They would not get close to having the amendment ratified.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Chisox08
(1,898 posts)DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Much like how virulent anti-gays often turn out to be big ole cock-gobblin' goblins themselves or, in Michelle Bachmann's case, married to one.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)They might actually stand a chance at getting minorities in their party.
I can't wait till the lawsuits come so red states have to recognize gay marriage.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Since they never work for what they get paid for.
That's also another reason to work to defeat them in sixteen months.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Yeah, good plan, Republicans. Run with it.
rpannier
(24,350 posts)Amendment banning gay marriage. They seem to find time for that
What happened to focusing in on economic issues?
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)that have equal marriage. That's enough right there to block any amendment from becoming law, even if it could get through both houses of Congress.
We're not in Kansas anymore, Timmy!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)"One hundred and thirty-three proposed amendments to the United States Constitution concerning marriage were
introduced before 2002."
MineralMan
(146,345 posts)No such Amendment will ever be enacted and ratified. Republicans are morons. They are just posturing.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)Just about the laziest appeal there is.
GoCubsGo
(32,100 posts)...and STILL no jobs bill. Useless fucking assholes.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Kablooie
(18,645 posts)The only thing they support is the right for good old boys to have their way with women without consequences.
They are against everything else.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Rozlee
(2,529 posts)They really don't see the new generation breathing down their necks, a new generation that is more secular and less entrenched in religious dogma than they are. The US is slowly going the way of Europe every succeeding generation, with religion meaning less with each one. When I was living as a child in rural Texas, everyone went to church unless they were bed bound and even then, the priest or preacher went to your house to make sure you weren't jacking off or doing something sinful under the sheets. Businesses were always closed on the Lord's Day, always. Then, gradually, a few started opening in the afternoons, then, after another period of time, all day long, with guilty looking shoppers furtively making their purchases. Last time I was in WV, I saw as many shoppers at Walmart as I saw streaming out of churches, which might not be significant in that neck of the woods, considering there's five churches on every damn block, even if the church is in somebody's garage. But, the younger generation is getting more and more turned off by the excessive religious posturing of the older one. I've seen it in my own family, as the 30-somethings and under get up super early on Sundays to dash out the door to weasel out of going to church, making sure their cells go to voice mail.
love_katz
(2,585 posts)some Good News...scratch that....it's Great News!
Myrina
(12,296 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)I wish Mr. Huelskamp the best, and I hope that's an issue during the mid-terms.
obama2terms
(563 posts)Like THAT will happen. 38 states are needed to ratify the amendment, and I doubt 38 states are willing to go through with that.
Martin Eden
(12,882 posts)Does Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kansas) honestly think prohibiting gay marriage will magically increase the number of 2-parent families? On the contrary, if anything it would add to the number of 1-parent families. A gay mom or dad isn't going to stop being gay just because Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kansas) is too small minded to tolerate a loving family that doesn't conform to his ignorant and bigoted definition.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)I give it a 10.0
burnodo
(2,017 posts)I care that so many people listen to them as if what they say is credible