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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe can now declare...the election of ANY Republican president in 2016 will be illegitimate...
Any GOP victory in that year, and any GOP gains in any states with "Voter ID" laws, will solely be the result of illegitimate voter suppression methods.
Therefore, we will have the right to be JUST as aggressive and relentless in organizing resistance to what will be an illegitimate government as the Teabaggers were in organizing their resistance to two LEGITIMATE presidential victories by Barack Obama. And we will be fully justified in ignoring or, if need be, turfing out in the next primary(assuming we can still vote in 2018)ANY "mainstream" Dem in the House or Senate who calls for "cooperation" and "moderation".
If we do not take this attitude in the face of such events, we will collapse as a party and we will deserve to.
It's the only way to keep the American that is being born from being smothered in the cradle.
No Pasaran!
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)We will mobilize and get the voters and and all information that is needed, and collect funds for those that cannot afford
to pay for the ID that is necessary
and make sure early voting is able to be done.
It is going to be the biggest landslide of alltime in 2016 in all races
Because the people of each state are NOT the draconian leaders.
And remember, the Ron and Rand Paul people will have to ALSO have that same ID, meaning there is some irony here,
in that if a photo ID and national data base is required, it means that the Paul people will have to do the same.
And it is the Paul people who do not want state and national data bases in the first place (as witness the guns/bullets).
By 2018, the court will be 7 to 2 democratic.
2013 and 2014 and 2015 and 2016.
Why the pessimistic view for 2016? It's not like the blue states will be changing anything and the demographic change is going to devastate the republican party quite sooner, rather than later.
For every obstacle, we shall overcome that obstacle.
God Bless Eric Holder for he is still going to be the ultimate decider on things.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)She might win, but what the heck are YOU smoking, cowboy? If I weren't in a drug-free workplace, I'd ask you to share it.
And it doesn't matter if Hillary wins if the teabaggers still hold the House(and it looks like our party isn't even going to try to flip that chamber).
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)August 24 was already going to be a celebration of Dr. King. Now it will and shall be even bigger.
The house is going to turn blue in 2014. What I will share with you is a couple of glasses of optimism.
Imagine if Dr. King and LBJ said it wouldn't happen.
We shall overcome the ruling, and sooner rather than later.
President Obama's and Hillary Clinton's and Elijah Cummings and John Lewis and Al Sharpton etc. supporters will come through.
LIKE THEY DID in 2008 and 2012, shall do so again in 2014 and 2016.
Now the party shall be more motivated than at any time in non-presidential elections.
Dr. King overcame, and we shall again overcome any obstacle.
If they demand full voter ID, we shall make sure every voter has that ID.
(and the irony is- all the Rand/Ron Paul fans are going to have to have all the same ID and data bases. And the same checkpoints
will be in all districts.)After all, this court is saying it has to be consistent.
And btw, even if you think 538 is too optimistic, all that is needed is 270.
There is NO path to 270 for any republican out there.
Not even for the ticket of Jeb Bush and Rand Paul, much as they shall try.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Today is about trying to turn rage into action and action into ultimate triumph.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)While one can say we don't want voter ID, if Texas and Mississippi and others put it in,
well, then the answer shall be, to get 100% of all those they are trying to block, all voting ID.
We can get Plouffe and Axelrod and any other private citizen to help with this
and we can get all those rich people to throw billions into financing it.
The republican days were numbered, and now, it will be sooner rather than later.
This will mobilize like nothing ever seen before.
All other issues are now immaterial to this, and this shall be the issue from now on.
When one has obstacles thrown at them, one doesn't give up, battles lost are in all wars, now it's time to win the war.