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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSnowden is one issue and NSA oversight is another.
White House petition to pardon Snowden crosses threshold
By Jonathan Easley
A White House petition calling for the pardoning of National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden has surpassed the 100,000 signatures it needs for an official response.
More than 111,000 people had signed the petition as of midday Monday. The petition requests a full, free, and absolute pardon for any crimes he [Snowden] has committed or may have committed related to blowing the whistle on secret NSA surveillance programs, and refers to him as a national hero.
A petition on the White House's We the People website needs 100,000 signatures in the first month of being posted to earn an official administration response.
A tense international manhunt is underway for Snowden, who revealed classified documents detailing the NSAs surveillance of phone and internet traffic.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307361-white-house-petition-to-pardon-snowden-crosses-threshold
By Jonathan Easley
A White House petition calling for the pardoning of National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden has surpassed the 100,000 signatures it needs for an official response.
More than 111,000 people had signed the petition as of midday Monday. The petition requests a full, free, and absolute pardon for any crimes he [Snowden] has committed or may have committed related to blowing the whistle on secret NSA surveillance programs, and refers to him as a national hero.
A petition on the White House's We the People website needs 100,000 signatures in the first month of being posted to earn an official administration response.
A tense international manhunt is underway for Snowden, who revealed classified documents detailing the NSAs surveillance of phone and internet traffic.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307361-white-house-petition-to-pardon-snowden-crosses-threshold
Julian Assange Wont Say When Wikileaks Began Working With Ed Snowden
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023082812
The Morning Plum: Obama takes tentative step towards surveillance transparency
By Greg Sargent
Today President Obama will meet with the newly constituted Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to take the first steps in the direction of having that debate over the proper balance between liberty and security that he says he wants, in the wake of revelations about NSA surveillance programs. Its unclear how significant meeting with this board which is designed to review terrorism programs to ensure attention to privacy concerns will prove.
But buried in the White House guidance from a senior administration official about the event is a real piece of news: the White House has directed the Director of National Intelligence and the Justice Department to look at whether to declassify Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court opinions authorizing the NSA surveillance programs.
The senior official says that the DNI and DOJ have been directed to review Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court opinions and filings relevant to the programs and to determine what additional information the Government can responsibly share about the sensitive and necessarily classified activities undertaken to keep the public safe.
As you know, a coalition of conservative libertarians and civil liberties liberals in Congress are pushing for legislation that would compel the declassification of FISA court opinions, and is asking the Obama administration to declassify them himself. The idea is to make a debate about the legal rationale for these programs possible. So in one sense, the fact that the President has asked for an internal review designed to move things in this direction is a good development...If the administration is considering releasing more information about the NSAs surveillance activities, thats a welcome development, Jameel Jaffer, a leading attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, emails me. Id note, though, that the administration said it would consider this possibility several years ago and nothing came of it. So while we appreciate the gesture towards transparency, well wait to see whats actually released.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/21/the-morning-plum-obama-takes-tentative-step-towards-surveillance-transparency/
By Greg Sargent
Today President Obama will meet with the newly constituted Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to take the first steps in the direction of having that debate over the proper balance between liberty and security that he says he wants, in the wake of revelations about NSA surveillance programs. Its unclear how significant meeting with this board which is designed to review terrorism programs to ensure attention to privacy concerns will prove.
But buried in the White House guidance from a senior administration official about the event is a real piece of news: the White House has directed the Director of National Intelligence and the Justice Department to look at whether to declassify Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court opinions authorizing the NSA surveillance programs.
The senior official says that the DNI and DOJ have been directed to review Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court opinions and filings relevant to the programs and to determine what additional information the Government can responsibly share about the sensitive and necessarily classified activities undertaken to keep the public safe.
As you know, a coalition of conservative libertarians and civil liberties liberals in Congress are pushing for legislation that would compel the declassification of FISA court opinions, and is asking the Obama administration to declassify them himself. The idea is to make a debate about the legal rationale for these programs possible. So in one sense, the fact that the President has asked for an internal review designed to move things in this direction is a good development...If the administration is considering releasing more information about the NSAs surveillance activities, thats a welcome development, Jameel Jaffer, a leading attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, emails me. Id note, though, that the administration said it would consider this possibility several years ago and nothing came of it. So while we appreciate the gesture towards transparency, well wait to see whats actually released.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/21/the-morning-plum-obama-takes-tentative-step-towards-surveillance-transparency/
Senators: End Secret Law
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022993363
These are two issues, and one doesn't make the other go away.
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Snowden is one issue and NSA oversight is another. (Original Post)
ProSense
Jun 2013
OP
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
sibelian
Jun 2013
#1
The "newly constituted Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board" was est. in 2004
Melinda
Jun 2013
#2
The author lost me with that bit tho. Be credible, I'll read. Not so much - cya.
Melinda
Jun 2013
#5
you mean like the DOJ were directed to leave medical marijuana patitents obeying state law alone?
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#3
marijuana patients dont get jobs in the president's cabinet so they are fair game nt
msongs
Jun 2013
#6
Do you think the "discussion" of the NSA and it's snooping would be happening without Snowden?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#10
sibelian
(7,804 posts)1. YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
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etc
etc
Melinda
(5,465 posts)2. The "newly constituted Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board" was est. in 2004
By Congress. In 2004.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)4. Here is more information
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3072024
Still, that doesn't negate the point that both Snowden and NSA oversight are going to be discussed.
Still, that doesn't negate the point that both Snowden and NSA oversight are going to be discussed.
Melinda
(5,465 posts)5. The author lost me with that bit tho. Be credible, I'll read. Not so much - cya.
And by that, I mean the author and his piece.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)3. you mean like the DOJ were directed to leave medical marijuana patitents obeying state law alone?
I don't trust the DOJ to do anything. They won't prosecute bankers, but they'll prosecute medical marijuana patients.
msongs
(67,478 posts)6. marijuana patients dont get jobs in the president's cabinet so they are fair game nt
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)7. The NSA is being "discussed" because of what Snowden revealed.
And, the government is trying to shut down the discussion by using the whistle blower as the issue.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)9. What Snowden did was steal information and then distorted it. n/t
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)10. Do you think the "discussion" of the NSA and it's snooping would be happening without Snowden?
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)8. +1. "These are two issues, and one doesn't make the other go away."