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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:15 PM Jun 2013

Maybe Hong Kong is simply relieved to be rid of Snowden

Hong Kong-U.S. relations likely to suffer from Edward Snowden saga

The city and the nation have walked away from the Snowden cybersnooping episode relatively unscathed, but Washington will not be happy

Niall Fraser

Two of the most tumultuous weeks in Hong Kong's recent political history drew to a close last night when US whistle-blower Edward Snowden's plane from Chek Lap Kok airport touched down in Moscow...the ramifications of the city's brief yet hugely public flirtation with the realities of super-power espionage will be deep and long lasting.

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Professor Simon Young Ngai-man, director of the Centre for Comparative and Public Law at the University of Hong Kong, was clearly taken aback..."It's a shocker. I thought he was going to stay and fight it out. The US government will be irate with their Hong Kong counterparts and may even question whether Hong Kong was acting in good faith pursuant to their treaty obligations. I have no doubt that they were and it is quite common for government lawyers to seek more information on surrender or mutual legal assistance requests before the local process can begin. But I'm surprised here."

Jin Canrong , the mainland's leading foreign relations scholar and associate dean of Renmin University's School of International Relations, said Snowden's departure was ideal for Beijing.

"A time bomb that could threaten the Sino-US relationship has been defused, even though the saga will go on and Snowden can still make more revelations. The strategy Beijing has been using in dealing with the case was to let Hong Kong handle it independently and keep a distance from it. I believe Beijing would not proactively take advantage of the intelligence Snowden revealed, because that would provoke Washington and rub salt into its wounds.

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http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1267572/hong-kong-us-relations-likely-suffer-edward-snowden-saga


Privately, U.S. officials say they believe Beijing authorities made the call to allow Snowden to leave. In doing so, the Chinese may have simply been passing along a "hot potato," that could have grown into a diplomatic spat.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/23/us-usa-security-obama-analysis-idUSBRE95M0HL20130623


For all we know this was simply a face-saving move, and no has any idea who made the deal.

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Maybe Hong Kong is simply relieved to be rid of Snowden (Original Post) ProSense Jun 2013 OP
...or relieved that the wreck of the RMS Queen Elizabeth has been buried for good. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #1
Kick! n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #2
Beijing's call, definitely BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #3
We were discussing this over move over the Sunday meal. Skidmore Jun 2013 #4
Maybe. Maybe they're relieved and they liked poking the U.S. cali Jun 2013 #5
"There won't be an extradition from Russia or Ecuador or Venezuela. " ProSense Jun 2013 #6
his stay in the Russian airport is temporary magical thyme Jun 2013 #7

BeyondGeography

(39,393 posts)
3. Beijing's call, definitely
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jun 2013

HK's Chief Executive doesn't do anything more significant than blow his nose without their permission.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
4. We were discussing this over move over the Sunday meal.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jun 2013

My husband said something to that effect and pointed out that the Hong Kong-China pseudo split facade could not be maintained should Snowden stay. Hong Kong is part of China. Period. It's a business district allowed to masquerade as a city-state.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. Maybe. Maybe they're relieved and they liked poking the U.S.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jun 2013

who knows? But in any case, no extradition from HK. There won't be an extradition from Russia or Ecuador or Venezuela.

No prosecution on the horizon.'

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. "There won't be an extradition from Russia or Ecuador or Venezuela. "
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jun 2013

Is he planning on fleeing those countries too?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
7. his stay in the Russian airport is temporary
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jun 2013

he will go where he is invited and won't be extradited. They're probably leaking various possible locations to keep us all guessing. No point in telling the US exactly which airport his plane is headed for. We'll find out soon enough where he finds his safe haven.

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