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This is getting real now..massive fire might take out South Fork, CO (Original Post) likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 OP
That's really sad Jarla Jun 2013 #1
No, I'm 100 miles away. I just know this town well and would hate to see it disappear. likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #3
Oops, sorry. Replied to myself by accident. Jarla Jun 2013 #7
It's one of my favorites along one of my favorite drives. DevonRex Jun 2013 #27
I understand. It sounds like a cute little town. Jarla Jun 2013 #5
don't forests need fire to clear waste and regenerate? nt msongs Jun 2013 #2
Yes, just hate that this town might get burned off the map. nt likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #4
Yes, but people are building enormous OldHippieChick Jun 2013 #6
This is not a case of luxury homes in the middle of the forest. likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #8
is this a beetle kill area pasto76 Jun 2013 #11
Yes, an awful lot of standing dead trees. likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #13
Sorry, I was not speaking specifically to the South Fork OldHippieChick Jun 2013 #25
So now they deserve to lose everything? name not needed Jun 2013 #12
+1 likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #14
Didn't say that. Don't put words in my online mouth. OldHippieChick Jun 2013 #26
Yes, but we've denied the forests these vital fires for a century NickB79 Jun 2013 #24
My heart goes out to those in South Fork, CO. bvar22 Jun 2013 #9
Thank you! likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #10
Stay safe. bvar22 Jun 2013 #15
Breck was a cool place in the 70's. Vail was always a contrived, made up place. likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #17
Another photo from South Fork area... kentuck Jun 2013 #41
We can see the smoke from Cortez. bluedigger Jun 2013 #16
I could see it last evening on the way home from work, but not tonight in downtown Durango. likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #18
You must be getting masked by the mountains. bluedigger Jun 2013 #19
Wow, I am just low enough that I don't see that. likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #20
Yeah, that's what we wondered the other day. bluedigger Jun 2013 #21
I've been to Cortez many times. For work DevonRex Jun 2013 #28
I might go out to Hovenweep this weekend. bluedigger Jun 2013 #30
The climbing hard way or the off-road DevonRex Jun 2013 #31
The off road way, lol. bluedigger Jun 2013 #32
Good luck! I could only imagine Black Bear Pass on my own two feet! likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #36
Oh come on now. bluedigger Jun 2013 #39
Thanks, but I really don't think I could stay in the jeep! likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #42
The smoke has surrounded Pikes Peak again this evening... kentuck Jun 2013 #22
Wow, is the smoke from the fire near Conifer? likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #23
No, it's from the "West Fork Complex" fire William Seger Jun 2013 #37
Wow, that's amazing. I'm in Durango and no smoke here. likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #38
Animated satellite image William Seger Jun 2013 #40
It's ghastly. madamesilverspurs Jun 2013 #29
"Wind shift offers hope to save South Fork from fire" William Seger Jun 2013 #33
A bit of good news! likesmountains 52 Jun 2013 #34
The Telluride Bluegrass Festival (Live) kentuck Jun 2013 #35

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
27. It's one of my favorites along one of my favorite drives.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jun 2013

Denver through Wolf Creek and Pagosa and Durango and Mesa Verde and Telluride and back through Gunnison.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
6. Yes, but people are building enormous
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jun 2013

luxury homes smack dab in the middle of the forest and not clearing the brush and trees nearest their houses. Not only are they being irresponsible, but it appears some of these fires are human-caused. Then all of our insurance rates go up to pay for their stupidity, not to mention the loss of some forest that didn't need clearing.

likesmountains 52

(4,100 posts)
8. This is not a case of luxury homes in the middle of the forest.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:10 PM
Jun 2013

I know what you're saying, but in this case it's a wildfire caused by lightning, heading for a town that (while there are a few luxury homes around there) is basically a bunch of older buildings and very modest homes. Have you been through there?

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
11. is this a beetle kill area
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:03 PM
Jun 2013

or is that one of the _other_ fires going right now

MAFF and DC10 were flying over pueblo today en route, presumably to this fire.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
25. Sorry, I was not speaking specifically to the South Fork
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:17 PM
Jun 2013

fire, but responding to the query above. Yes, this particular one may have been caused by lightening, but the overall invasion of the forest by man is contributing to other fires and endangering all of us.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
26. Didn't say that. Don't put words in my online mouth.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:19 PM
Jun 2013

Merely saying that people need to be aware of their surroundings and take responsible action, rather than assuming they are "entitled" to live where they want w/out any awareness of their impact on the environment.

NickB79

(19,285 posts)
24. Yes, but we've denied the forests these vital fires for a century
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 09:47 PM
Jun 2013

Fucking Smoky the Bear and all that. And in that time, massive amounts of dead fuel have built up, to the point that instead of a low-intensity ground fire, we see crown fires killing off trees that would normally survive the natural fires they evolved with for millions of years. Let the fires go, and you unleash a mega-fire unlike anything this ecosystem has encountered before. However, we are fighting a losing battle to stop the fires from happening, as more and more brush and branches build up every year. Ultimately, Nature WILL have Her way, and the forests will burn.

So, we have no real good options, because the entire system is so far out of whack thanks to our meddling.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
9. My heart goes out to those in South Fork, CO.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:32 PM
Jun 2013

I hope no harm comes to them.

This is an especially beautiful area, non-pretentious.
We used to over-night in South Fork on the Sante Fe to Boulder run,
but that was many years ago.

Fire could take the plastic Theme Park Towns like Vail or Breckenridge ,
and America would be a better place (AFIC),
but South Fork was unspoiled as I remember it.

Good Luck to you all.
Climate Change is going to be especially hard on these already dry, fire prone areas of The West.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
15. Stay safe.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:21 PM
Jun 2013

I re-read my gratuitous slam against Vail and Breckenridge,
and probably should edit it out.
I really don't want any harm to come to the beautiful state of Colorado,
or anybody that lives there.

..but I left it up because I personally can't stand those places.

likesmountains 52

(4,100 posts)
18. I could see it last evening on the way home from work, but not tonight in downtown Durango.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 09:05 PM
Jun 2013

The pics are amazing..horrible, but amazing.

bluedigger

(17,090 posts)
19. You must be getting masked by the mountains.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 09:10 PM
Jun 2013

I took this two nights ago, and tonight there was a much larger plume visible a little further north.

likesmountains 52

(4,100 posts)
20. Wow, I am just low enough that I don't see that.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 09:20 PM
Jun 2013

Thanks for the pic. If you didn't know better that might look like it's just a big cloud.

bluedigger

(17,090 posts)
21. Yeah, that's what we wondered the other day.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jun 2013

Except there wasn't a cloud in the sky. There were a lot of clouds over the mountains this afternoon, but the plume was about three times the size of this shot, extended all the way down to the horizon, and looked a lot more roiled. I didn't have my camera with me, but it was massive.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
28. I've been to Cortez many times. For work
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jun 2013

back when I was a Fed. Going again on the way to see Hovenweep this summer sometime. Then Telluride again.

bluedigger

(17,090 posts)
30. I might go out to Hovenweep this weekend.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jun 2013

Lived here two years and haven't been out there yet. Also might try to get into Telluride (the hard way) this month.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
31. The climbing hard way or the off-road
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jun 2013

hard way? Either way is a helluva lot more fun than the traffic the "easy" way. Have fun when you get there!!
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bluedigger

(17,090 posts)
32. The off road way, lol.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:12 PM
Jun 2013

This is the road I want to do - Black Bear Pass - took this coming down into Telluride from Imogene Pass last summer. Too old to hike those mountains.

bluedigger

(17,090 posts)
39. Oh come on now.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jun 2013

Nobody has died for... several years now. I can pm you and pick you up if you want to come along. The dog is a lousy spotter anyways.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
22. The smoke has surrounded Pikes Peak again this evening...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jun 2013

No rain in the forecast for the next week with temperatures in the 90's...

Here was a late sunset night before last...

William Seger

(10,791 posts)
37. No, it's from the "West Fork Complex" fire
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:37 PM
Jun 2013

... which includes the Windy Pass fire that's threatening South Fork. It's 200 miles away from Colorado Springs and Pikes Peak, but the smoke has completely engulfed the Peak for most of the last two days.

madamesilverspurs

(15,814 posts)
29. It's ghastly.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jun 2013

Colorado is my home, I was born here, as were my siblings. Childhood summers were spent in the mountains. These days I live on the northeast plains, but too often we can see and smell the smoke. Last summer I was sending constant updates to family across the country. Now I've sent them links to television stations where they can keep current. It's just too heartbreaking. I can't send any more updates. I just can't.

William Seger

(10,791 posts)
33. "Wind shift offers hope to save South Fork from fire"
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:22 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23510002/town-south-fork-ordered-evacuate-because-wildfire

SOUTH FORK — For most of Friday, only fire crews were left inside the evacuated town of South Fork, fighting a blaze that threatened to destroy the entire community.

But as the sun set, hopes rose that shifting winds and firefighters' efforts had saved the town — at least for now.

The West Fork Complex, a combination of three wildfires — West Fork, Windy Pass and Papoose — continued to spread in steep, rugged terrain through beetle-killed spruce on the west side of Wolf Creek Pass in southwestern Colorado.
...

Cloud cover and shifting winds late Friday afternoon gave crews hope the fire would not reach the town, said Bruce Palmer, spokesman for the U.S. Forest Service.
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