On Syria, we are now in a de facto alliance with Al Qaeda.

[Comrade Grumpy]

Am I wrong?

Mr. Zawahiri himself has called for a jihad to overthrow the Syrian regime.

Al Qaeda affiliates (All Nusra, Al Qaeda in Iraq) are some of the most effective rebel fighters. Thousands of jihadis have been flooding into Syria to destroy the apostates.

We have blacklisted Al Nusra, of course, but we are on the same side.

What happens if/when Assad is driven from power? The next civil war in Syria?

[Vinnie From Indy]

1. We re now at war with Eastasia

Orwell was a prophet as well as an author.

[Wounded Bear]

2. Hell, why not?

We basically created and trained most of them. We certainly trained Osama bin Laden.

[Catherina]

3. Two Books to read

The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski who created, trained and armed Al Qaeda

and The Prize by Daniel Yergin



Iran is the next pawn in 'The Grand Chessboard'. To get to Iran, we need to go through Syria first. Criminal alliances, dead bodies, leaving civil wars in our path, orphans, none of that matters. We're on our way to the grand prize. Destabilize the whole region and so the 1% can plow their way over all the dead bodies and get their prize.

[ForeignandDomestic]

4. Insanity

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Our country is trillions and trillions of dollars in debt, and when it comes to social programs and the bettering of our people we're out of funds and apparently in need of austerity.

Can't properly fund our schools or fix bridges but we always have enough greenbacks for war and weapons and the overall destruction of life.

So now we're currently in Syria engaged in a proxy war with Russia and we're allied with Al Qaeda!

Any "liberal" that supports this let's be clear about one thing by supporting these endless wars you are actually enabling the REAL ENEMIES the Military Industrial Complex who actually want to see the downfall of America. Let that contemplate for awhile!

[Comrade Grumpy]

5. No one seems to be disagreeing that we now have a de facto alliance with Al Qaeda.

[David__77]

6. Syria is like Cambodia in the early 70s.

In many key ways. Specifically, you have a heterogeneous insurgency that is under the effective political control of al Qaeda, just as the royalist Sihanouk forces were under the political control of Pol Pot and his party. Liberals in the West cheered on Pol Pot, and many cheer on al Qaeda now, perhaps unwittingly. Children are being executed, sectarian slaughters committed, and random shelling of peaceful secure areas to terrorize civilians - this is the work of the "moderate terrorists." They will depopulate 90% of the cities and eat the rest.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. Well, supporting "Freedom Fighters" worked ever so well in Afghanistan.

[Comrade Grumpy]

8. Shameless auto-kick in search of discussion.

[roamer65]

9. Makes on wonder, doesn't it?

[magellan]

10. How else do you make the surveillance state relevant? n/t