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Whenever there's a complicated issue, I turn to Eugene Robinson for an explanation. Over the years, he's impressed me as the most thoughtful and level-headed political writer out there. His take on the issue:
In the coming debate, someone should explain why a mid-level computer guy working for a private contractor had access to so many of the NSAs most closely held secrets. Someone should explain why the intelligence court is evidently so compliant. Someone should explain perhaps in French, German and Spanish why our allies e-mails are fair game for the agencys prying eyes.
But heres the big issue: The NSA, it now seems clear, is assembling an unimaginably vast trove of communications data, and the bigger it gets, the more useful it is in enabling analysts to make predictions. Its one thing if the NSA looks for patterns in the data that suggest a nascent overseas terrorist group or an imminent attack. Its another thing altogether if the agency observes, say, patterns that suggest the birth of the next tea party or Occupy Wall Street movement.
Is that paranoia? Then reassure me. Lets talk about the big picture and decide, as citizens, whether we are comfortable with the direction our intelligence agencies are heading. And lets remember that it was Snowden, not our elected officials, who opened this vital conversation.
Read the whole op-ed here.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Thanks for posting. Note that Eugene does not protect the Obama administration in his op-ed.
He writes:
"Did you know that the NSA is compiling and storing a massive, comprehensive log of our domestic phone calls? I didnt. Nor did I know that the agency can access huge volumes of e-mail traffic and other electronic data overseas not just communications originating in trouble spots such as Pakistan but also in countries such as Germany and Britain. I would have thought that anyone who accused the U.S. government of omniscient, automatic, mass surveillance, as Snowden did in an exchange with Post contributor Barton Gellman, was being paranoid. Now Im not so sure.
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The secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court has to issue the orders that allow the NSA to collect metadata from telephone providers. But as far as I can tell we are not allowed to know the content of the courts rulings and have to make do with crumbs of, well, metadata the courts standard answer is yes. In its 34 years of existence, the court has approved more than 30,000 government requests for surveillance authority while rejecting a grand total of 11. That is not what Id call oversight.
The NSAs snooping is also subject to scrutiny by the intelligence committees of the Senate and the House. The chairmen of those panels Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) have been among the NSAs most vocal supporters in recent days. But since so much of the committees work is classified, they say they cant tell us why.
And as for Obama, he said last week that I welcome this debate and I think its healthy for our democracy. Why, then, didnt he launch the discussion rather than wait for Snowdens leaks?
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yes, Eugene Robinson is one of the best journalists out there.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth