my 17 year just told me about a test

[Sheepshank]

A test that was designed to inform the student of their political leanings. I'd sort of let her find her own way in this political arena. Of course she does see the choices and hears the opinions of her parents.

We live a VERY red State...Utah. We live in an extremely conservative, religious community in this red State. Utah. She is an honest, respectful , smart, beautiful, ahtletic athiest....and she tested out as a strong Liberal

Following the test, she said the class discussion on Zimmerman seemed clearly drawn along political lines and the RW'ers were clearly on the wrong side of social/moral justice. In her opinion all of their arguements were based on the right to kill...not the right to live.

My heart sings for a girl that can internalize the need to respect life:

[Harmony Blue]

1. You should be very proud

it isn't easy for young children to grow up in an environment where there is peer pressure.

[Sheepshank]

4. You are right...about peer pressure

one of the traits I failed to list was the self confidence this young lady has. That confidence has a great power to nullify much peer pressure to chose a path that is against one's own personal convictions.

[itsrobert]

2. I vote for the right to live

by giving Zimmermann the Death Penalty.

[Sheepshank]

10. oh ...ok

Note sure if you were being wry or not.


She doesn't understand this "religious" state and it'sseemingly contradictory desire to use the death penalty. But that's another discussion lol

[sakabatou]

12. Because life in prison isn't a choice?

[awoke_in_2003]

24. My sarcasm meter went off...

when I read that- I hate to put words in someone's mouth, but I think he as being sarcastic.

[sakabatou]

25. And this is why we have the sarcasm tag

[awoke_in_2003]

27. True, but not all use it. nt

[nomorenomore08]

17. Not big on the DP, but as a visceral reaction I don't really blame you.

A kid with his whole life ahead of him, who never hurt anybody, demonized posthumously by millions as a "thug." God, this country fucking sucks...

[freshwest]

3. Very good, you have much to be proud of there. Best wishes to her continued progress.

[Sheepshank]

6. She will be going to her last year of HS...and it promises to be an amazing year for her.

Thx, I have every hope that she continues on this trajectory.

[freshwest]

7. Her analysis of the others was very clear. Good job, folks.

[giftedgirl77]

5. Congrats

I can relate we live in SC & not the civilized parts. Both my 15 yr old & 11 yr old have had their battles at school. My youngest put the smackdown (figuratively) at school against one of his teachers who that her classroom was her personal Bible study & my 15yr old had a blast at election time debating these little nutters at school.

Sometimes you can only do so much but when they come back to tell you of their conquests you know you've done right.

[Sheepshank]

8. you clearly "get it"

having fun with these debates for sure. Somtimes I think it emboldens them when they are in the minority...emboldens them to speak up and make a firm stand. I love it!!

[giftedgirl77]

9. Without a doubt

My boys are very quick witted & never disappoint me. They really are amazing.

[Chiennoir54]

11. Congrats

You should be very proud of her. And of your parenting. To have a child who isn't pulled under by peer pressure in this day is an achievement in itself. Good luck maintaining in Utah. Central Virginia is a challenge, too, but not on the level of Utah.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

13. It's not just a right to kill, it's a right to fear...

They ALWAYS feel their fear is justified.

[defacto7]

14. A big congratulations.

I am also from Utah and I know exactly what you mean. Utah is a different animal. You should be very proud of yourselves for having brought up a child with such excellent instincts especially in this political climate.

[Sheepshank]

20. Thanks.....makes one think there is hope

for a little perhaps reasonable thinking......as soon as Mike Lee is deposed lol

[ReRe]

15. Congratulations!

It's like a big passage, to learn that your children have grown in to lovers of Democracy & Justice. I know how thrilled your are, as I feel the same way that my sons all grew up to be good Democrats too. I wasn't too sure of the oldest, but finally he came along, as he went to work after he got out of the AF and joined a Union. Became the Union Steward. Don't have to worry about him anymore. All of them have real good judgement and care about someone other than themselves. That's about as good as we can hope for in this mean old cruel world we brought them into, huh? Let your heart sing!

[Sheepshank]

21. love your words...thx n/t

[ErikJ]

16. Liberals want to support people, Conservatives want to bury people.

[timdog44]

18. You should be proud to have raised such

a loving and thinking young lady. I am not sure if you are LDS or any other Christian faith, but if the thoughts and teachings of Jesus are followed by most, most would test out as a strong liberal. By the way, I am not atheist, but nor am I affiliated with any religion other than knowing that somehow all this was set in motion by some powerful force. Everyday I wake up it seems like I am in church and the temple is my back yard. I know that is coming out funny, but if you knew me you'd know what I mean.

[Sheepshank]

22. She just doesn't know what to believe...agnostic?...but I suspect that may be still evolving

I also tend towards atheism, but again, letting her have her own head in this journey. I doubt she will ever join the LDS church. I was a card carrying member for too long and have a very strong opinions over certain doctrines and policies....she has clearly picked up on those.

Everyday I wake up it seems like I am in church and the temple is my back yard. I know that is coming out funny, but if you knew me you'd know what I mean.

It's a lovely thought and I *do* know what you mean.

[timdog44]

23. Thank you

for the kind words.

Keep up the good works.

[Cha]

19. I'm so happy for you, Sheepshank.. and your daughter and whole

Fam! It's a precious gift!

I have a couple of those kids too.. which is all of the!

[lunatica]

26. I hope she's very proud to be a liberal

And I hope she has other liberal friends in her class. It's very lonely otherwise.

[GeorgeGist]

28. Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.