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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHad you ever heard of Booz Allen prior to 36 hours ago?
Be honest.
I'd be lying if I claimed to have heard of it before yesterday, and a quick poll of some of the people in my office reveals that 35 out of 36 still haven't heard of it.
They were a consultant to the Savings and Loan industry during the Southwest Plan days
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)WestStar
(202 posts)Nobody knows these outfits.
FSogol
(45,579 posts)Everyone around DC has heard of them.
MiniMe
(21,722 posts)I have friends who work for Booz Allen, most of them hate it there.
randome
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I've had friends who worked there, and I considered a job there at one point. I've known about them for over 20 years.
Edit to add: the problem here isn't the company itself - if they hadn't won the contract to do the spying, someone else would have.
Peregrine
(992 posts)An extremely large government contractor. Where you find the Feds, you will find them.
longship
(40,416 posts)He had fake ID and looked old enough to supply all his friends.
Is that what you mean?
I interviewed for a job with them about 12 years ago..
Hobo
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Orrex
(63,260 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,947 posts)stopbush
(24,397 posts)GentryDixon
(2,963 posts)I was a Budget Officer for the Department of Defense, so I saw all the contractors fighting for the big bucks at the expense of the in-house worker. Thanks Ronald Reagan, you dirty bugger.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)He said he was thinking about leaking the info 'before' the Nov 2008 election, and then decided to wait to see what Obama would do after/if he was elected.
Snowden wasn't with Booz Allen Hamilton back then, he was at BAH only there months this year.
-snip-
He later went to work for the CIA as an information technology employee and by 2007 was stationed in Geneva, Switzerland, where he had access to classified documents.
During that time, he considered going public about the nation's secretive programs but told the newspaper he decided against it, because he did not want to put anyone in danger and he hoped Obama's election would curtail some of the clandestine programs.
He said he was disappointed that Obama did not rein in the surveillance programs.
-snip-
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)they are a client of the company I work for. They are a naughty bunch and have been in the news before.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)G_j
(40,372 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)think
(11,641 posts)But not this subsidiary or whatever they want to call this private contractor who made The Carlyle Group $2 billion:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2013/06/10/the-carlyle-group-has-made-2-billion-off-of-booz-allen/
pangaia
(24,324 posts)as far as I know, is not so much a company, as a bunch of rich fuckers who run the world.
Now, I could be mistaken...about the company part.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)LeftInTX
(25,720 posts)Auggie
(31,227 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)my office used them for some (mostly administrative/marketing type) stuff.
But not under that exact name. Think they're lineage is actually accounting firms from the early 70s. Could be wrong......brain cells start dwindling at my age
aristocles
(594 posts)They have offices all over D.C. And at most major military bases.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I can't help but picture a guy named Allen who sells liquor when I hear it now.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Warpy
(111,417 posts)Their Wikipedia entry is very recent and reads like a PR handout given to bright college grads with no morals.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)They're the 900 pound gorilla among contractors. They're also part of most DC-area people's drive home.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,405 posts)But they might have been a publishing firm, too.
But from what the experts on MSNBC said today, there are apparently thousands of firms contracting with the intelligence complex -- some big, some mom-pop operations -- to eavesdrop. Thousands. I would say that Booz Allen is not our biggest problem.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)The Carlyle Group Has Made $2 Billion Off Of Booz Allen
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In 2008, the Carlyle Group made a large $910 million investment to buy a majority stake in Booz Allens government consulting business. The deal saw Booz Allens big government advisory unit, which produced most of the firms revenue, split off from its corporate consulting group, on the eve of the financial crisis.
But Washington-based Carlyle, which has a long and successful history doing deals involving government contractors, has really made the Booz Allen deal work. It has been an amazing transaction for Carlyle. The private equity firm has made $2 billion in realized and unrealized profits on the Booz Allen Hamilton deal so far. Its $910 million investment is now worth $3 billion.
Carlyles acquisition of Booz Allen looked risky back in 2008, but Carlyle believed it could unlock value by separating the cash generating government advisory side of the business from the corporate consulting part of the company. Shares of Booz Allen fell by 3.6% in Monday morning trading after one of its employees, Edward Snowden, leaked information about a secret National Security Agency surveillance program.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)lanlady
(7,136 posts)and we do a lot of great work.
sikofit3
(145 posts)to get a job there. I have a friend who works there that gave me a recommendation, how long does the process take of even letting someone know if they are considered? It seems like forever!
Orrex
(63,260 posts)What annoys me is that they simply didn't exist in the national consciousness until a day and a half ago (or so), but now the media are acting like they've known all about them since forever.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I've even sent them my resume once
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Yes. It's a government contractor. They interviewed me coming out of college in 2002.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)I applied to several contract positions offered by them on the various job boards. that was 8 years ago.
elleng
(131,292 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)pnwmom
(109,021 posts)Had a relative who worked for them. It's a management consulting firm, like McKinsey.
Solly Mack
(90,798 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 11, 2013, 09:33 AM - Edit history (3)
From 2005
The Spy Who Billed Me
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5662129
From 2007
Did you know info in the PDB is collected by contractors?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1441250
PsychoBunny
(86 posts)nt
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Ilsa
(61,710 posts)rightsideout
(978 posts)They are pretty well known if you live in the DC area. It's one of many Beltway Bandit companies in DC with Federal contracts. I didn't take the job because my custom van wouldn't fit in their parking garage. They suggested I take the spoiler off the top. In hindsight, I should have done that or got a car because they are a pretty well known company in DC and have alot of clout. They used to be called Booz, Allen and Hamilton. Not sure what happened to Hamilton.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)They actually did "legitimate" work at one time.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Hackers flying the AntiSec banner claimed today that they compromised a server at consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton and have released internal data, including about 90,000 military e-mail addresses.
"We infiltrated a server on their network that basically had no security measures in place. We were able to run our own application, which turned out to be a shell and began plundering some booty," the hackers wrote in a message on the Pastebin file storage site. "Most shiny is probably a list of roughly 90,000 military emails and password hashes (md5, non-salted of course!). We also added the complete sqldump, compressed ~50mb, for a good measure."
The hackers also claimed to have grabbed source code, but said it was "insignificant" so they wiped it from the Booz Allen Hamilton system, as well as "maps and keys for various other treasure chests buried on the islands of government agencies, federal contractors and shady whitehat companies. This material surely will keep our blackhat friends busy for a while."
Booz Allen Hamilton representatives did not immediately respond to e-mails and phone messages seeking comment. A representative for the company tweeted this message from the @BoozAllen Twitter account: "As part of @BoozAllen security policy, we generally do not comment on specific threats or actions taken against our system."
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20078498-245/hackers-claim-they-exposed-booz-allen-hamilton-data/
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)lynne
(3,118 posts)- didn't know too much about them, though.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Been around for years.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And a few others.
Fr lordly sake I live in a town that has a few, including Caqui, some lovable Mercs, really, and Xe, and yes, general atomics, and a few none of us gas heard off
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)It's just too weird...Sort of like.. 'Custer Battles.'
I mean, give me a break.
Through a family member who used to work there.
neverforget
(9,437 posts)SharonAnn
(13,781 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I read a book relevant to management in health care. The model discussed in this book discussed the way patient care was aggregated, and managed to be rather provocative, even the the model never really worked in health care.
So, there... and frankly, so what?
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)This was in the 1970s. My agency was not defense or intelligence related, BTW.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)Can I help?
GoCubsGo
(32,099 posts)On the Road
(20,783 posts)They are 99 years old and extremely large in the consulting world. In the 80's, they used to insist on spelling their name "Booz.Allen". I used to joke that they thought they were so important they could invent their own punctuation.
Booz Allen is not a fake company or a consulting firm created for special purposes. They are not cheap, but in general they have smart people, a good reputation, and know what they're doing. The Carlyle Group thing was news to me.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Booz Allen has already been involved in one Anonymous hack earlier this year. When the hacker collective dumped 71,000 emails from the cybersecurity firm HBGary Federal in retaliation for what it interpreted as an attempt to unmask key figures within Anonymous, the emails revealed that HBGary had worked with Booz Allen Hamilton to develop a response plan for Bank of America based on what the bank feared might be an upcoming leak of its internal documents by WikiLeaks. The Anonymous statement also paints the contractor as a revolving door of military-related conflicts of interest, and argues that the firm has been involved in mass surveillance projects.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/07/11/anonymous-hackers-breach-booz-allen-hamilton-dump-90000-military-email-addresses/
alp227
(32,073 posts)I think some veteran DUers may be familiar with Booz back in 2007 because of these media exposures:
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)or Carlyle or Black Water? Or Enron? How about the Koch brothers? Do people know who Neil Bush is?
How many people know we are still at war in Afghanistan?
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
I bet they aren't happy to be so famous in this way, either.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)karynnj
(59,508 posts)They were management consultants mentioned in many business articles.