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I think it's an important question to ask.
Probably change their MO, more importantly you have to believe that there are good people who do work at these agencies trying to protect us.
I don't have an answer and I'm not looking for a fight.
Is Edward a hero?
Has he made it harder to find terrorist?
The world isn't a one hour tv show that crime can be stopped with fancy fictional tech equipment.
I don't like what he did, but I can see how someone in his position would feel given how bad the world really is.
I still support President Obama.
treestar
(82,383 posts)chain of command
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I am not alone, as you will see from the comments following this article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance
-Laelth
MineralMan
(146,350 posts)be watched in their communications. A guy who is involved with terrorism would have to be pretty stupid not to imagine people were looking for him. Dontcha think?
warrior1
(12,325 posts)what methods?
You would want to crunch numbers, find patterns, locations, money.
A lot of these systems of collecting data have been around for a very long time, it's getting to were do you start looking.
Leaking these methods will make it harder.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)... Sounds like goddamned vintage Dick Cheney-spew. I'll take my chances in a country where a government regularly spying on its citizens is still considered an abomination, thanks.
That is a sad comment you just made. I feel sorry for you.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)warrior1
(12,325 posts)I didn't want to fight with anyone. You decided to call me dick fucking cheney, a criminal.
I feel sorry for someone that can't see the difference.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Cheney-esque. I, too, feel sorry for someone who cannot see the difference.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Absent evidence to the contrary, I see no reason to doubt Pres. Obama on this.
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AzDar
(14,023 posts)If the same assurances/revelations were coming from a Bush, or a (Ted) Cruz, or a Palin Administration, would you still be cool with it?
randome
(34,845 posts)There are 3 levels of review currently. At some point, we do need to trust someone or we will spend our entire lives in a state of panic.
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BenzoDia
(1,010 posts)usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)What have American's learned?
Rex
(65,616 posts)operations? Leak classified misinformation just to get that many more terrorists with a drone missile.
WestStar
(202 posts)is that no matter how many billions are spent, no matter how big and intrusive government becomes, Black September will still attack the Munich Olympics, someone will still blow up the Marine barracks in Beirut, park a truck bomb in the basement of the World Trade Center, blow a hole in the side of the USS Cole, fly commercial passenger planes into WTC and the Pentagon, murder a bunch of fellow soldiers on the secure Ft. Bragg military base and kill and maim people just trying to watch a foot race.
Having said that I think your odds of being hit by lighting, getting run over by a bus or perishing in a car wreck, even with all the seat belts and airbags, are probably greater.
It's the least of my worries.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)That no matter what they do, there will always be brave Americans who believe truth and knowledge are stronger than fear, and refuse to be cowed by them or their own government.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)them so they learned they can all just go home safe in the knowledge that our freedoms are gone!
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Edit: Oh, and that their strategy works even better than they hoped it would.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)wallowing in fear is a choice. Nobody can terrorize you if you don't agree to it. Some people like horror movies. They like the adrenaline rush they get from faux "fear." Some people like drama; any excuse to ratchet their emotions up to an extreme. Some people allow their buttons to be pushed and react like obedient little sheep. Some seem addicted to it.
I see "terrorists" for what they are: bullies willing to take it to an extreme, just as their targets are willing to take their fear to an extreme.
I'm not trying to find "terrorists." There are plenty in plain sight right here at home: political terrorists, economic terrorists, class terrorists, social terrorists, all willing to blow the quality of life, liberty, and happiness of the masses to smithereens.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
― Benjamin Franklin, Memoirs of the life & writings of Benjamin Franklin
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)markiv
(1,489 posts)any time a citizen questions a politician, and the politician doesnt like it, they need only say '911'
if the citizen says a single world after that, they are immediately classified as a terrorist
we must be safe
markiv
(1,489 posts)Warpy
(111,437 posts)They'll probably learn to use burner cell phones from convenience stores rather than i phones with a subscription plan.
Oh, Uncle Sugar can still track those. They just won't be making it easy for him.
I doubt knowing they're being watched bothers any wannabe terrorist in the slightest. It didn't seem to bother Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)After this weeks news stories, James Clapper, director of national intelligence, released a statement, describing what the program is and is not. Jenkins, after reading a few lines from this statement, said, I cannot figure out why this was classified to begin with. It should have been in the public domain all along. The fact is, terrorists know were watching their communications. Well, some of them, it seems, are idiots, but if they were all idiots, we wouldnt need a program like this. The sophisticated ones, the ones were worried about, they know this. There are debates we can have in public without really giving away sensitive collection secrets. Its a risk, but these are issues that affect all of us and our way of life.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2013/06/brian_jenkins_fears_nsa_overreach_a_top_terrorism_expert_thinks_government.single.html