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Belmont (Original Post) Aerows Jun 2013 OP
That's a damn good looking horse. Autumn Jun 2013 #1
Amazing Aerows Jun 2013 #5
Nah malaise Jun 2013 #2
Wish the filly would have won Aerows Jun 2013 #12
Palace Malice malaise Jun 2013 #3
Kicked ass! Aerows Jun 2013 #4
Sure did malaise Jun 2013 #6
He ran so fast, there weren't even Aerows Jun 2013 #10
All of them were gorgeous Aerows Jun 2013 #7
If I were a racehorse, I'd ALWAYS run up front. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #8
Malice was so soundly in front Aerows Jun 2013 #9
I'm waiting for someone to blame it on Obama Aerows Jun 2013 #11
Genuine Risk Aerows Jun 2013 #13
Did any horses collapse and die this year? leftyladyfrommo Jun 2013 #14
My word Aerows Jun 2013 #15
Some really beautiful horses have died. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2013 #16
Yes, this is known Aerows Jun 2013 #17
Horses race because we make them. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2013 #18
Horses run Aerows Jun 2013 #20
I do not watch horse racing any more. It's cruel and inhumane and should be banned. chimpymustgo Jun 2013 #19
Horses are going to die anyway Aerows Jun 2013 #22
After reading that Times article I will never go to a race again for fear of what Auntie Bush Jun 2013 #23
Won't say Aerows Jun 2013 #21
The Malice from the Palace had the brew that is true pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #24
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
10. He ran so fast, there weren't even
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:50 PM
Jun 2013

any horses getting mud in their faces from his hooves. He kicked ass.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
8. If I were a racehorse, I'd ALWAYS run up front.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:47 PM
Jun 2013

You get too dirty running in the middle or back of the pack.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
15. My word
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:23 PM
Jun 2013

No.

Where in the hell are you watching horses being raced? Multi-Million dollar athletes that can have other multi-million dollar athletic children, and you think they will be ridden to death?

leftyladyfrommo

(18,874 posts)
16. Some really beautiful horses have died.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jun 2013

Their legs break down.

Eight Bells had to be euthanized on the track.

I can't remember his name but one of the horses broke his leg. His owners tried to save him, spent a million dollars. And he had to be euthanized anyway after months of trying to pull him through.

Just go out and look up race horse deaths - many many horses die each year.

An average of 24 horses die each week at racetracks. Most of the time their legs break down.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
17. Yes, this is known
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jun 2013

It is a tragedy. They also do this because this is what they are born to do.

They will do it in the field in plain view, or they will do it, period. Nothing and no one will stop a horse from running. Good will, good wishes and blind faith doesn't stop one that is plain good at running it's ass off. All you can do is either take care of it, or let it run itself off of a cliff.

I'm probably the wrong person to ask about this. Ask riderinthestorm or someone equally qualified.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,874 posts)
18. Horses race because we make them.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:44 PM
Jun 2013

It's not some glorius thing. We like to bet on the races. We cause their deaths.

We are responsible. And hundreds of horses die each year on racetracks because we like to watch them for our entertainment.

Don't sugar coat it. It's ugly.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
20. Horses run
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:55 PM
Jun 2013

because they are designed to do so, like gazelles. They aren't cows. Just to clarify that, but I also don't shy away from the fact that horses die at racetracks.

I guess we can find something else to ride, like moose. yes, they've been ridden for centuries. It is a symbiotic relationship between man and horse (or moose). Should we race them? You've got me there, but to deny that there is a relationship between our kind is to buy into the PETA party line that we can have no relationship at all.

And that's bullshit. We've always had a relationship with animals. Humanity doesn't exist in a bubble, and animals aren't exploited so much as they are in a working partnership with us on many levels. Chickens in a coop and dogs that keep them safe to lay eggs. Cows that provide milk, and a human that built a barn and more dogs to keep them safe. Cats that keep the area clear of mice and rats and their droppings. On and on.

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
19. I do not watch horse racing any more. It's cruel and inhumane and should be banned.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:44 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/us/death-and-disarray-at-americas-racetracks.html?pagewanted=all

Mangled Horses, Maimed Jockeys
The new economics of horse racing are making an always-dangerous game even more so, as lax oversight puts animal and rider at risk.
Jakob Schiller for The New York Times

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On average, 24 horses die each week at racetracks across America. Many are inexpensive horses racing with little regulatory protection in pursuit of bigger and bigger prizes. These deaths often go unexamined, the bodies shipped to rendering plants and landfills rather than to pathologists who might have discovered why the horses broke down.

In 2008, after a Kentucky Derby horse, Eight Belles, broke two ankles on national television and was euthanized, Congress extracted promises from the racing industry to make its sport safer. While safety measures like bans on anabolic steroids have been enacted, assessing their impact has been difficult because many tracks do not keep accurate accident figures or will not release them.

But an investigation by The New York Times has found that industry practices continue to put animal and rider at risk. A computer analysis of data from more than 150,000 races, along with injury reports, drug test results and interviews, shows an industry still mired in a culture of drugs and lax regulation and a fatal breakdown rate that remains far worse than in most of the world.

If anything, the new economics of racing are making an always-dangerous game even more so. Faced with a steep loss of customers, racetracks have increasingly added casino gambling to their operations, resulting in higher purses but also providing an incentive for trainers to race unfit horses. At Aqueduct Racetrack in Queens, the number of dead and injured horses has risen sharply since a casino opened there late last year.

Mr. Martin’s injury occurred in a state with the worst safety record for racetracks, a place where most trainers who illegally pump sore horses full of painkillers to mask injury — and then race them — are neither fined nor suspended and owners of those drugged horses usually keep their winnings.

The failure of regulators to stop that cheating is reflected in the numbers. Since 2009, records show, trainers at United States tracks have been caught illegally drugging horses 3,800 times, a figure that vastly understates the problem because only a small percentage of horses are actually tested.

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Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
23. After reading that Times article I will never go to a race again for fear of what
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jun 2013

I might witness ...even though I live near the Saratoga Race Track. I just couldn't stand seeing a horse being injured or euthanized.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. Won't say
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:09 PM
Jun 2013

what I would like to say. This is a frustrating example of how you can't make a thread without 20 people piling on. I think I could fix it by ceasing to ever create threads.

But where is the fun in that?

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