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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:28 PM Jun 2013

'Star Trek Into Darkness' Promotes Bestiality Says Pastor Kevin Swanson

Pastor Kevin Swanson slammed the new film "Star Trek Into Darkness" this week on his "Generations Radio" program because the movie allegedly promotes bestiality (audio below).

He said the movie "implicates the good guy [Captain Kirk] in the film as mating with the wrong species, but not just one, but two."

Pastor Swanson added: “That’s how you get evolution, and so the end result of course is that evolution has no basic problem with bestiality or cross-species mating.”

According to RightWingWatch.org, his co-host Dave Beuhner theorized: "I'm not sure that bestiality and the homosexuality are really all that different."

"The whole premise of this is that within an evolutionary construct there is no real problem with speciation and cross-species mating, there’s no problem with that at all, in fact that’s how you evolve, that’s how you get evolution, and so the end result of course is that evolution has no basic problem with bestiality or cross-species mating," said Pastor Swanson.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/christianity/star-trek-darkness-promotes-bestiality-says-pastor-kevin-swanson-audio

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'Star Trek Into Darkness' Promotes Bestiality Says Pastor Kevin Swanson (Original Post) The Straight Story Jun 2013 OP
It beats marrying your sister, as demonstrated by Exhibit A in the article jberryhill Jun 2013 #1
Ugh. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #2
bet he's against race mixing as well dlwickham Jun 2013 #3
Yeah, he thinks it's just terrible XemaSab Jun 2013 #8
I am not sure I watched the same movie nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #4
I'm guessing he's referring to Spock and Uhura shawn703 Jun 2013 #18
He s an idiot no doubt nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #22
Other than the whole "cross species mating leads to evolution" thingy... Wounded Bear Jun 2013 #5
People who know nothing about evolution... Deep13 Jun 2013 #6
Problem is, they don't know that they don't know. Iggo Jun 2013 #13
Maybe he thought is was a documentary. TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #27
Well, he thinks the Bible is literally true... Deep13 Jun 2013 #45
Cue 49% of Republicans polled agreeing. nt gulliver Jun 2013 #7
Oh, for f/ck sakes. What won't these ppl say? blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #9
In case it's a while before I get to see this movie, House of Roberts Jun 2013 #10
IIRC, James T. Kirk is renowned for trying to mate with EVERY species. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2013 #12
Kirk knew how to operate a replicator. House of Roberts Jun 2013 #15
The REAL drag is they had no Holodeck on the 1701A. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2013 #17
I'm not sure that... SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #11
The movie promotes lazy story-telling, that's all. randome Jun 2013 #14
Christ. Sometimes I think they do this shit deliberately. sibelian Jun 2013 #16
I know....tossing in a spoiler like that for those who have not seen the movie yet. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #39
Really makes you wonder what people like Kevin Swanson do in their free time. Initech Jun 2013 #19
I think it just promotes lens flare and jiggling cameras. longship Jun 2013 #20
Dude, we have to silence this guy. Now that he has unlocked the secret of evolution... antigone382 Jun 2013 #21
Sounds awesome to me MattBaggins Jun 2013 #49
Star Trek Into Darkness' Promotes Bestiality Says Pastor Kevin Swanson, sheepishly. n/t retread Jun 2013 #23
My moral objections about this new "Star Trek"... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #24
In Generations I was disturbed by one very obvious flaw The Straight Story Jun 2013 #25
No kidding! NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #28
Funny. I thought ST5 sucked worse than everything else burnodo Jun 2013 #33
That's the second worst IMO. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #35
To be fair, the Federation has a temporal prime directive.... phleshdef Jun 2013 #40
umm...weird burnodo Jun 2013 #29
Shatner is an ass. Arrogant. Nimoy classy. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #36
According to IMDB: Initech Jun 2013 #46
Really? NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #48
Oh. For. Fucks'. Sake. burnodo Jun 2013 #26
They've been doing that on Star Trek for ages davidn3600 Jun 2013 #30
Star Trek SamKnause Jun 2013 #31
I have a feeling he and his following are still disturbed by ... napkinz Jun 2013 #32
His only problem with that is that it's fornication XemaSab Jun 2013 #38
Does cross-breeding with Neanderthals count as bestiality? DetlefK Jun 2013 #34
maybe we should put up warning signs: Don't Pet The Tribbles! napkinz Jun 2013 #37
Waiting for Pastor Kevin Swanson to create his own movie AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #41
It's fucking amazing this ass gets paid a salary RainDog Jun 2013 #42
bestiality????? suddenly those old episodes i have on vhs just got a lot hotter dembotoz Jun 2013 #43
Mr Spock, as usual, has a logical response to the pastor. edbermac Jun 2013 #44
But... conceiving a child with a deity is *not* bestiality? Orrex Jun 2013 #47
 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
2. Ugh.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jun 2013

That guy has no knowledge whatsoever on the nature of evolution. Breeding, even on the generational scale, doesn't provide evolution, heterosexual or otherwise.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
4. I am not sure I watched the same movie
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jun 2013

The pastor watched...he must be from Ryker's alternate universe where Ryker is an admiral.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
18. I'm guessing he's referring to Spock and Uhura
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jun 2013

Or maybe Kirk and the two women with tails in the beginning of the film. Who knows, he's still an idiot.

Wounded Bear

(58,773 posts)
5. Other than the whole "cross species mating leads to evolution" thingy...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jun 2013

I suppose this is a well thought out scientific treatise.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
6. People who know nothing about evolution...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jun 2013

...should STFU about it.

Anyway, does he not understand the concept of fiction?

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
27. Maybe he thought is was a documentary.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:26 PM
Jun 2013

How else do you explain his inability to separate reality from 'it's just a movie?'

TYY

Buns_of_Fire

(17,213 posts)
12. IIRC, James T. Kirk is renowned for trying to mate with EVERY species.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jun 2013

And a couple of vegetables and minerals, too. That's why Star Fleet finally mandated that all food served on Federation starships be liberally laced with saltpeter -- with a double dose for the revered Admiral.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,382 posts)
17. The REAL drag is they had no Holodeck on the 1701A.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:14 PM
Jun 2013

Imagine what he could have done in his spare time.......

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
11. I'm not sure that...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:44 PM
Jun 2013

being a far right Christian and being a complete and utter moron are really all that different.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. The movie promotes lazy story-telling, that's all.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:06 PM
Jun 2013

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[font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font]
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antigone382

(3,682 posts)
21. Dude, we have to silence this guy. Now that he has unlocked the secret of evolution...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:34 PM
Jun 2013

He is this close to blowing the lid off the SECRET LIBERAL HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA 21 Of breeding humans with other species to create an awesome super race. Imagine humans and turtles: how sustainable would it be if we all carried condos ON OUR BACKS? WHILE DRINKING LATTES?

Nevermind that evolution generally actually works when species *diverge and become unable to reproduce with one another.*

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
24. My moral objections about this new "Star Trek"...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:22 PM
Jun 2013

have nothing to do with this guy's mating habits. I just can't get into a new "Captain Kirk." Also, couldn't they at least give Shatner a cameo in the first one? The gave Nimoy a cameo.

FWIW, I'm also disturbed by the fact that Picard buried Kirk under a pile of rocks in "Generations."

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
25. In Generations I was disturbed by one very obvious flaw
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jun 2013

They could return to any time they wanted which means they could have saved many more lives and they chose to go back to that one moment.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
28. No kidding!
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jun 2013

The producers had to do some serious mental backflips to get through that particular script without ripping it up and starting over. It's my least favorite Star Trek movie of either series.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
40. To be fair, the Federation has a temporal prime directive....
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:55 PM
Jun 2013

...like, they aren't suppose to really be changing time, if avoidable.

Initech

(100,138 posts)
46. According to IMDB:
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:36 PM
Jun 2013

Shatner was supposed to have a cameo role in the first but couldn't because of a scheduling conflict.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
48. Really?
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 07:31 AM
Jun 2013

That caught me by surprise. I thought that Shatner wanted a cameo but wasn't offered one. This may change my whole point of view on these movies.

Thanks for the info.

SamKnause

(13,114 posts)
31. Star Trek
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jun 2013

On one hand we have the psychopaths that control everything on this planet; countries, governments, corporations, Wall Street, global banks, energy supplies, food supplies, the ability to communicate, wealth and militaries.

On the other hand we have the religious delusional people; The Pope, Kevin Swanson, Pat Robertson, Rick Warren, Ted Haggard, Douglas Coe, etc., who control the masses and promote ignorance, fear and hate.

Group one and group two often operate hand in hand.

Could this explain why the world is in the shape it is ?

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
38. His only problem with that is that it's fornication
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:49 PM
Jun 2013

since they weren't married.

There are a surprising number of interracial marriages (including his own) and a lot of interracial adoptions in that group.

YES, some of them are flaming racists, but it's fringy, even in that group.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
41. Waiting for Pastor Kevin Swanson to create his own movie
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jun 2013

About a Star Ship that travels to Heaven and meets God and the Angels... in 3... 2...1.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
42. It's fucking amazing this ass gets paid a salary
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jun 2013

how fucking stupid do you have to be to support someone who spouts this utterly idiotic nonsense?

America. Land of the religulous.

dembotoz

(16,865 posts)
43. bestiality????? suddenly those old episodes i have on vhs just got a lot hotter
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jun 2013

I had always thought they were normal women only perhaps green.....

but now.... WOW

Orrex

(63,263 posts)
47. But... conceiving a child with a deity is *not* bestiality?
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:48 PM
Jun 2013

IMO it obviously would be, at least from the deity's perspective.


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