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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFacebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Just Vehemently Denied Giving The Government Direct Access To Facebook
http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-denies-prism-story-2013-6?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+businessinsider%2Fpolitics+%28Business+Insider+-+Politix%29The claim that the FBI and National Security Agency are "tapping directly into the central servers" of the country's biggest technology companies to spy on their users looks ever more suspect.
Most of the major companies have now explicitly denied participating in such a program. Apple, Facebook, and Google have denied all knowledge of it.
An hour ago, Google CEO Larry Page published a blog post blasting the very idea that Google would do this.
And now Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has done the same:
*Zuckerberg quote at link above*
Skittles
(153,298 posts)Initech
(100,139 posts)Zuckerberg didn't really earn his fortune. He got really rich really quickly but he stabbed a lot of people in the back to get it.
Skittles
(153,298 posts)even though I LOVE Jesse Eisenberg
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)uponit7771
(90,371 posts)...fully vet so...yeah....aint never happened.... /sarcasm
JI7
(89,287 posts)BenzoDia
(1,010 posts)Cha
(298,016 posts)going with this?
thanks steve
bunnies
(15,859 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)There could be any sort of deliberate intermediary, along the lines of Palantir or something else entirely. These massive data centers and legal arguments for spying are not being constructed to store Freecell scores.
We are being fed a lot of carefully worded bullshit, and we'd better demand clarity. No "direct" access to "central servers" is not reassuring at all, except to those who are looking to shut down this conversation sooner rather than later.
Is this who runs Prism?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022964378
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)They're all saying they have not given the govt "direct access to our servers." Note that they don't say what access they gave, if there was a third party who passed over the server info, if they did, or what.
Don't be fooled by terms with no definitions. Look behind the talking point words.
Disclaimer: I'm not judging these cos for abiding by a court order; I'm just pointing out to look behind words that haven't been defined, and that don't explicitly say what they did give the govt access to.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)Having worked for a major networking equipment manufacturer I can tell you that a back door for the gov is REQUIRED to be built into every router/switch etc that we sell.
once the gov has access to your network, they gain access to all your data, no need to go onto any individual server.
so i guess technically he isn't lying, cept through omission.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)Facebook charges for their data on demographics, psychographics, timeline data and everything else. That's their business model, period.
I wouldn't doubt all these assholes who are into data mining "charge" the gubint by getting enormous tax breaks.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)And how and under what circumstances Facebook would provide information.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)We are being fed a load of bull.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)jmowreader
(50,589 posts)To tell the truth, I am FAR more worried about Facebook's data collection techniques than I am about the NSA's. I know that everyone on Facebook has clicked "I Approve" of Facebook's policies but let's be real: who actually reads those things? And because you approved this thing you did not read, Zuckerberg has carte blanche to crawl up your ass, figure out what you had for breakfast yesterday, and sell the information to a cereal company.