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We all know that there aren't enough people in the government to listen to every single phone call or read every single email or internet post...
And the ridiculous thing about it is that the real bad guys will just work out codes that the computers won't pick up on and so that's not very helpful in the "war against terror"...
But what WILL happen is that openly organizing any kind of mass dissent will become impossible because nobody can talk to each other once the PTB pick up on a handful of people and start watching for patterns in their calls....and start tracking them on their cell phones...and intercepting their emails...all that stuff will be stored in utah soon...
The only way to have a private conversation with anyone would be to go out into a remote area without cellphones, in a vehicle without the new black boxes, and hope the drones don't find you...
This is the track this country has been on since Bush stole the WH, and if it is not stopped NOW this country is going to be an open-air prison!
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Period. We know this. This why "probable cause" is the standard for searching the private information of American citizens.
It's not okay because Bush started it.
It's not better because Obama says there are "safeguards."
Snooping in secret WILL be used for political gain, monetary gain, revenge, repression, humiliation.
Opaque government, which just happens to be the opposite of a core Obama campaign plank, is by definition non-democratic government.
If everything's so hunky dory, show us. What's the legal standard being used? What's been searched? What's been analyzed?
"Just trust us" does not cut it. Never has. Never will.
meow2u3
(24,776 posts)from My Fellow Americans, the rogue NSA agent who ordered a hit on Presidents Kramer and Douglas.
http://www.subzin.com/quotes/My+Fellow+Americans/Good+afternoon,+sirs.+Colonel+Paul+Tanner,+NSA
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)With informants everywhere. Too bad the constitution has been relegated to 'just a piece of paper' by gwb.