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roamer65

(36,747 posts)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:04 PM Jun 2013

So...you're sitting in a big jackpot lottery tix line...

Last edited Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:00 PM - Edit history (1)

...and thru whatever circumstances, someone lets you go in front of them through politeness. You then win the big jackpot. Moral dilemma time.

What would you do?

I'm interested in hearing the answers to this one...LOL.

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So...you're sitting in a big jackpot lottery tix line... (Original Post) roamer65 Jun 2013 OP
If I was getting a quick pick, I would say boston bean Jun 2013 #1
It's RANDOM. There is not a predetermined list of selections that the machine is working through. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #2
^this RudynJack Jun 2013 #12
+1000! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #20
If I won $500 million dollars... htuttle Jun 2013 #3
LOL! Steampunk Ending for the WIN! Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #7
I like you already!! roamer65 Jun 2013 #16
You might be the person in front of a loser jberryhill Jun 2013 #4
It doesn't matter thelordofhell Jun 2013 #5
Tell them you want the same number the last guy got Dreamer Tatum Jun 2013 #6
But you're screwing yourself KamaAina Jun 2013 #21
Treu, but suppose you wanted to an a-hole Dreamer Tatum Jun 2013 #37
It's not really the dickish. Sorry to burst your bubble. ScreamingMeemie Jun 2013 #33
The Gift Tax erpowers Jun 2013 #8
No gift tax when you partition money at ticket redemption. roamer65 Jun 2013 #10
I'd find the person and give them one million bucks BlueJazz Jun 2013 #9
IMO...I agree with you. roamer65 Jun 2013 #14
I'm an Atheist but I have to say "Bless You". After reading the posts on this thread, my thoughts... BlueJazz Jun 2013 #15
I was a little surprised by the selfishness shown in the other posts as well. W_HAMILTON Jun 2013 #38
The old lady that won does not Jenoch Jun 2013 #11
The first person would have gotten a different number, anyway brentspeak Jun 2013 #13
The chances that the young mother Jenoch Jun 2013 #32
A BlueJazz Jun 2013 #17
I would be hunting down that person LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #18
How would you know who the person was? we can do it Jun 2013 #19
I would track the person down and give them some money. LeftofObama Jun 2013 #22
Drama wise...this one could well be worth the money I spent. roamer65 Jun 2013 #23
Actually..it IS a damn good post! BlueJazz Jun 2013 #24
I love the flag, btw. roamer65 Jun 2013 #25
You don't sit in those types of lines, you stand. liberal N proud Jun 2013 #26
If that person was identified, I would write them a big check. forestpath Jun 2013 #27
The winner told people about the woman who let her go ahead... Gin Jun 2013 #28
I'd give her $10,000,000 n/t bbinacan Jun 2013 #29
I don't see any "moral dilemma." Maybe the other person chose her own numbers. (You aren't from the WinkyDink Jun 2013 #30
Had to explain it to my wife CANDO Jun 2013 #31
I'd find the person who let me in front of him or her meow2u3 Jun 2013 #34
I don't play the lottery regardless of the size of the jackpot. But, in the situation bluestate10 Jun 2013 #35
It depends. Chances are that you have no idea who the person who let you in front of them is MiniMe Jun 2013 #36
I don't see how morals play into it. NCTraveler Jun 2013 #39

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
2. It's RANDOM. There is not a predetermined list of selections that the machine is working through.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:06 PM
Jun 2013

Letting someone in the line does not change anything.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
3. If I won $500 million dollars...
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jun 2013

I would ride around in a zeppelin dropping dollar bills on people. The person that had been behind me in line could surely gather some up...

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. You might be the person in front of a loser
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jun 2013

As noted, it wouldn't have made a "difference", since it would have been an entirely different universe. The person in front would not have gotten the winning ticket if they hadn't switched.

This is not, btw, the "Monty Hall" problem.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
5. It doesn't matter
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jun 2013

If the person didn't let her cut, then you have to judge the time difference of what happened and that would probably mean (if these are quick picks we're talking about) they both would have gotten different numbers...........

(but I'd pay off all that person's debt +20 grand....if I knew who they were)

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
6. Tell them you want the same number the last guy got
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:11 PM
Jun 2013

They can do that. I do it all the time just to be a dick.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
37. Treu, but suppose you wanted to an a-hole
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:24 AM
Jun 2013

and you know someone plays a certain number.

How funny is it to buy not just one, but two tickets of the same number and tell them?

Heh.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
33. It's not really the dickish. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:24 PM
Jun 2013

I worked at a convenience store and you just hit a repeat button. At least, here in TX, that's what we do.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
8. The Gift Tax
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jun 2013

I was thinking about starting a post stating that the woman who won the jackpot should give the lady who let her go ahead of her in the line $20 million. Then I remembered she would have to pay the gift tax if she gave her that much money.

So I guess the woman should try to do something for that lady and her family. Maybe she could set up a scholarship fund for the lady's children. Maybe she could give the lady and her family an amount of money that would not spark a gift tax until the lady died or until the money ran out.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
10. No gift tax when you partition money at ticket redemption.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:24 PM
Jun 2013

Looked at the forms for my state, since I have on occasion ran a lottery pool. It gets divided up as you or a group sees fit and is taxed for each person given a chunk at the normal rate.

Good info to know in case you ever do win, especially in a pool.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
9. I'd find the person and give them one million bucks
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:24 PM
Jun 2013

Yes, Yes, Yes..I know the quick pick is random and all that and even studied some Statistical analysis in college but
I would still think that maybe, just maybe, I would not have hit the big one if the person had not let me go ahead.

It's the right thing to do.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
14. IMO...I agree with you.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jun 2013

My personal nature is I would definitely reward that person for their random act of kindness.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
15. I'm an Atheist but I have to say "Bless You". After reading the posts on this thread, my thoughts...
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:37 PM
Jun 2013

..were: I didn't know that so many DUer's were such selfish (add your own word here)

Unbelievable. DU HAS changed in the past few years.

W_HAMILTON

(7,878 posts)
38. I was a little surprised by the selfishness shown in the other posts as well.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jun 2013

I, too, would give the person that allowed me to go ahead of them a substantial amount as a gesture of kindness. $1m sounds like an appropriate thank you gift.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
11. The old lady that won does not
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:25 PM
Jun 2013

owe the young mom a thing legally. It would make her look good if she woud give her some money, maybe a trust fund for her children and future children (if any) to pay for education expences.

I'll will also chime in and say that the first reporter who tracked down the mother who let the lady in line in front of her created a non-story. She did not give up her place in line only to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. The Powerball quick picks are completely random. Those numbers the lady got were not sitting in the terminal waiting for somebody to buy a quickpick. The lotteries use a random number generator and it is affected by the entire network of manchines in each Powerball state.

The Powerball winner is already 84. The real big life changes are for her heirs. What happens to big lottery winners is this, if they are basically good people before they have big money, it should make them an even better person, if they were basically a bad person with a questionable personality, the big money will make them even worse. The money doesn't change them, it magnifies who they already were.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
13. The first person would have gotten a different number, anyway
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jun 2013

Lottery numbers are generated randomly, with each digit in a game 'spinning' from 1-to-max number on the order of millions-per-second. The chances that the person who relinquished their place in line would have received the exact same lottery number as the eventual winner are astronomical.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
32. The chances that the young mother
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:21 PM
Jun 2013

would have hit the win ing numbers if the old lady had not cut in line are the same as if the old lady did not change her place in line.

All the reporters and media reporting the story as if this mom gave up winning the Powerball ticket are morans.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
22. I would track the person down and give them some money.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jun 2013

As others have said, you don't legally owe them anything, but Karma says you do.

liberal N proud

(60,349 posts)
26. You don't sit in those types of lines, you stand.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jun 2013

And the chance that someone lets you go in front of them is the same as winning the lottery.


Gin

(7,212 posts)
28. The winner told people about the woman who let her go ahead...
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jun 2013

If she had kept quiet we would not have known.......since she brought it up......a generous check would be a nice gesture...

IMO

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
30. I don't see any "moral dilemma." Maybe the other person chose her own numbers. (You aren't from the
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jun 2013

U.S., right? Because you would know, then, that we don't "sit" in lines.)

 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
31. Had to explain it to my wife
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 08:09 PM
Jun 2013

The winning ticket was a RANDOM. Doesn't matter if it was the first one or the very last ticket purchased. When you step to the counter and ask for quick picks, the puter randomly spits out numbers. It matters not when you stepped to the counter.

meow2u3

(24,775 posts)
34. I'd find the person who let me in front of him or her
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jun 2013

and give'em 10% of my after tax winnings--subject to nothing but a gift tax.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
35. I don't play the lottery regardless of the size of the jackpot. But, in the situation
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jun 2013

that you mentioned, if the person became known to me and I recognized that person, I would share enough of my new found wealth to make that person comfortable for life.

MiniMe

(21,722 posts)
36. It depends. Chances are that you have no idea who the person who let you in front of them is
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jun 2013

If I did know who it was, I would probably give them a cut of the winnings.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
39. I don't see how morals play into it.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:45 AM
Jun 2013

Seems more like some want to guilt the winner into coughing some up. I think they are the ones dealing with the moral dilemma.

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