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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"I found a boy curled up in the fetal position with a red dot on his back."
Good news! The gun's going to be O.K.!
As the Associated Press notes, the girl's 14-year-old sibling was babysitting at the time, and no adults were present. After the shot rang out shortly after 4 p.m., adults nearby ran to the garage and discovered Klyaz had been shot in the chest. Police found a 9 mm semi-automatic at the scene.
"I heard a loud pop and said that didnt sound good, a neighbor told Fox 5 News San Diego. I found a boy curled up in the fetal position with a red dot on his back it looked like a gun shot.
Klyaz's parents also rushed to the garage, which residents dubbed more of a playhouse for kids in the complex, and discovered he was not breathing. The 10-year-old's father cradled his son while others attempted CPR, U-T San Diego reports.
Read More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/san-diego-accidental-shooting-boy-killed_n_3391185.html
Cirque du So-What
(26,020 posts)Is it somehow less saddening and infuriating when it's only one or two of these horrible stories every day than if it occurs en masse, as in the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre? Are we somehow oblivious to the concept of cumulative effects?
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Cirque du So-What
(26,020 posts)The Sandy Hook Elementary massacre is fading into memory, apparent in the steady decline in conversations related to gun regulation. We should be thankful for stalwart individuals like Robb who remind us that tragedy is ongoing and does not begin and end with media-grabbing mass murders. It's happening every single day, and for each family who loses a child to carelessness with firearms, the pain is no less significant.
DreamGypsy
(2,252 posts)...if you want to immerse yourself in the daily ongoing tragedy.
Here's the link: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html
Current count is 4800.
Nice graphic representation with a representative figure for every death. Click on the figure to get name and age, plus a link to a source article reporting the shooting.
You can filter for female/male deaths, age of deceased adult, teen (3-19), or child (0-12), location, and range of dates.
A US map showing the locations of the deaths and you can select the city or state you're interested in to get a count.
It keeps the memories alive, though the victims are dead.
(NB: currently 6/4/2013 shows two 10 year old boys killed, one being Eric Klyaz, the other unnamed. The both represent the same shooting. I emailed Slate about this and expect they will correct the data soon.)
Robb
(39,665 posts)It seems like it was *just* at 1,000.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)...but I have an appreciation for your fine sense of the absurd when it comes to the gun insanity that has taken over in many quarters. Thank god the gun is ok, and will have more opportunities to celebrate the 2nd Amendment.
malaise
(269,244 posts)for murder
marble falls
(57,405 posts)as the neighborhood kids hang-out.
But it gets worse. The mother of a kid shot and killed at a birthday party set two pitbulls onto a reporter.
malaise
(269,244 posts)marble falls
(57,405 posts)malaise
(269,244 posts)Thanks
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)charge the parents. That is the only way this will stop.
Anyone that stupid...did they really love their kid? You can't think they really cared.
renate
(13,776 posts)And another story that is even sadder, to me anyway, that's referred to at the bottom of that article: an 11-year-old boy was shot as he was trying to get a gun away from younger children.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/15/-jarvan-jackson-11-year-old-shot-_n_3278506.html
onehandle
(51,122 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)One thing that is so sad about so many of these cases is that so many of the adults involved in these cases do such a bad job of keeping these guns from children. First, if there are guns in a home they should be secured in a way in which young children cannot get their hands on them. Second, parents should teach their kids that guns are not toys, should not be played with, and should not be pointed at anyone even if not loaded. At this point, I will admit that parents can try to teach their kids not to play with guns and the kids could do so anyway. In those cases that is why guns need to be secured in a way that kids cannot to them, mainly in locked boxes.
Rainforestgoddess
(436 posts)I simply cannot understand American gun culture. It is so fucking twisted.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)rurallib
(62,471 posts)titanicdave
(429 posts)will never end as long as the NRA has bought and paid for congress......God Almighty this gets more disgusting every day when we read something like this.....parents, friends, and relatives who leave loaded guns where young kids can get a hold of them should be brought up on child neglection charges.....
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Now we can't even get a background check because we want to give a segment of our population the notion that they can load up the pick-um-up truck with beer and ammo and take over Washington DC.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)11 Bravo
(23,928 posts)While we disagree about some aspects of the gun debate, we are in complete accord on the need for some restrictions (background checks, high-capacity magazines, trigger locks, and more).
So I'll say it again; God love you for doing the legwork, finding the accounts of the never-ending stream of senseless tragedies, and putting them out there, thereby forcing the Wayne LaPierre type zealots to come face-to-face with the harsh realities of their lunacy.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)LOADED guns. OK if your going to keep weapons secure the clips and bullets.
Can the NRA at least push an aggressive safety program for the guns that are out there?
deaniac21
(6,747 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)Duh I guess I asked the stupid question, 'why loaded guns?' But I couldn't stop my fingers from typing it....
This is so sad to read.
BainsBane
(53,093 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)These are real people, real deaths. It shouldn't be swept under the rug because the media is in the hands of the gun industry and glorifies violence.
It has done so for many years, like they used to do with cigars and cigarettes. They have been using the world's most powerful psychological teaching method, the moving picture with sounds and music to impress this on our brains.
They taught generations that gun or other violence is the only solution to a problem. Or the injuries they do is not as bad as we know they are in real life. It looks so clean and easy, and they even manipulate the viewer so that they get angry at the bad guy or whoever, and feel good seeing that person be killed.
There is hardly any leading man, or woman, that is not forced to act as if carrying a gun is like wearing shoes or a hat. And that the use of the gun is somehow sexy and a sign of personal power and what an adult does.
Is it any wonder that a child doesn't want to find out how it feels to handle one, to be grow up and be an effective human being, when they are exposed to them all the time?
I used to be much more open about the Second Amendment and the right to carry. I know that some people feel they need them for protection. But we're being herded into a society that is going to be horrific if current trends continue. So much hate for others, so much violence.