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Robb

(39,665 posts)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:33 AM Jun 2013

Shooters' self-esteem is NOT inextricably linked to their weapons, so stop saying that!

Florida bouncer shoots, kills three friends who ‘punked’ him after he misfired gun on video

They made fun of him for misfiring his gun — so a Florida bouncer shot and killed three of his colleagues, police say.

The senseless shooting Sunday stemmed from a filmed incident, a prank that caused the killer to harbor “ill will towards the three since this had occurred,” police said in a statement.

After being “punked” by his co-workers, Andrew Joseph “Punchy” Lobban, 31, was allegedly so upset that he shot Josue “Sway” Santiago, 25, Benjamin Larz Howard, 23, and Jerry Lamar Bynes Jr., 20, outside an Ocala nightclub early Sunday morning.

The men weren’at working at the time and reportedly were friends. But the incident at a shooting range, when Lobban misfired his gun, was caught on tape and apparently humiliated the accused murderer, Ocala Police Department spokeswoman Sgt. Angy Scroble told the Ocala Star Banner. The slay victims reportedly teased the hulking accused killer about the incident.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/fla-bouncer-punk-3-friends-kills-article-1.1361664#ixzz2VFZkgcpf
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Shooters' self-esteem is NOT inextricably linked to their weapons, so stop saying that! (Original Post) Robb Jun 2013 OP
gun nutz are a little sensitive mikeysnot Jun 2013 #1
especially when they 'misfire'. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #2
premature evacuation of their mikeysnot Jun 2013 #11
Anyone else think...just maybe universal background checks aren't enough? jmg257 Jun 2013 #3
"Responsible gun owners" no doubt. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #4
Wow. Horrifying. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #5
This is why having access to an instrument that causes instant death at any moment is a bad idea stevenleser Jun 2013 #6
+ billions and billions BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #9
The problem is that they weren't armed when they insulted a gun humper. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #7
Root cause: Bullying, not the gun. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #8
Ready access to a gun made response deadly for his 3 "friends". kiranon Jun 2013 #10
hair trigger temper mikeysnot Jun 2013 #12

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
3. Anyone else think...just maybe universal background checks aren't enough?
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 10:16 AM
Jun 2013

Guns don't kill people. Dumbasses with guns kill people.

SunSeeker

(51,797 posts)
5. Wow. Horrifying.
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 11:26 AM
Jun 2013

He didn't just kill 3 young men, he destroyed four families (including his own). But hey, he showed them he can shoot without misfiring, so he obviously thought it was worth it.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. This is why having access to an instrument that causes instant death at any moment is a bad idea
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jun 2013

Lose your temper and the actions you take are permanent.

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
8. Root cause: Bullying, not the gun.
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jun 2013

It's quite a clear-cut case that the bouncer was suffering from a tease gone too far and who felt he had no recourse in relief of his distress. Yeah, he killed three people in cold blood, but the "gun" didn't cause this. Something makes me think that the bouncer would bludgeon these guys with a tire iron if that's all he could get his hands on.

This is a clear demonstration of the notion that the best remedy for the dissolution of firearm violence is in addressing the root causes of said violence, namely mental health and overall life wellness.

Also, goes to show that no matter how well you may know a friend, if you push them too far (even without knowing it), they can still snap at the slightest provocation. A tragic outcome for all involved.


(To preempt the question: "Teasing" becomes "Bullying" when said teasing causes direct emotional distress. "They were just teasing" won't cut it here; the bouncer was apparently rather upset by said "teasing".)

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
10. Ready access to a gun made response deadly for his 3 "friends".
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 02:59 PM
Jun 2013

There may have been no way to stop the bouncer's violence from coming out once he was sufficiently provoked. Sad situation.

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