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(Reuters) - The fertilizer plant that exploded on Wednesday, obliterating part of a small Texas town and killing at least 14 people, had last year been storing 1,350 times the amount of ammonium nitrate that would normally trigger safety oversight by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
Yet a person familiar with DHS operations said the company that owns the plant, West Fertilizer, did not tell the agency about the potentially explosive fertilizer as it is required to do, leaving one of the principal regulators of ammonium nitrate - which can also be used in bomb making - unaware of any danger there.
Fertilizer plants and depots must report to the DHS when they hold 400 lb (180 kg) or more of the substance. Filings this year with the Texas Department of State Health Services, which weren't shared with DHS, show the plant had 270 tons of it on hand last year.
A U.S. congressman and several safety experts called into question on Friday whether incomplete disclosure or regulatory gridlock may have contributed to the disaster.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/20/us-usa-explosion-regulation-idUSBRE93J09N20130420
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)This explosion was caused by all sorts of negligence on the corporate side of the ledger.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)...but negligence on the part of our government to provide oversight,
and enforce regulations.
Thank You, Ronald Reagan, and every president since Reagan (Republican & Democrat),
for the systematic defunding and dismantling of our Government Oversight Agencies.
indepat
(20,899 posts)a society not much burdened with governmental regulation, intrusion, and oversight. The capitalists in America must be free to rake in and retain most of their profits, paying little taxes, and the losses they create through negligence, greed, and destruction of the environment will be socialized. The stark fruits of this laizze-faire approach to governance abound for all of us to see.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)at that plant.
emulatorloo
(44,183 posts)dballance
(5,756 posts)The plant hadn't been inspected for far too long. This obviously creates a sense of security that they won't be caught if they do something they shouldn't. This is because there are not enough inspectors. Why? Because when the GOP can't kill the regulations they starve the agencies tasked with enforcing the regulations of funds. This ensures just what happened in West. No money to employ enough inspectors means no inspections. Just as effective as killing the regulations all together.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)OSHA is stretched so thin that very few workplaces ever get inspected for violations.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)not Homeland Security.
Just to make that clear so this is a separate inspection by Homeland security.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)inspect labor violations, I believe the safety of the whole facility would have been better. Also, they may have notified HS about potential danger. I also think that HS must be strapped for inspectors too with all this austerity policy the Repubs are imposing on is.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)further down in the article. which gets into who does what with this shit to make sure its safe.
BTW.. not on your case
wanted to point out the jurisdiction knowledge for our lay readers.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)believe. It seems there has been no inspection since then.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)I think they were fined before and paid a whopping 30 bucks.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)Oh those wacky Rethuglicans!
Always ready to blame their own stupidity and greed on excessive regulation, big government, the Federal Deficit, Social Security or whichever of their other false boogeymen fits the bill.
1KansasDem
(251 posts)Sorry, that's a ridiculous regulation. I'll bet 70-80% of farmers have 10 times that amount in a shed at one time or another.
Ammonium nitrate is so common at COOP's in rural area's that no one thought a thing of Tim McVey buying a couple thousand pounds of it at my local COOP.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)unreported so what do you think the limit should be?
1KansasDem
(251 posts)270 tons was reported to the state.
My beef is the 400 lb barrier FOR reporting to DHS.
Whoever came up with that small amount has no understanding of the use of this product in rural america.
Would you scoff at a regulation requiring the reporting of the storage of 10 gallons or more of
gasoline??
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)Texas being run by a bunch greedy repukes and business types probably doesn't give a shit that this happened....it will happen again unless there are serious penalties and huge oversight. But that takes everyone bitching and omaning about it til something happens!
northoftheborder
(7,574 posts)....he is elder in his church, and otherwise worthy citizen who has contributed much to his town. This does NOT, in my opinion, justify any omission, either by accident or on purpose, of rules of safety and reporting necessary in this type of plant. There definitely needs to be a good thorough inspection of this whole facility and it's operation by the feds. (not state regiulators).
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...to the disaster, it was certainly criminal.
I await charges against company officials.
(not holding my breath though)