What don't you need a license for?

[DainBramaged]

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	Driving a car
	1 (13%)
	Practicing Medicine (all)
	0 (0%)
	Flying a plane
	0 (0%)
	Fishing
	1 (13%)
	Hunting
	0 (0%)
	Getting married
	0 (0%)
	Owning a gun
	4 (50%)
	Teaching
	2 (25%)
	Practicing Law
	0 (0%)
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[michreject]

1. Which one in the above list

Is Constitutionally protected?

[DainBramaged]

3. That's not the question, but since you must spew, go right ahead

anythng else you'd like to enlighten us about??

[hack89]

11. Cars and guns are licensed exactly the same way.

and you know it - this is certainly not a new argument.

[michreject]

13. I don't believe that a license is required

For home schooling. -You become the teacher

Hunting- If on you private land/farm and killing predator animals.

Cars (as you mentioned)- in used on private land.

[Go Vols]

128. Yep

I can hunt,fish and drive on my land without a license.

[csziggy]

137. Ah, but in Florida a car on private land still has to have a tag

Even if it doesn't run.

No license is needed to operate it on private land, but the car has to have an up to date tag - which also means it has to be insured since you can't buy a tag for a vehicle without proof of insurance.

Found this out when storing a truck for a friend - I almost got a ticket for his dead truck which he had taken the tag off to use on a different one.

[Bay Boy]

152. Storing it where?

In your garage or your driveway?

[csziggy]

169. The truck was parked behind a storage building

Not visible from the street but a sheriff deputy had stopped in about something else and noticed the truck had no tag. He was nice and only gave me a verbal warning.

The guy who owned the truck had made a deal to store stuff in part of my storage building. He filled the entire space and parked the truck and some other equipment behind the building without my permission. Then he reneged on the promised payments. Because of health problems I was going through, it took several years before I could get him to get his crap out.

He kept telling me to sell the truck. It had no tag, the battery was bad, one tire at least was flat, and he never supplied me with a title. My own truck was having electrical problems and I had three operations in two years. I was in no position to fix his truck and certainly had no incentive to do so.

It was too bad - he had been a close friend of my husband's. But he had turned into a crackhead and right wing nut so we'd stopped socializing with him. The situation with the truck and other stuff ended our association completely.

[The Wielding Truth]

102. Dear DB, your question should read - What can't you "use" without a license. Or your answers should

read - practice medicine;drive a car;shoot a gun;etc. I think the argument would be harder to pick apart. Am I a little helpful?

[DainBramaged]

126. Thanks. I think I made my point, in spite of the 'proies' attempt to try sidetracking it.

[michreject]

6. Just a simple question

And a statement of facts.

[DainBramaged]

8. Still, wasn't the question, but I'm happy you reminded us

just in case my poll infringes on your 'rights'.



HAVE A NICE LIFE.

[michreject]

10. It doesn't

Thanks for the well wishes.

[sharp_stick]

28. Where's your militia?

I'm sure it's quite well regulated.

[Recursion]

57. It's defined in the 1947 National Security Act

as all able-bodied males between the ages of 17 and 45, and all women in the Guard and Reserve. In addition, the states have individually legally defined their militias (militiae?).

It's shockingly un-regulated, and Congress and the states should do something about that.

[michreject]

95. Sitting on the couch

With his feet on a foot stool. typing.

[baldguy]

33. The Post Office

[michreject]

94. My reading skills may not be as superior to yours

But I don't see that on the list.

Would you be kind enough to point it out?

[baldguy]

113. Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the Constitution.

[DainBramaged]

127. Doesn't it suck having to point out the Constitution they all claim to love so much...

[baldguy]

131. They even tend to forget over half of their favorite Amendment.

It's the important half, too.

[DainBramaged]

163. They've run out of talking points

when all they've got is driving around on private property, they've dried up the well.

[DrDan]

155. but that "protection" can be restricted

[hack89]

2. Driving my car on private property. nt

[DainBramaged]

5. Of course, I was expecting the swarm, but not this early in the thread

[hack89]

9. When you post flawed and disingenuous posts polls, what do you expect?

guns and cars are licensed exactly the same. Don't need a license on private property, do need one to drive or carry in public.

[DainBramaged]

19. Right

Just how many states require you get a 'license' to own a gun?



How many state's require you to show your driver's license to BUY a gun? And if you don't need a license to drive a car on private property, how do you get a gun? Oh wait, the gun show loophole, I forgot.




Your attempt at trying to prove you're smarter than the rest of us failed miserably.

[hack89]

24. Concealed carry permits are the 'license' to carry in public.

you don't need a license to buy a car. You just need one to drive it on public roads.

[michreject]

27. I don't need to show a DL when buying a gun

I show my carry permit. No background check at point of sale either.

[OGKush]

72. No background check at point of sale because background check was already done to get

Your carry permit.

[michreject]

96. Correct

Good for 5 years.

[sylvi]

48. Don't you love it

Don't you love it when an anti posts a gun thread, and when some pro-2A liberals have the unmitigated audacity to respond to it, treats it like some kind of "ah-HA moment"?

[DainBramaged]

78. an anti

well, when you insult folks who disagree with your stance, I guess we can call you a gun fool?

[sylvi]

101. I guess you can

since the pro-2Aers have been called pretty much everything in the book around here.

[Paladin]

12. Aw, Be Gentle.

That "Driving my car on private property" thing is what passes for a really convincing argument amongst the Gun Enthusiasts. Don't hurt their feelings.

[hack89]

15. But you need a license to carry a gun in public

so the OP was a fundamentally dishonest framing of the issue.

The truth is that guns and cars are licensed exactly the same. You do not need a license to drive or own a gun on private property. You do need a license to drive or carry a gun in public.

[DainBramaged]

21. Oh, so I'm fundamentally dishonest because you don't like the poll?

How is your precious toiday, warm? Polished? Oiled?

[hack89]

26. Your poll is dishonest. You know that cars and guns are licensed in a similar manner

My wife and family are fine. Thanks for asking.

[DainBramaged]

30. fOLKS THAT don't CONCEAL CARRY but want to just buy a GUN don't need a PERMIT

or license as you are trying to infer, at gun shows and in (drum roll)


States that have been or are considering bills in current legislative sessions include Colorado, Iowa, Georgia, Kentucky, Maine, New Hampshire, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota and Virgina, according to the NRA.

South Dakota could be the fifth state to join the ranks of permit-less carry states. Lawmakers last week passed a measure allowing anyone 18 and older with a valid state driver's license to carry a concealed weapon, as long as they don't have a background that would otherwise prohibit them from getting a permit. The bill awaits action from Republican Gov. Dennis Daugaard.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-03-05/drivers-license-gun-permits/53391932/1


Who's dishonest?


You are.

Nice try at diverting the attention to CONCEALED CARRY from outright purchase. You folks do your best to muddy the waters, but the facts aren't with you.

These states require NO permit or license to buy a gun.

Alabama
Alaska,
Arizona,
Arkansas,
Colorado,
Delaware,
Florida,
Georgia,
Idaho,
Indiana,
Kansas,
Kentucky,
Louisiana,
Maine,
Mississippi,
Missouri,
Montana,
Nevada,
New Hampshire,
New Mexico,
North Carolina,
North Dakota,
Ohio,
Oklahoma,
Oregon,
Pennsylvania,
South Carolina,
South Dakota,
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
West Virginia
Wyoming


But all of these states require a license in the categories I've listed in my dishonest poll above.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state


Goodbye.

[hack89]

34. You don't need a license to buy a car either so what's your point?

It is not complicated. You don't need a license to buy a gun or a car. You don't need a license to drive a car or own a gun on private property. You do need a license to drive a car or carry a gun in public.

[DainBramaged]

38. Nice try, we're done go back to your precious

[hack89]

41. Do you need a license to buy a car? Simple question you keep avoiding.

why is that? Besides the fact it blows your argument to pieces that is?

[snooper2]

54. you still got me on ignore?

[cherokeeprogressive]

58. You need to capitalize "precious", otherwise it seems like you forgot a word.

[michreject]

97. I can buy a long gun in MI without a license

If from a private seller. It's cash and carry.

[rdharma]

104. "You do need a license to carry a gun in public

A license for open carry is only required in a very few states.

Which state are you talking about?

[hack89]

106. I was referring to concealed carry permits.

as to open carry - 11 states require licenses for open carry. 11 states do not require a license for open carry.

I do not support un-licensed open carry.

[rdharma]

107. "11 states require licenses for open carry"

You mean handguns...... right?

Only a few states require a permit for open carry of long guns.

And I agree..... unlicensed open carry is just plain DUMB!

[premium]

110. My opinion is that open carry is just plain DUMB.

It causes people to become needlessly upset.
Open carry in the wilderness? No problem, in the city? Stupid.

[rdharma]

117. Open carry in the wilderness? No problem, in the city? Stupid.

I agree.

There's something not quite right with the thinking process of folks who like to flash their weapons in public.

[hack89]

111. Yes - I meant hand guns. nt

[DainBramaged]

81. They try SO HARD but AS SOON as you say "license all guns" they go ballistic and change color

Nope, not them, shouldn't have to they are responsible, just like driving their cars in a circle on their properties.......

[Recursion]

89. Licensing gun owners and registering guns are two different things

I'm for both, but the second one gets a lot more pushback than the first one.

[DainBramaged]

90. I'm for both, and for you having as many as you want

if you're responsible, what do you have to worry about? (the same question we were asked after 9/11, if you aren't a terrorist, why worry?)


I think EVERYONE who wants to buy a gun should have a license, period. Every gun should be registered, it has NOTHING to do with gun grabbing but everything to do with safety. My homeowner's/renter's insurance ASKS if a gun is in the house. Just like if I own a dog.

Liability.

[premium]

93. Makes sense to me.

Do what IL. does, every gun owner has a FOID card, do this nationally, and I have no problem with registering weapons.

[Recursion]

108. The license idea solves the "gun show loophole" completely

I think this is one of the better things Illinois has done.

[dipsydoodle]

4. Do you still need dog licenses over there ?

UK's were abolished back in 1987.

[DainBramaged]

7. Yes, but getting people to get them is difficult

it's simply proof your dog has shots. A lot of insurance companies require it on their home owner policies now.

[dipsydoodle]

16. I assume shots refers to rabies

which the UK has been pretty free of for over 100 years due to our strict quarantine laws.

Found this for international comparison : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_licence New Zealand dogs have registration tags !

[surrealAmerican]

40. It depends on where you live.

It's generally a city or county matter, and mainly used to insure that the dogs are vaccinated for rabies. Some cities, including mine, also use licensing to limit the number of dogs an individual can keep.

[LWolf]

14. Who thinks you don't need a license for teaching? nt

[michreject]

18. Don't you become the teacher

When home schooling?

[LWolf]

22. Most states

regulate home schooling with curriculum and teacher support.

Home schooling, though, is teaching like home remedies are medicine. There's a wide range of efficacy.

[DainBramaged]

23. Nice try

homeschooling, is that the same as a well armed militia?

[dipsydoodle]

20. Is certification same as a license ?

Asking because I'm UK and you don't need a license for that here.

Aside from which it might depend on what's being taught.

[LWolf]

25. Yes.

In the U.S., certification/license requirements vary from state to state. There are different levels, and different licenses for teaching different things. It's been decades since a teaching license was good for a career. In the modern world, teachers have to continually renew their licenses. Renewal generally requires continuous professional development in the form of graduate-level classes.

[Recursion]

46. Lots of private schools will hire unlicensed teachers (nt)

[DainBramaged]

82. OH?

got links?

[duffyduff]

123. Yes, they can hire uncertified teachers, but most of them do hire licensed because the market

is so glutted with teachers.

[DainBramaged]

125. OH?

still waiting for those links....

[Straw Man]

135. Link.

"Private schools tend to hire uncertified teachers with a strong background (e.g. undergraduate major or Master's) in their desired teaching field."

https://www.amherst.edu/campuslife/careers/students/gradstudy/teaching/independent

[DainBramaged]

138. HAHAHA no, not close

[Straw Man]

140. So glad you're amused.

So you doubt their information?

Some interesting stuff here:

http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2006/2006081.pdf

And here:

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/state/teacher-certification-private-school-testing-concerns-raised-over-school-choice-bills-308982/

[Recursion]

153. Do I have to do everything around here?

Google "where can I teach without a certificate".

[LWolf]

149. I wasn't counting private schools.

Some are creditable, some not, but they can call whatever they want "teaching."

The only education, and therefore "teaching," that matters to me is PUBLIC.

[duffyduff]

122. That's basically private schools that don't have to have all their teachers be certified

but most of them do anyway.

[One_Life_To_Give]

130. Undergraduate and graduate school teachers

Don't think I have had a licensed teacher since High School.

[LWolf]

150. In public or private universities?

I know this happens, but I never experienced it.

I wasn't counting post high-school education, though. I never thought of anything any of my professors did as teaching. They lectured and assigned. By college, they provided me with information that I taught to myself.

[HockeyMom]

17. License to sell real estate or insurance

Different license to be a broker.

[Ter]

29. Unfortunately, in the abusive state I live in, you need one for all of the above

I don't think any of them should be necessary except flying a plane and practicing medicine.

[DainBramaged]

31. Well we appreciate your participation and your comment is duly noted

Are you one of them starve the guberment types?

[Ter]

164. No I'm not

However, unlike many here, I don't tow "the government is your friend" line. I want them collecting as little info on its citizens as possible.

[SayWut]

32. Which of those listed,

is specifically protected by the Bill of Rights?

[baldguy]

35. Which of those listed,

does the Constitution specifically say requires regulation?

[SayWut]

39. Regulation in what sense, usage or definition?

Hint... it's not what you think it means.

[baldguy]

43. What do you mean by "specifically protected"?

[SayWut]

47. One that enjoys it's own Constitional amendment.

[baldguy]

60. "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state." You mean that one?

Seems to me it's about security. And militias.

[DainBramaged]

63. well regulated

They don't like that part.....

[michreject]

98. Meaning armed and trained

in the time it was written.

[baldguy]

114. Meaning controlled by a duly empowered authority.

In place of a professional standing army.

[SayWut]

64. The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

As do I and the majority of Americans.

You don't have to like it, or agree with it; just accept it as a fact.

[DainBramaged]

71. Oh sorta like tough shit from a tough guy?

give us a fucking break, more NRA tough guy talk.

[OGKush]

73. Wow... You don't like anyone that disagrees with you...

[DainBramaged]

76. I like President Obama very much.....

oh well, sorry you feel that way.........PS I don't like the NRA

[OGKush]

85. You don't like the NRA, I understand. But that doesn't make someone who disagrees with you

An NRA tough guy.

Or is that just your way to discredit someone who doesn't agree with you, call them an NRA tough guy?

[DainBramaged]

87. Whatever

We don't have to accept anything, is is Democratic Underground, DEMOCRATIC Underground, not anti Underground, and if I choose to dislike someone because I should "just accept it" it's my prerogative.

Goodbye, lecture someone else.

[OGKush]

100. You're the one lecturing people who do the agree with you.

And calling them names because they don't agree with your opinion. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

[baldguy]

115. Since when do gun nuts care about what the fed govt says?

And why do they always ignore the most important part of the 2nd Amendment?

[DainBramaged]

134. It's whatever is convenient for them at the moment

or what the NRA tells them to write....

[hack89]

121. The President and party platform consider the right to bear arms an individual right

not connected to a militia. The Supreme Court agrees with them

[Dr. Strange]

36. Voting

One of the most important things you can do in a democracy--and you don't even need a license for it!

[Recursion]

45. Well I'd call registration a kind of "license"

It's as much of a "license" as a marriage license is.

[aikoaiko]

37. Keep trying.

[Paul E Ester]

42. Which one is automatically forbidden to felons?

Felons can marry, drive, teach, practice medicine, fish, hunt, practice law.

The one special punishment we reserve for felons (criminals) is the prohibition to own/possess a gun.

[Recursion]

44. You don't need a license for most of those on private property

Driving a car? No license required on private property.

Practicing medicine is a tricky one; you can actually do most things as long as you make it very clear to the patient that you have no business doing it.

Flying a plane? You can in unrestricted airspace without a passenger

Fishing? Varies by state; you can almost always fish on your own property without a license

Hunting? See fishing

Getting married? Again depends on the jurisdiction and its status on commonlaw marriage, but this one does largely require a license (though it's not a "license" in the sense of a driver's license)

Owning a gun? No; just like a car you can own it and use it on private property in general without a license, but like a car in most states there is licensing and regulation on carrying it in public

Teaching? Depends on the district; most private schools will hire people without a license.

Practicing law? See medicine: you can for the most part do it as long as you've made it clear that you have no business doing it.

[DainBramaged]

49. Right, the private property argument

One last time, when you go to buy a gun, it's obvious you HAVE to go off YOUR private property, and when you buy a gun, you have to buy it from someone else, therefore when you go to the gun store (or gun show) in the states listed, do you need a permit to buy a gun???


PS many states REQUIRE A LICENSE TO BUY A CAR, NJ IS ONE OF THEM, SO YOUR ARGUMENT THERE IS MOOT.


Your argument is circular, and for those here paid by the NRA, nice try.

[Recursion]

52. I'm not sure what you think a circular argument is, but mine isn't one

However, you can have a gun dealer ship the gun to your house, just like you can with a car dealer.

PS many states REQUIRE A LICENSE TO BUY A CAR, NJ IS ONE OF THEM

Nope. Not true. You have to have a license to register it, but you can still pay the excise and not register it if you leave it in your garage (it's generally considered a nuisance if you leave it in the open).

Anyways, this argument is important because cars are generally used entirely on public property, while guns are almost never used on public property.

Also, out of curiosity, what do you think "circular argument" means, and how on earth did you come to apply that phrase to what I said?

[DainBramaged]

62. My question was simple, because you're trying (as have others) to turn this in your favor

you've injected a completely absurd notion that JUST because you're on private property, laws don't apply.


Guess what, they do.


And in spite of what you think, in NJ, not only do you need a valid license, you also have to show insurance. The state does not give you the benefit of the doubt you will not drive the vehicle.


Have a nice day.

[hughee99]

119. Are you sure you need a valid license to BUY a car?

I don't see that anywhere on NJ's DMV page. I don't even see it as a requirement to REGISTER a car as they will take a valid license OR "appropriate identification"


http://www.dmv.org/nj-new-jersey/buy-sell/used-cars/paper-work-when-buying-a-car.php

Buying a Vehicle

When you buy a vehicle from a private seller, he or she will give you a signed-off title, which you'll also need to sign. Make sure the information on the title is correct before you sign it.
Take the title to your local MVC agency to transfer the title and register the car in your name. You'll need to show proof of insurance, the signed-off title, and a sales tax form.
You'll be required to pay 7% sales tax, unless the vehicle is exempt. Your transfer fee will be $20.
Find more details at Car Registration and Title Transfers on this site.
If you buy through a dealer, they will process the paperwork (usually for a fee).


Buying a Vehicle Without a Registration

It isn't necessary have the vehicle registered. However, the MVC states that buyer of the vehicle holds responsibility for getting the car registered after purchase.

To register the vehicle,

If you don't have help from a dealer, gather these documents before you visit the Motor Vehicle Commission (MVC):

The certificate of title. If you don’t have it, you’ll need to get a new one.
Proof of New Jersey insurance.
Proof of your Social Security number or exemption.
The current odometer reading.
Your driver’s license or, if you don’t have a New Jersey license, appropriate identification.


I mention this because a cousin of mine who can't drive (significant vision related issues) bought his daughter a car. He owns the car and pays for it. His daughter is insured on it and drives it.

[slackmaster]

56. Every state has laws that specify how a firearm can be legally transported and not qualify as...

...a loaded weapon or a concealed weapon.

It's analogous to towing a car.

[Quantess]

50. Having tons of kids.

Overpopulation is still encouraged.

[yurbud]

51. Don't or shouldn't?

[DainBramaged]

65. Don't in most states (I listed them)

[slackmaster]

53. You left out "Owning a car"

You do need a license to drive one, but in most states you don't need a license to own it.

[lonestarnot]

55. For stupid.

[slackmaster]

59. You are right. Stupid is free and forever.

[HereSince1628]

61. This depends somewhat on parsing of the difference between 'permit' and license.

For example In some places hunting requires a 'permit' not a license. In other places hunting requires a 'license' rather than a permit. In some places hunting for certain species requires a general license and a specific permit.

Being licensed hasn't always and sometimes still doesn't require specific knowledge.

The crux of the gun problem ISN'T being licensed, or even knowing certain information about the proper use and handling of a weapon.

The problem is the misuse of firearms despite often in the face of certain knowledge that threatening and/or shooting people as a means to satisfy a personal urge such as punishing, avenging, or calling attention to a personal crisis (as opposed to an emergency need for protection of human life) is morally and criminally objectionable.

[4Q2u2]

66. Heavy Equipment

Lots of states do not require a license to operate Heavy Equipment, up to and including Cranes.
Usually right to work states.

[The Straight Story]

67. Other: Writing stupid posts on the internet

[DainBramaged]

69. Oh I agree.....

[kudzu22]

68. You don't need a license to own a car

A five-year-old can own a car. The license is to drive on public roads. You don't need to register the car either if it's not driven on public roads.

[DainBramaged]

70. And what age do you have to be to buy a car? How do you prove that age (normally)

Splitting hairs, the DU way....


Google is your friend

[premium]

75. There's no age requirement to buy a car,

or drive it on private property, the age requirement and license is for driving it on public roads.

[DainBramaged]

77. Yes there is just stop

Google is your friend. Try to let your children go to a dealer and buy a car. It's called legal age, and you're wrong.


Nice of you to stop by my thread, and welcome to the DU................

[premium]

79. Thanks for the welcome.

I guess new members have to wait 5 minutes between posts.

From a licensed dealer, yes you have to be a certain age, but from a private seller, no.

I bought my first car from a neighbor for $100 dollars when I was 12. It was a 1956 Chevy station wagon and I drove it on my parents property until it finally quit running.


Whoops, you did say "normally" in an earlier post.

[DainBramaged]

80. You can't register the car till you are 18, laws have changed since B4 Nixon

In all 50 states the car has to be in the parent or legal guardian's name. And an adult CANNOT sell a minor a car, liability comes into play. YOU can buy a car and 'give' it to your kid but if he takes it off the property before he has a license, YOU get dinged.


It's all over Google.

[premium]

83. It only has to be registered if it's going to be driven on public roads,

my car was never registered or the title changed. Of course I had to have my parents permission to buy it, but I paid for it with money I earned, and I drove it on our property.

But everything you say is true concerning registering the automobile.

[cherokeeprogressive]

158. One only need be of "legal age" to sign a CONTRACT.

Got cash? If so, a three year old could buy a car.

[beevul]

146. Pointing out that you're comparing ownership to usage in public...

Pointing out that you're comparing ownership of things to usage in public of things, is not "splitting hairs".

Unless you don't know or can't differentiate between them yourself.


Is that the case?

[DainBramaged]

147. A tangent, or can't you differentiate that from the subject at hand?

Thanks for playing, nice of you to show up......and you're splitting hairs 18 hours on. I guess that's all you folks have.....

[11 Bravo]

74. I noted this post earlier and decided to check later to see if it went the way I figured it would.

It did.

[petronius]

84. 80+ posts, and everybody focused on the flame-bait poll and not the adorable puppy?

I weep for DU...

(Cute dogs, though! What kind are they? )

[DainBramaged]

91. English Bull Terriers, my favorite breed!!!

[petronius]

142. Every time this thread pops back to the top, I open it to look at the pic again

There's something just perfectly happy-making about that headbutt...

[NCTraveler]

86. So many good ops over the last couple of months for gun safety and regulation.

Then there is your op.

[DainBramaged]

88. Oh well sorry to disappoint you

I created a poll and asked simple questions, I guess you don't like that...

[libodem]

92. Duh

You need a licence for fish and game but not for teh human beans.
Just chase them down.
And call it "stand your ground".

[librechik]

99. being a parent

and there needs to be a license, IMO

[Egalitarian Thug]

103. +1 and once again, we need a like/recommend option for comments. n/t

[BainsBane]

105. Love the dogs

Are they yours?

[DainBramaged]

112. I truly wish....

[BainsBane]

129. You do have pets, don't you?

You post often in the pets group.

[DainBramaged]

133. Oh yes, and we foster dogs too....

6 cats two dogs between my sweetie and me...

[BainsBane]

154. that's great

You're clearly a devoted pet lover. I love your posts in the pet forum.

I just have one dog myself. While I don't technically have a cat, there is one who visits us alot and spends about half her time at my house. Ironically, she is much noisier than the dog, who NEVER barks inside.

[Solly Mack]

109. That photo is adorable!

[SoCalDem]

116. In actuality...none of the above, BUT if you get caught by the law doing it

you better be prepared for the consequences for all but one of them..

[arely staircase]

118. don't or shouldn't?

eom

[REP]

120. Having children

[One_Life_To_Give]

124. Teaching, I live in Mass

Can't own a firearm without an FID card. But can teach College without a license.

[HiPointDem]

136. a degree is a kind of license showing you know the subject matter.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

156. a degree and a license are separate things

you can have a medical degree and not be allowed to practice medicine. you can have a degree and not be certified to teach...

sP

[HiPointDem]

157. certification isn't required for college teachers and never has been. the degrees are the proof

that you know your subject.

the doctorate *is* the 'certification'.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

160. sorry... missed the college part

i was assuming (as i was told to) that this was public school... i guess i should read instead.

sP

[geek_sabre]

132. a few

Driving a car (on private property)
Owning a gun
Teaching (in a private school, or college)

[DainBramaged]

139. Once and for all, we are AFUCKINGSUMMING PUBLIC usage of cars and teachers in public school

this is an exercise in futility and absolute insanity. Holy shit


Jesus people, what are you going to do drive round in circles and teach from Right wing schoolbooks???

[Straw Man]

141. Correction: YOU are assuming.

"We" are assuming nothing.

But nice attempt at a goalpost move. BTW, there are private schools that hire uncertified teachers and are far from right-wing: Quaker schools, Waldorf schools, etc.

[DainBramaged]

143. Whatever, bask in your purity

I don't give a shit. About your guns either.

[Straw Man]

145. Thank you.

Whatever, bask in your purity

I shall.

I don't give a shit. About your guns either.

A little testy today, are we?

[geek_sabre]

170. Hmm

I am a teacher in a private school. Certainly not right wing. (In NYC).

Unless you're also assuming only public usage of guns, Don't get angry at me because your argument falls flat.

[DainBramaged]

144. Well gunnies, 37 to 8, nice try

have nice lives worshiping your guns.


If all you got is driving around on "your" property and a few charter/private schools using unlicensed teachers, how have you survived without critical thought so long?

[cherokeeprogressive]

159. Constant unintentional comedy gold...

Yup

[hack89]

161. Polls are good for illuminating ignorance

sorry things didn't go as you wanted. Next time perhaps you should research the laws first.

[DainBramaged]

162. Awwwwww aren't you cute.........

It accomplished exactly what I wanted. Sorry you had such weak talking points.........


Bye bye now

[hack89]

165. Proving that guns and cars are licensed in a nearly identical manner?

I don't think that is what you intended at all.

You don't need a license to own a car on private property. That is a cold hard fact you have yet to refute.

[DainBramaged]

166. Boy this really pissed you off

GOOD



Your private property argument is moot, why you ask, because I don't give a shit.


Now I put you on ignore, goodbye gunnie.

[hack89]

167. YOU pull a temper tantrum and I am the one pissed off? Ok. nt

[hack89]

168. Thanks for the childish and petty DU mail

I won't embarrass you by posting it.

[alarimer]

148. Those are not equivalent licenses

Hunting and fishing licenses exist mainly to provide funds to manage wildlife populations, and to prevent overharvesting.

To me, a gun license would be closest to a driver's license. Driver's licenses exist because cars are dangerous and you need to prove you can operate one safely before you are allowed to do so.

I am all in favor of gun licenses as well as liability insurance for gun owners.

[pintobean]

151. Posting polls on the internet. nt