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Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:50 AM

Olive oil that's not, Red Snapper that's something else

horse and donkey as beef.
What else?

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Reply Olive oil that's not, Red Snapper that's something else (Original post)
G_j Feb 2013 OP
Autumn Feb 2013 #1
cliffordu Feb 2013 #2
Autumn Feb 2013 #6
HarveyDarkey Mar 2013 #36
IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #3
madville Feb 2013 #4
GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #22
dembotoz Feb 2013 #5
Javaman Feb 2013 #7
DetlefK Feb 2013 #8
hunter Feb 2013 #29
Javaman Feb 2013 #31
G_j Mar 2013 #35
99Forever Feb 2013 #9
Brainstormy Feb 2013 #10
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #16
BillyJack Feb 2013 #11
NV Whino Feb 2013 #12
ThomThom Feb 2013 #18
NV Whino Feb 2013 #23
ThomThom Feb 2013 #24
NV Whino Feb 2013 #34
Sugarcoated Feb 2013 #27
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #13
woo me with science Feb 2013 #15
woo me with science Feb 2013 #14
G_j Feb 2013 #17
GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #20
GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #19
Taverner Feb 2013 #21
superpatriotman Feb 2013 #25
AndyA Feb 2013 #26
Kalidurga Feb 2013 #28
G_j Feb 2013 #32
Tree-Hugger Feb 2013 #30
upi402 Mar 2013 #37
hunter Feb 2013 #33

Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:51 AM

1. Democrats that are not

the list can go on and on.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:52 AM

2. Well played!!

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Response to cliffordu (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:00 AM

6. Why thank you. High praise indeed

if only we had a bowing emoticon

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Response to Autumn (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:21 AM

36. How's this?

 

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:55 AM

3. Ah. Don't you trust "Big Business"?

 

They *always* look out for the rest of us.***

*** Unless it is more profitable not to, and they won't get caught.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:57 AM

4. Starting to see Chinese frozen vegetables imported

Read your labels.

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Response to madville (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:06 PM

22. A lot of our garlic comes from China.

I won't buy the Chinese stuff. Ditto for the sea food. It drives me nuts to see "Alaska Wild Salmon, Origin: China". Yeah, I know the fish was likely caught Alaska, and packaged on Chinese factory ships, but still... Are there no American companies that can process fish?

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:58 AM

5. keep cutting inspections and this is a surprise?????????????????????????

you do get what you do or don't pay for

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:08 AM

7. Soylent Green is people!!!...mostly nt

Last edited Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:51 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to Javaman (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:17 AM

8. You sure they didn't smuggle rats or stray dogs and cats in there?

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:41 PM

29. Don't forget the road kill.

What's the problem? It's all meat.

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:51 PM

31. I corrected my post. ;) lol nt

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:16 AM

35. who can you trust anymore? nt

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:21 AM

9. "Public servants" that serve...

... only themselves.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:21 AM

10. Well, for starters

there's chicken nuggets that are less than half chicken, blueberry bits that aren't blueberries, fiber that's wood pulp, mushroom burgers made from mold, and a whole lot more. Sorry, I'm a food writer. Nothing surprises me anymore.

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Response to Brainstormy (Reply #10)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:17 PM

16. and now..organic eggs that are not organic.

Add organic eggs to Europeís ongoing food scandals.

As many as 150 German and 36 Dutch poultry farms are being investigated for fraud involving organic eggs. Led by prosecutors in Oldenburg, Germany, the investigation is looking into violations of organic rules for free-range egg production.
http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2013/02/europe-also-dealing-with-organic-egg-scandal/

We have chickens, the difference in egg flavor and quality is amazing.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:22 AM

11. Honey that is not real honey

Many articles about this. Here is one, as I'm in a hurry this morning:

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-isnt-honey/#.US91f1chSdU

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Response to BillyJack (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:02 PM

12. Taking the pollen out of honey doesn't make it "not real honey"

Commercial honey has always been filtered.

However, removing pollen does diminish the quality in my opinion, and does camouflage other atrocities such as antibiotics or other contaminants picked up by the bees. Without pollen, as the article states, origin of honey can't be traced. But "not honey" is incorrect.

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Response to NV Whino (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:54 PM

18. thought I read a while back that high fructose corn syrup

was being added to honey and peanut oil in peanut butter was replaced with corn oil in some products

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Response to ThomThom (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:30 PM

23. That may be, but that is not what was addressed in the article sited.

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Response to NV Whino (Reply #23)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:03 PM

24. yes raw honey is alway better than cooked honey with the pollen removed

I was just adding another fact about honey to the thread
sorry maybe I could have tagged it on somewhere else
next time I'll try not to overshadow your point

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Response to ThomThom (Reply #24)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:55 PM

34. No problem

The main point, of course, is that our food supply is fucked.

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Response to ThomThom (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:12 PM

27. Yep

This has been reported . . . some honey companies are cutting corn syrup into their product.

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Response to BillyJack (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:09 PM

13. Good site...thanks!

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Response to BillyJack (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:14 PM

15. +1 Thank you.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:14 PM

14. "Chocolate" with oil instead of cocoa butter, and chemical flavoring,

"yogurt" that is an artificially sweetened soup,

"ice cream" that is mostly gum,

"bleach" that is mostly water.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:30 PM

17. Yes, perhaps products should be required

to use quotation marks, as you have!

"ice cream" lol

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Response to G_j (Reply #17)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:02 PM

20. Breyer's has taken to referring to their's as "dairy dessert".

Only their vanilla seems to be real "ice cream".

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:00 PM

19. High-speed Internet

Not just slow-speed, but grossly over-priced.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:03 PM

21. Bottled water that's just tap water

 

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:08 PM

25. Honey laundering

remember this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20015516-504083.html

A German food conglomerate and several executives are under indictment on charges that they engaged in what amounts to honey laundering.

Federal prosecutors allege that 10 top executives of Alfred L. Wolff GmbH conspired to illegally import more than $40 million worth of honey from China between 2002 and 2009, and concealed its origin to avoid paying nearly $80 million in anti-dumping duties.

The U.S. Commerce Department has imposed anti-dumping duties on Chinese honey brought into the United States since 2001. The current duty is $2.06 per net kilogram.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:12 PM

26. Why would people possibly want to know what they're *really* eating?

Corporate America knows what's best for us, they would surely never cut corners to save money if it might impact public health.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:22 PM

28. I think our food supply is hopelessly contaminated for the most part.

I stopped eating meat last year. It was by request. Since meat wasn't a huge deal for me anyway, it wasn't a big deal. Since then I have also stopped using dairy and eggs. That was because of things I had read about and I felt I can no longer supply the factory farming. I also try to avoid GMOs but that is much harder since there are many crops that are GMO contaminated. Soybeans is the big one. Corn is the other. So, I do the best I can and I try to make most my food from scratch.

Oh and I stopped buying extra virgin olive oil after I read something about that being a lot of things but olive oil wasn't one of them. So, now I just use regular or virgin olive oil since it is less likely to have been involved in some kind of a scam where it's contaminated.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #28)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:51 PM

32. wise approach

here is an interesting piece on finding real olive oil.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-your-olive-oil-really-olive-oil/#axzz2MDyJw0OE

<snip>

My best results have come with domestics Ė wherever I am. My favorite olive oil here in California is a California olive oil. The best Italian olive oil I ever had was in Italy. Same for Spanish olive oil. In all those studies referenced above, domestics seemed to win out. The NZ and Australian studies found that local oils bested the imports, just as the California study found that the top oils were from Califorjnia. Iíd imagine Italians like Italian olive oil and Spaniards like Spanish olive oil and so on and so forth because theyíre not getting the imported, adulterated dregs.

<snip>

Do some tastings. Look for specialty shops or farmerís market stands that allow and even encourage tastings of their olive oils. Take at least an ounce (the quarter teaspoon some places try to offer is way too meager to get an accurate reading), slurp it up, and swirl it around in your mouth like youíre trying to make a saliva-EVOO emulsification. Be obnoxious about it, even. But as you swallow the oil, relax and be ready to note the peppery polyphenol kick at the end, usually experienced at the back of your throat. Good EVOO should linger pleasantly in the mouth, even after itís been swallowed.

<snip>

Avoid clear bottles. Although Iíve bought some fantastic olive oil from dedicated small-time producers that was stored in random glass jars, I usually opt for EVOO that comes in dark bottles or stainless steel containers. First reason being, light exposure oxidizes olive oil and degrades the polyphenol content. Second reason, most quality olive oil producers care about their product enough to ship it in suitable vessels.

Buy a winner. I always keep up with the latest winners of the Los Angeles International Extra Virgin Olive Oil Competition, http://www.fairplex.com/wos/olive_oil_competition/AwardsCelebration/winners.asp.
Whenever Iíve tried one from the list of winners, I havenít been disappointed. Here are some other lauded competitions,

http://www.oliveoiltimes.com/reviews-opinions/extra-virgin-olive-oil-competitions
<snip>

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-your-olive-oil-really-olive-oil/#axzz2MDyJw0OE

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:42 PM

30. Christians lacking any real Christ....nt

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Response to Tree-Hugger (Reply #30)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:21 AM

37. Second Vatican Council was betrayed

Great story on Democracy Now! about the undoing of the church doing good for people.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:51 PM

33. Cheese slices that are not cheese.

Just vegetable oil, texturing agents, coloring agents, and cheese flavoring.

Same with some "pizza toppings."

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