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Vaccines are helping drive down disease rates: (Original Post) CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 OP
Any idea of the source - it's a great poster! hedgehog Feb 2013 #1
I found it on Facebook. I'll check to see if there's a source. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #2
Here's the source: CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #3
Smallpox is gone. Polio could be next. longship Feb 2013 #4
I could not believe that there are people claiming the vaccine will sterilize others. WTF? CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #7
Religious leaders in Africa are telling their flocks this. longship Feb 2013 #11
And someday, maybe, cancer? trof Feb 2013 #21
I sincerely doubt that cancer has A cure. longship Feb 2013 #24
Cancer is only slightly less of a big tent than, say, "injury" is Posteritatis Feb 2013 #29
It's frustrating how incredibly close we keep getting with polio Posteritatis Feb 2013 #28
Good info, Miss Peggy WCGreen Feb 2013 #5
Thank you, Chris... CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #8
Thank you for posting, Peggy! GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #6
Herd immunity is wonderful! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #9
We are too far removed from how things used to be central scrutinizer Feb 2013 #10
Yep. Public health successes breed complacency. And ignorance. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #12
I'm afraid you may be right. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #13
We live in amazing times. MineralMan Feb 2013 #14
We do, don't we? CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #15
Thank you for this valuable information. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #16
I hope this will help, my dear mountain granny! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #18
Thanks, I did and will pass it on. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #27
Great Info kairos12 Feb 2013 #17
Thank you, my dear kairos12! I get tired of those foolish opinions too. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #19
K&R Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #20
K&R Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #22
Thanks, Joe! Great to see you, sweetie! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #23
My aunt , born in 1906, had diptheria, measles, rubella, undulant fever SoCalDem Feb 2013 #25
Wow, she was tough, my dear SoCalDem! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #26
The pre-vaccine measles and varicella figures are astonishing. Posteritatis Feb 2013 #30
Those numbers surprised me too... CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #32
shhhhhhh Livluvgrow Feb 2013 #31
Maybe the Republicans are the ones behind the vaccine=autism lies? CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #33

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
1. Any idea of the source - it's a great poster!
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 03:45 PM
Feb 2013

the pre-vaccination rates for congenital rubella and tetanus look low to me. I went to school with kids who were exposed to rubella in the womb.

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. Smallpox is gone. Polio could be next.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 04:02 PM
Feb 2013

Nobody will ever suffer from smallpox again. That can happen with polio, too. And it's within reach if the knuckleheads stop claiming that the vaccinations are a US plot to sterilize the populace.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Religious leaders in Africa are telling their flocks this.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 05:35 PM
Feb 2013

Both Moslem and Christian clergy. Meanwhile, the people fighting the battle against polio are really hard pressed to eradicate it.

I was born in 1948 and I remember polio in elementary school in Detroit. There were kids with crutches and leg braces. I remember getting the Salk vaccine. The first one was a jab, the others were oral, a red sugar cube. Everybody got them.

One wonders if the US populace still has herd immunity to polio given that an outbreak may be only an international airline flight away.

longship

(40,416 posts)
24. I sincerely doubt that cancer has A cure.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 06:59 PM
Feb 2013

Cancer is not a single thing. It is many things. There is not a single cure for all cancer. Those who claim there is... cough! Hulda Clark are selling snake oil. Of course, Clark's claims to have the cure did not stop her from dying of... cough! ... cancer, which she left untreated. That's right. Hulda Clark, PhD ND (Not a Doctor) claimed all cancer was caused by... You guessed it! liver flukes!

These guys:


Apparently Clark's cure didn't work too well, her body undoubtedly riddled with those parasitic worms. Or, she had cancer and her so-called cure still didn't work.

Must've been a fluke? I doubt it. Probably it was just quackery.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
29. Cancer is only slightly less of a big tent than, say, "injury" is
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 07:33 PM
Feb 2013

There's dozens to hundreds of different types, which affect the host in different ways and for different reasons. It's definitely one of those things that has to get knocked down one or two types at a time, which has largely been how it's been going for the last few decades.

People who talk about knowing "the" cure for cancer are, without exception, lying.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
28. It's frustrating how incredibly close we keep getting with polio
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 07:32 PM
Feb 2013

That could have been gone - kaput, extinct, not a problem anymore - about ten years ago, and instead it's still hitting thousands, because of ridiculous paranoia in the affected areas which is being encouraged by people on this side of the pond. Its' tragic.

central scrutinizer

(11,661 posts)
10. We are too far removed from how things used to be
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 05:33 PM
Feb 2013

I went to a family reunion a few years ago and different branches of the family shared their family trees leading back to our common ancestor. Back in the 1800s, some of the families lost several children, probably to childhood diseases. The most extreme case - 9 children, only two lived past age 14, with several dying in their first two years of life. If that same kind of mortality was still happening, there would be a national effort that would dwarf the race to the moon and the Manhattan project combined. But now, some airhead celebrity who "knows" that vaccines cause autism drowns out mountains of scientific evidence.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
12. Yep. Public health successes breed complacency. And ignorance.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 05:36 PM
Feb 2013

People don't know what horrible things those diseases can do because they don't see the effects anymore. But if the anti-vaccers have their way, death and crippling conditions will return as the complications from measles, mumps, etc. start becoming more common.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,694 posts)
13. I'm afraid you may be right.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 05:36 PM
Feb 2013

Celebrities have all the answers, doncha know?

I wish there were some way we could drown them out.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
14. We live in amazing times.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 05:46 PM
Feb 2013

I had all of the childhood diseases except diphtheria and polio. Now, almost all kids in the US can forget about them. Science is a wonderful thing!

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,694 posts)
15. We do, don't we?
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 05:52 PM
Feb 2013

In spite of all the troubles, and there are many, we still have much to be glad about.

Vaccines are one of the wonderful things.

mountain grammy

(26,647 posts)
16. Thank you for this valuable information.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 06:00 PM
Feb 2013

I have a cousin who argues continually against vaccines. I will send her this, but what I argue is our own history. As a kid, I remember my mom not letting us go to public swimming pools in the summer, she was terrified of polio because people, kids, actually got the disease. Then it was gone..
When my mom was a kid, she got smallpox and survived with just a few scars. Many people died from smallpox. Then it was gone..
I got measles as a kid and then contracted scarlet fever, I almost died. Many people died from complications of me
measles. Then it was gone..
I think this witch hunt against vaccines is foolish and wrong. You're post backs me up.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,694 posts)
18. I hope this will help, my dear mountain granny!
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 06:36 PM
Feb 2013

Have a look at post #3--the link for the chart shows more detail.

kairos12

(12,871 posts)
17. Great Info
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 06:08 PM
Feb 2013

I get tired of the low information celebrity medical opinions reducing the rates of vaccination in our country.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
25. My aunt , born in 1906, had diptheria, measles, rubella, undulant fever
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 07:08 PM
Feb 2013

influenza (the 1918 variety) and whooping cough.. She was one tough old bird... survived them all..

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,694 posts)
26. Wow, she was tough, my dear SoCalDem!
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 07:10 PM
Feb 2013

Most of us would rather have the vaccines!

Thanks for sharing her history...

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
30. The pre-vaccine measles and varicella figures are astonishing.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 07:35 PM
Feb 2013

I knew those were deadly far more often back in the past, but wow.

Livluvgrow

(377 posts)
31. shhhhhhh
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 07:49 PM
Feb 2013

lets keep this on the down low if repubes get wind of this they are liable to try and put a halt to it.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,694 posts)
33. Maybe the Republicans are the ones behind the vaccine=autism lies?
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:44 PM
Feb 2013

Very Belated Welcome to DU, Livluvgrow!

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