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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:06 PM Dec 2012

If America won't change its crazy gun laws... I may deport myself says Piers Morgan

By PIERS MORGAN
PUBLISHED: 19:26 EST, 29 December 2012

I have fired guns only once in my life, on a stag party to the Czech capital Prague a few years ago when part of the itinerary included a trip to an indoor shooting range. For three hours, our group were let loose on everything from Magnum 45 handguns and Glock pistols, to high-powered ‘sniper’ rifles and pump-action shotguns.

It was controlled, legal, safe and undeniably exciting. But it also showed me, quite demonstrably, that guns are killing machines.

Rarely has the hideous effect of a gun been more acutely laid bare than at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, two weeks ago – when a deranged young man called Adam Lanza murdered 20 schoolchildren aged six and seven, as well as six adults, in a sickening rampage.

...

In conclusion, I can spare those Americans who want me deported a lot of effort by saying this: If you don’t change your gun laws to at least try to stop this relentless tidal wave of murderous carnage, then you don’t have to worry about deporting me.

Although I love the country as a second home and one that has treated me incredibly well, I would, as a concerned parent first – and latterly, of a one-year-old daughter who may attend an American elementary school like Sandy Hook in three years’ time – seriously consider deporting myself.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254758/Piers-Morgan-Deport-If-America-wont-change-crazy-gun-laws-I-deport-myself.html

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If America won't change its crazy gun laws... I may deport myself says Piers Morgan (Original Post) n2doc Dec 2012 OP
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well, there is a classy response, I must say! CTyankee Dec 2012 #2
there's lots of binge drinking and knifeplay in the UK. datasuspect Dec 2012 #3
Why don't you trust Piers? He's a Brit, isn't he? Why should I believe you? CTyankee Dec 2012 #4
well, he's a posh brit datasuspect Dec 2012 #5
After seeing what you post, all is the more reason for me to trust Piers... CTyankee Dec 2012 #6
what, do you know his phone number or something? datasuspect Dec 2012 #7
a lot more than is entailed with you. CTyankee Dec 2012 #10
He's not posh--he's middle class, made rich with new money. He got it working for Rupert Murdoch. MADem Dec 2012 #32
Does the UK have more machete and hatchet deaths than the US has gun deaths per year? Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #11
www.google.com datasuspect Dec 2012 #12
Couldn't find much information about machete and hatchet deaths in the UK Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #15
i don't have that much invested in this datasuspect Dec 2012 #16
The US wouldn't even be in the top 10 in violent crimes per 100,000 people in Europe. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #25
Violent - like a punch in the nose? Or are we talking about a bullet in the head? Hoyt Dec 2012 #30
I can tell you that cops are more afraid Jenoch Dec 2012 #35
We have a lot of people...and a lot of room to spread out. MADem Dec 2012 #33
I lived in England for years Skittles Dec 2012 #27
what a stupid, lame response. NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #38
In the words of Bill Cutting rrneck Dec 2012 #8
What makes him think they will take him back? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #9
Who gets to decide if he can go back? Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #13
your version deprives the situation of entertainment value datasuspect Dec 2012 #14
He can return to the UK, but it may well not get a similar high profile media job ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #18
At least he'll be safer Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #19
The UK is safer than DC, but not as safe as say Utah. ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #20
The UK as a whole is safer than the US as a whole, especially when it comes to gun deaths Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #22
I'm all for sensible gun control davidthegnome Dec 2012 #17
What a self-absorbed buffoon. nt Skip Intro Dec 2012 #21
He made fun of Dubya for falling off that Segway...called him an idiot, basically. MADem Dec 2012 #34
Buh bye... Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #23
Don't let the door hit you in the ass Piers. MicaelS Dec 2012 #24
Agreed. There's something incredibly off putting about a resident alien making a lucrative living Midwestern Democrat Dec 2012 #37
& i say: *please, please, please go, piers....* HiPointDem Dec 2012 #26
What I think is hilarious is the gun nuts elevation of the 2nd Amendment above all the others. alarimer Dec 2012 #28
You know little about the 1st Amendment. Jenoch Dec 2012 #36
With any luck, Morgan will self deport RomneyLies Dec 2012 #29
There you go. I do credit Morgan for having guts to go up against hateful/callous gun culture. Hoyt Dec 2012 #31
shooting-aftermath djackson76 Dec 2012 #39
Will he return to the country where he was hacking peoples phones for profit? n/t hughee99 Dec 2012 #40

Response to n2doc (Original post)

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
3. there's lots of binge drinking and knifeplay in the UK.
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:17 PM
Dec 2012

motherfuckers will come after you with hatchets and shit.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
5. well, he's a posh brit
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:22 PM
Dec 2012

so he probably wouldn't mix with "those" kind of people anyway.

i'm sure he has enough money to provide an adequate security posture for his family here or in the UK.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
7. what, do you know his phone number or something?
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:27 PM
Dec 2012

how do you "trust" a television newsotainment host?

what is entailed within that concept for you personally?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. He's not posh--he's middle class, made rich with new money. He got it working for Rupert Murdoch.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:54 AM
Dec 2012

He was up to his non-posh ass in that telephone scandal--he was once an editor for TNOTW--the newspaper (well, working-class tabloid, it was) that Murdoch bought, ruined, and threw under the bus in an effort to distract and mitigate.

I feel sorry for the Irish, because at some level they must claim the little prig, too--he's got some Fenian ancestry, as well.


Piers Stefan Pughe-Morgan (born Piers Stefan O'Meara; 30 March 1965), known professionally as Piers Morgan, is a British journalist and television host currently working in the United States. He is editorial director of First News, a national newspaper for children published in the U.K., and host of Piers Morgan Tonight on CNN, which he began hosting on 17 January 2011. The show replaced Larry King Live in the 9:00 PM timeslot after Larry King's retirement.[3] He is a former judge on America's Got Talent.[4] Morgan is also a former winner of The Celebrity Apprentice.[5]

In the United Kingdom he worked as a writer and editor for several British tabloids, including The Sun, News of the World, and Daily Mirror, and was a judge on Britain's Got Talent. In November 2012 Morgan was criticised in the official findings of the Leveson Inquiry, when Lord Leveson stated that comments made in Morgan's testimony about phone hacking "clearly prove is that he was aware that it was taking place in the press as a whole and that he was sufficiently unembarrassed by what was criminal behaviour that he was prepared to joke about it"....Morgan is alleged to have close ties with the Rupert Murdoch family and defended them in the media against suggestions that they were more involved in the News International phone hacking scandal than they claimed.[64]

During Morgan's tenure as editor, the Daily Mirror was advised by Steven Nott that voicemail interception was possible by means of a standard PIN code. Despite staff initially expressing enthusiasm for the story it did not appear in the paper, although it did subsequently feature in a South Wales Argus article and on BBC Radio 5 Live in October 1999. On 18 July 2011 Nott was visited by officers of Operation Weeting.[65]

On 13 July 2011 the political blogger Paul Staines alleged that Morgan published a story while knowing it to have been obtained by phone hacking while editor of the Daily Mirror in 2002.[66]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Morgan
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
11. Does the UK have more machete and hatchet deaths than the US has gun deaths per year?
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:43 PM
Dec 2012

Just curious. You seem to know a lot about machete and hatchet violence in the UK.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
12. www.google.com
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:46 PM
Dec 2012

all i am willing to offer in this venue is anecdotal evidence.

do your own homework if it means that much to you.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
15. Couldn't find much information about machete and hatchet deaths in the UK
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:59 PM
Dec 2012

Methinks there ain't very many compared to gun deaths in the US.

Again, you seem to know a lot about UK hatchet deaths. Please set me straight, if you can.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
25. The US wouldn't even be in the top 10 in violent crimes per 100,000 people in Europe.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:29 AM
Dec 2012

US = 386.3 offenses per 100,000 inhabitants (a 4.5 percent decrease from the 2010 rate)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
30. Violent - like a punch in the nose? Or are we talking about a bullet in the head?
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:50 AM
Dec 2012

I'd much prefer to face a knife, than a previously law-abiding gun owner like Zimmerman or NRA President's gun wielding son. Heck, a staff is very effective against a knife.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
35. I can tell you that cops are more afraid
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:31 AM
Dec 2012

of someone getting close with a knife than they are of someone with a gun. It is more than likely the perp will miss if he/she shoots. A knife blade will go through a kevlar vest, that's why they have a ceramic plate at the sternum.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. We have a lot of people...and a lot of room to spread out.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:02 AM
Dec 2012

In UK, people live closer together.

It would be interesting to see the death rate from violent crime in the assorted countries...

NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
38. what a stupid, lame response.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:44 AM
Dec 2012

I'm sorry, but surely you can do better than that.

Or, maybe there is no better response.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
8. In the words of Bill Cutting
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:30 PM
Dec 2012

From the movie Gangs of New York

"Have a drink and shut up or shut up and get out".





 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
13. Who gets to decide if he can go back?
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:46 PM
Dec 2012

I thought he was born in the UK. I thought he could go back any time he wants without the approval of anyone.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
22. The UK as a whole is safer than the US as a whole, especially when it comes to gun deaths
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:22 AM
Dec 2012

This is also the case with many other western European countries.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
17. I'm all for sensible gun control
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:00 AM
Dec 2012

But I've never cared for Morgan. Maybe he just strikes me as too arrogant. I once watched him interviewing the Dalai Lama (SP?) and he frequently interrupted him in a way that struck me as both rude and conceited. Since then I've never really bothered watching his show.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. He made fun of Dubya for falling off that Segway...called him an idiot, basically.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:05 AM
Dec 2012

Then later, he fell off a Segway...and broke three ribs.

In 2007, Morgan was filmed falling off a Segway, breaking three ribs. Simon Cowell and others made much of Morgan's previous comment in 2003, in the Daily Mail, after former U.S. President George W. Bush fell off a Segway, that "You'd have to be an idiot to fall off, wouldn't you, Mr. President?"[27][28][29][30]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Morgan
37. Agreed. There's something incredibly off putting about a resident alien making a lucrative living
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:40 AM
Dec 2012

in this country - and peeing all over it.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
28. What I think is hilarious is the gun nuts elevation of the 2nd Amendment above all the others.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:33 AM
Dec 2012

Including the 1st.

"We hate what you say, so you must be deported" is just shutting down the debate. They have no argument on their side so all they can do is stick their fingers in their ears and say, "Nah Nah! I can't hear you." The discourse by right-wingers and gun nuts is always "Shut up!"

The gun lobby has effectively blocked even scientific research into gun laws and their possible effects or lack thereof and tried (although I don't know if they've succeeded) in preventing the CDC from even collecting statistics, so blind is their devotion to their guns.

While I can't stand Piers Morgan, I think he's right here. Even if he's not right, he still has the right to say it, without being kicked out of the country. That's a really stupid reason to deport someone.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
36. You know little about the 1st Amendment.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:35 AM
Dec 2012

The 1st Amendment prevents the GOVERNMENT from restricting free speech. It has nothing to do with anybody else who does not like your speech.

Morgan is not being departed. Go back and re-read the story.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
29. With any luck, Morgan will self deport
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:36 AM
Dec 2012

and the second amendment will be repealed within two weeks of that.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. There you go. I do credit Morgan for having guts to go up against hateful/callous gun culture.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:52 AM
Dec 2012
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