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proud patriot

(100,717 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:05 AM Apr 29

What would you do if you were to spend the nxt 3 months in S dakota ?

I have a once in a lifetime chance to spend the next 3 months in a foriegn country far from my Hawaii home .

south dakota awaits me .. I am not used to such a trumpy land ..

I want to make a difference w/o Dying at the hands of trumpers .

any hints from those whose live in such hostile lands .

Thanks
proud patriot

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What would you do if you were to spend the nxt 3 months in S dakota ? (Original Post) proud patriot Apr 29 OP
Volunteer at a dog shelter...just kidding...I have no idea... LeftInTX Apr 29 #1
don't let the gov petsit your pets BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 29 #2
i would hike/explore the badlands. ret5hd Apr 29 #3
First thing I would ask (probably) DFW Apr 29 #4
See Mt. Rushmore Polybius Apr 29 #5
Are you aware of its incredibly racist and controversial history? niyad Apr 29 #9
Yes Polybius Apr 29 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author niyad Apr 30 #44
Mount Rushmore is a desecration. nt PufPuf23 Apr 29 #26
Ok Polybius Apr 29 #37
That is fine, I saw it myself. Just be aware of the backstory. PufPuf23 Apr 29 #41
I hear ya Polybius Apr 29 #42
You do know that the racist, traitorous scum who was responsible for niyad Apr 30 #45
I see your point, but can't agree Polybius Apr 30 #48
We've lived in a very red intermountain west state for 45 years. yonder Apr 29 #6
Don't worry about what they think, when you're there, enjoy it and you'll find that you had a good time, SWBTATTReg Apr 29 #7
The "Dignity: Of Earth and Sky" statue near Chamberlain on I 90. niyad Apr 29 #8
Wow, I hadn't heard of that Polybius Apr 30 #43
She is amazing. Did you see the images from the other side? niyad Apr 30 #47
Actually it's real nice in moniss Apr 29 #10
Where? Doing what? NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 29 #11
i'm going with my MIL proud patriot Apr 29 #20
air conditioning. sun glasses. Tetrachloride Apr 29 #12
Enjoy. Most everyone is friendly Onthefly Apr 29 #13
Go for the recreation and areas of natural beauty and ignore the politics unless it is your goal hlthe2b Apr 29 #14
sage advice , thanks proud patriot Apr 29 #21
You said what I just typed only much better. kr PufPuf23 Apr 29 #25
I work for a trucking company up there. imanamerican63 Apr 29 #15
My recommendations? Be white, be male, leave your dog at home. Midnight Writer Apr 29 #16
Take a book. LudwigPastorius Apr 29 #18
I wouldn't ever go there again in the first place NanaCat Apr 29 #19
Consider doing some trips to wyoming, montana, colorado Chakaconcarne Apr 29 #22
There is beautiful nature in parts of South Dakota. PufPuf23 Apr 29 #23
It is an amazing state. Kid Berwyn Apr 29 #24
The Badlands are amazing, definitely worth seeing. Ocelot II Apr 29 #27
Visit Deadwood and play some poker. Rhiagel Apr 29 #28
I live in the western part of the state (Black Hills). Very red here, but pretty progressive around Sioux Falls. Paha Sapa Apr 29 #29
I recognize your user name... electric_blue68 Apr 30 #52
Chakaconcarne (above) recommended: Consider doing some trips to wyoming, montana, colorado SupportSanity Apr 29 #30
About 8 years ago I flew from Pittsburgh to Rapid City to meet up with a Caravan Tour doc03 Apr 29 #31
Thank you for mentioining Art Alley. Several years ago, a friend made niyad Apr 30 #46
Two Words TlalocW Apr 29 #32
Enjoy it? WarGamer Apr 29 #33
age ZonkerHarris Apr 29 #34
Thanks for the great Advice and ideas proud patriot Apr 29 #35
Visit the Mammoth Site frogmarch Apr 29 #36
oh man that looks so cool proud patriot Apr 30 #49
What are you driving? And other tips. duckworth969 Apr 29 #38
ok I will pack accordingly proud patriot Apr 30 #50
Set your watch back to 1962. Liberal In Texas Apr 29 #39
They have a lot of wildlife worth seeing ripcord Apr 29 #40
I'm hoping for buffalo proud patriot Apr 30 #51
Throw some plumeria blossoms in your suitcases! AuntyGravity Apr 30 #53

ret5hd

(20,564 posts)
3. i would hike/explore the badlands.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:21 AM
Apr 29

i’d check out sioux falls, pierre, and rapid city for bookstores and a quiet glass of wine somewhere.

i’d watch sunrises and sunsets.

i’d walk along the Missouri, James, and Big Sioux Rivers.

i’d see the Crazy Horse Memorial.

i’d camp alone in the quiet.

Then i would return home with my memories and the knowledge that i never have to return unless i really wanted to.

DFW

(54,506 posts)
4. First thing I would ask (probably)
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:22 AM
Apr 29

Is there a safe, reliable cryo storage facility in South Dakota, and, if so, what would they charge for a three month stay?

On the other hand, George McGovern and Tom Daschle were from South Dakota, to there have to be a FEW kindred spirits
somewhere in that state.

Polybius

(15,533 posts)
17. Yes
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 12:41 PM
Apr 29

Doesn't mean I can't see it in person. It's there no matter what, me seeing it won't change anytrhing.

Response to Polybius (Reply #17)

PufPuf23

(8,858 posts)
41. That is fine, I saw it myself. Just be aware of the backstory.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:43 PM
Apr 29

The level of casual bigotry at DU is getting to me.

There are many beautiful places in South Dakota as I and others said elsewhere in thread.

Apologize for bring abrupt. Niyad made a similar comment.

Polybius

(15,533 posts)
42. I hear ya
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:56 PM
Apr 29

My reasoning isn't bigotry, however. I'd like to see everything historic, as long as it's there. Hell, there are DUers who have been to Stone Mountain in GA.

niyad

(113,966 posts)
45. You do know that the racist, traitorous scum who was responsible for
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:09 AM
Apr 30

the travesty that is Stone Mountain designed the desecration of The Six Grandfathers?

The problem with going to places like stone mountain, and rushmore, when one knows theur history, is that, however pure and unbigoted one's intentions, tha very act of going to them gives them legitimacy.

Polybius

(15,533 posts)
48. I see your point, but can't agree
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:49 AM
Apr 30

If I'm in the area, my eyes seeing it won't hurt anyone. Hell, I know someone to the left of me that saw the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, because when he visited his cousin it was less than a half hour drive. I don't hold it against him at all.

yonder

(9,687 posts)
6. We've lived in a very red intermountain west state for 45 years.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:51 AM
Apr 29

Not for the politics but for the outdoor opportunities. There's plenty of easily-accessed, uncrowded public land to literally lose oneself in.

I think parts of South Dakota are blessed similarly.

I'd say do it. It's only 3 months, it won't kill you and you just might like it.

Post #3, especially their 2nd to last sentence, says it well.

SWBTATTReg

(22,222 posts)
7. Don't worry about what they think, when you're there, enjoy it and you'll find that you had a good time,
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:02 AM
Apr 29

and you know the people more, if you know what I mean...they are pretty good people, we should take solice in that, believe me. I've lived in these rural areas, and I love them, and the people.

niyad

(113,966 posts)
8. The "Dignity: Of Earth and Sky" statue near Chamberlain on I 90.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:32 AM
Apr 29

Honouring the Lakota and Dakota peoples. I cannot link to it, or post images, but if you google, you can see it.

moniss

(4,274 posts)
10. Actually it's real nice in
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:48 AM
Apr 29

the north central part of the state near the North Dakota border, the south central part near the Nebraska border/Fort Randall Dam area is cool and I like the eastern border region with Minnesota and Iowa. As far as what to do with the people I would say they're mostly nice enough but I don't bring up politics or religion. If you're going right about now get used to the idea of a strong wind blowing with dirt and dust. If you get up in the northern part be sure and ask in some convenience stores etc. for Grandma's Kuchen. You will be glad you did.

proud patriot

(100,717 posts)
20. i'm going with my MIL
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:58 PM
Apr 29

we are going to be with her sister who has just entered hospice care . We will have time on the weekends
for road trips and such .

Onthefly

(192 posts)
13. Enjoy. Most everyone is friendly
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:31 AM
Apr 29

I have visited SD many times. Explore. Learn about the history and Indian life. If you like the outdoors, so much to offer. I once went on a tour of the Oahu Dam that was spectacular. It supports a huge reservoir just north of Pierre. Camping in the Black Hills region can be a break from summer heat. Regardless of political leanings, most people are polite, helpful, and like to give tips on where to go!

hlthe2b

(102,562 posts)
14. Go for the recreation and areas of natural beauty and ignore the politics unless it is your goal
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:42 AM
Apr 29

to do outreach. If it is the latter, you need to do your homework and educate yourself, especially about SD history with its Native American population and current status. I have worked with Lakota Sioux at Standing Rock and Pine Ridge earlier in my career. The experience grounded me in both my beliefs and politics like nothing else, particularly because I had had the opportunity to learn and be educated about Civil Rights in the South growing up, while the modern-day Native American experience is an area of intense ignorance for most Americans.

So, if you are going for rest, relaxation, and vacation, stick with the auto-touring, hiking, camping, fishing, kayaking, rock-climbing opportunities--or whatever moves you.

If you are seeking an "out-reach" experience then please do your homework and put your assumptions on the shelf. Honestly, there is nothing worse than being an outspoken, but uninformed tourist. Remember the words of Mark Twain: “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”

That said, go and enjoy. There is a lot of beauty (and quite a few very nice people living there, politics aside).

proud patriot

(100,717 posts)
21. sage advice , thanks
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 03:02 PM
Apr 29

Living in Hawaii , I'm very familar with the rudeness of outspoken tourists . That's the last thing I want.

imanamerican63

(13,839 posts)
15. I work for a trucking company up there.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:46 AM
Apr 29

And I do not speak about politics or anything to assume what they want to hear or say!

I just work there and they don’t talk to me about politics!

NanaCat

(1,551 posts)
19. I wouldn't ever go there again in the first place
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:13 PM
Apr 29

I had to be there thanks to the USAF, and I hated it so much I took the first chance to get out of there that I could.

Worst place I ever lived, bar none.

Never went back, and I never will. I hate it that much.

Kid Berwyn

(15,073 posts)
24. It is an amazing state.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:16 PM
Apr 29


And even if it’s currently in the red column, most of the people are good human beings. Last visited in 2017.

Ocelot II

(116,003 posts)
27. The Badlands are amazing, definitely worth seeing.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:26 PM
Apr 29

Visited there years ago - we were there in the evening and it was so quiet you could hear your own heartbeat. The colors are glorious.

Paha Sapa

(423 posts)
29. I live in the western part of the state (Black Hills). Very red here, but pretty progressive around Sioux Falls.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 04:40 PM
Apr 29

Where are you going to be based while here? Maybe I could provide some guidance.

electric_blue68

(15,030 posts)
52. I recognize your user name...
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 02:54 AM
Apr 30

In 1980 I went to think it was called The Black Hills Gathering (was also going to Colorado Springs, my cousin in Denver took ne up into The Rockies by motorcycle(!), Flagstaff AZ for Greyline return visits to the Navajo & Hopi Nation, Alberquerque/Old City via my dad's friend).

Was held on land east of the Paha Sapa donated for the 3 days by a rancher. A mix of Lakota, and maybe other tribes, a lot of us white people, and some others. About Native American issues, Black Hills issues, lots of Renewable Energy info. I only went for one day - I couldn't manage a backpack (lent to me) & small tent which I'd I might have bought trying it all on at home.

I had donated Illustrations for a few issues of an activist newspaper before the trip.

I did take the Grey Line tour of The Black Hills.

SupportSanity

(242 posts)
30. Chakaconcarne (above) recommended: Consider doing some trips to wyoming, montana, colorado
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 05:27 PM
Apr 29

Thinking about that, if you could get to the Grand Canyon, you would be able to see the mainland's answer to Haleakala.

The Grand Canyon is so big that you can't tell how big it is. Hard to describe until you see it. Very worth the trip.

And, there is more to do in that area than just the Grand Canyon, but really, the Grand Canyon is it.

No picture or video can do the Grand Canyon justice. It is an experience that you get to have. Very restorative. Good for people supporting someone in hospice.

Mahalo

doc03

(35,454 posts)
31. About 8 years ago I flew from Pittsburgh to Rapid City to meet up with a Caravan Tour
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 05:55 PM
Apr 29

group. I thought Rapid City was a pretty nice city, the day I arrived they were having a street fair. I think
there were three different bandstands downtown. There was an Art Alley with murals and several street performers.
Every block has statues of the Presidents, John Kennedy and John Jr. were in front of my hotel. This was a week or two
before the Sturges Motorcycle Rally so I don't know if that was just for that or an every week thing. We visited the Badlands,
Mount Rushmore and Crazy Horse then went on out west ending up in Salt Lake City where I flew back to Pittsburgh from.
It was a very nice trip.

niyad

(113,966 posts)
46. Thank you for mentioining Art Alley. Several years ago, a friend made
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:18 AM
Apr 30

a trip up there specifically to see the Alley, and brought back some amazing photos.

WarGamer

(12,515 posts)
33. Enjoy it?
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:43 PM
Apr 29

Some of the best outdoors-ish stuff around.

I've spent time around Spearfish and Sturgis... Black Hills NF is amazing...

Head west into Wyoming... the Devil's Tower NM... 1/2 of all people who see it think it's a petrified tree trunk lol...

I adore the great Mountain West...

Life isn't all about politics.

frogmarch

(12,161 posts)
36. Visit the Mammoth Site
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:39 PM
Apr 29

in Hot Springs. Years ago, I worked there training tour guides and giving tours in the summer and cleaning and identifying and preserving bones after summer digs and in the lab during the winter.

me:



https://mammothsite.org/

duckworth969

(641 posts)
38. What are you driving? And other tips.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 10:01 PM
Apr 29

Get an old pickup, especially good to not be driving something that looks too sporty or foreign, don’t wear cowboy boots but get ya some worn out boots that look like they been somewhere, be careful what bumper stickers you have, probably best to have none, don’t draw attention to yourself with shirt graphics or texts, low profile is best, keep with innocuous small talk especially when out at diners and bars, your sentences shouldn’t be too long and try not to use “college words”, generally avoid any discussions concerning religion or politics, if they try to draw you in, just nod. Might be a good time to consider investing in some flannel shirts.

Kindred spirits will be far and few between, but who knows.

Oh, watch out for bears, mountain lions, bison and MAGAS.

Especially MAGAS, you’re going to be surrounded.

proud patriot

(100,717 posts)
50. ok I will pack accordingly
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 02:06 AM
Apr 30

flying in from Hawaii with my MIL . family picking us up and will be using family car to see the sites .

Is my "Democracy use it or lose it " t shirt too much ?

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
40. They have a lot of wildlife worth seeing
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 10:19 PM
Apr 29

I went to eastern Oregon to see the Malheur Nation Wildlife Preserve but the best part of the trip was seeing the huge herds of elk, deer and Rocky Mountain goats.

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