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applegrove

(118,880 posts)
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 01:13 AM Apr 28

(Really great NYTimes article. Read till the end) Donald Trump Has Never Sounded Like This

Donald Trump Has Never Sounded Like This

No major American presidential candidate has talked like he now does at his rallies — not Richard Nixon, not George Wallace, not even Donald Trump himself.

By Charles Homans
Charles Homans covers politics for The Times. He has attended seven Trump rallies in seven states since October.

April 27, 2024

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/27/magazine/trump-rallies-rhetoric.html

"SNIP...........

It was Super Tuesday at Mar-a-Lago, and the people — his people — were feeling good. They had arrived around sundown, disgorged from a small fleet of buses and ushered into the grand ballroom. Some of them were old hands at this place, they explained with great pleasure. Others, first-timers, gawked visibly at the chandeliers the size of jet turbines, the gilded molding and the grape-dangling cherubs, all that marble and mirror.

Listen to this article, read by Robert Petkoff
“It’s not quite Versailles,” a county party chairman mused aloud, “but it’s the closest thing we have here.”

Screens around the room were tuned to Fox News, relaying word of one state primary triumph after another, and the mood was expansive. Forgiato Blow, a self-described “MAGA rapper,” was showing off a heavy Cuban link chain, from which dangled a lemon-size bust of the man we had all come to see. His face was rendered in solid gold. His diamond eyes peered out from beneath the brim of a red cap, the cap, emblazoned with his once and future promise to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

The man himself appeared at 10:14 p.m., strolling into the ballroom from somewhere in the private depths of the club. For a strange moment he stood there, alone and mostly unnoticed in the doorway, a ghost at his own party, before the music kicked in and he made his way to the stage.

...........SNIP"

Thanks to my cousin.

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applegrove

(118,880 posts)
2. Here is the end. After whipping the crowd into a
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 01:55 AM
Apr 28

frenzy about Biden's open borders and the murder of a young Georgia woman Laken Riley by an illegal immigrant:


"SNIP

“Who are these people that would do this to us?” Trump asked. “Who are these people who would destroy our country?”

“Democrats!” the people around me shouted. A woman behind me held her hands, prayerlike, against her lips.

He seemed reinvigorated that night, speaking for a half-hour longer than usual. He was improvising and digressing again, riffing with the crowd, moving beyond the stock bits that he shuffled around most nights. The crowd, too, seemed electrified in a way I had not seen for years. The lifting up of the martyr, the processing of her death into rage, the processing, through Trump, of the rage into joy — the old alchemy was working again.

On the arena floor, the last stragglers were dancing merrily to a final round of “Y.M.C.A.” and grinning for selfies. Scattered on the floor around their feet were discarded SAY HER NAME placards, Riley’s face limp and sticky with spilled soda. The tiny print near the bottom of her picture was scuffed, but I could still make it out: PAID FOR BY DONALD J. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT 2024, INC.

...........SNIP"

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/27/magazine/trump-rallies-rhetoric.html

They believe in Q-Anon and Biden being evil. They become convinced Democrats are the evil ones and only Trump can save the country. They don't see themselves as part of being evil. They think they are saving the country.

eppur_se_muova

(36,317 posts)
4. Deeply disturbing article. The MAGAts are so **HAPPY** to be manipulated by their self-appointed Deity. nt
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 07:37 AM
Apr 28

maxrandb

(15,378 posts)
5. Never has so much ink been devoted to someone so worthless and undeserving of it
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:48 AM
Apr 28

Donnie Dipshit is like dogshit stuck in the grooves of your tennis-shoes.

Sure, you could write a 10,000 word essay about it, but in the end, it's only dogshit.

Annoying, smelly, hard to get rid of, but ultimately worthless and insignificant.

Hey NYT! The next time you get dog shit stuck in your tennis-shoes, it's better to just toss them in the trash. It would save you from trying to explain the dogshits appeal.

applegrove

(118,880 posts)
10. I don't think it was complimentary in anyway. Trump's manipulations are layed bare.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 05:38 PM
Apr 28

and when the rally is over people drop their Laken Riley signs given to them by the Trump campaign and walk all over her.

Bobstandard

(1,330 posts)
6. A long, unfocused, normalization of Trump
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 10:40 AM
Apr 28

The article treats Trump as an odd but essentially normal politician who is just unique in how he presents himself. It is dismissive of any threat to Democracy, emphasizing differences between him and other fascists, differences that in the end don’t matter.

Bobstandard

(1,330 posts)
14. A kind of fascist, but not a real fascist
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 05:52 PM
Apr 28

They prevaricate to the extent of implying that being a fascist is just another dogma, not that different from, oh ,say democracy. In particular there is nowhere in the article a suggestion that there is cause for alarm. That is normalizing.

applegrove

(118,880 posts)
15. I found the whole article and the details of the campaign events
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 08:13 PM
Apr 28

Last edited Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:47 AM - Edit history (1)

harrowing. Terrifying. I guess I like being informed by primary information more than most.

Qutzupalotl

(14,340 posts)
7. The article dutifully quotes Trump but does not fact check him.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 11:28 AM
Apr 28

It amounts to normalizing and spreading his propaganda. The author is happy to include Trump's pronouncement that if he loses, we won't have a country anymore, echoed by Stone and Bannon; yet the danger is coming from Trump. It repeats the claim that Trump wanted to uncover fraud in the election supposedly by Biden, but no mention that no evidence was ever found. The article says Trump claims Biden weaponized the DoJ and went after him — never mind what the facts are.

Weren't newspapers supposed to discover and publish the truth? I can get speech transcripts from YouTube.

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