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B.See

(1,319 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:52 PM Apr 25

SCOTUS: Illegitimate Arm of the MAGA Reich - How Far They Have Fallen

Anyone still clinging to the fantasy of a lawful and fair-minded 'supreme' court in this land, one guided by principles of law, precedent, and just plain ass ol' INTEGRITY, must, by now, be shaken in that belief, considering the latest stew of sh*t that been brewed up by the reich-winged conservative collaborators in the dismantling of our nation's DEMOCRACY. The latest being the actual WEIGHING of (if that can be believed) the presidential 'right' to KILL the opposition.

They do Vladimir SO proud:

Donald Trump had a fantastic day in the Supreme Court today - Vox It’s unclear if the Court will explicitly hold that Trump could commit crimes with impunity, or if they’ll just delay his trial so long that it doesn’t matter.

Alito complains 'special' Trump shouldn't be 'subject to criminal laws like anybody else' - Rawstory

MAGA's information war just had 'big victory' in immunity hearing: authoritarianism expert - Rawstory


American historian and expert on authoritarianism Ruth Ben-Ghiat said Donald Trump's MAGA movement had won by getting the former president's immunity hearing before the Supreme Court — no matter how the justices rule.

Taking to social media, she wrote, "Whatever the Court does, having this case heard and the idea of having immunity for a military coup taken seriously by being debated is a big victory in the information war that MAGA and allies wage alongside legal battles. Authoritarians specialize in normalizing extreme."


Experts alarmed by Thomas’ part in Trump immunity case despite 'insurrectionist' wife - Rawstory
Clarence Thomas' wife, GOP activist Ginni Thomas, played an ACTIVE ROLE in Trump's efforts to overturn the 2024 presidential election results

'Fundamentally evil': Sotomayor rips attorney who says Trump could assassinate rivals - Rawstory

"Trump is likely to get what he wants": Experts say Supreme Court poised to delay Jan. 6 trial - Salon
The court seems unlikely to accept Trump's "extreme" immunity claim — but appears poised to drag case out longer


MEANWHILE:

Supreme Court Conservatives Weave Anti-Abortion Fantasyland To Allow Emergency Room Abortion Bans - TPM via Yahoo

The Court’s conservative wing tried with increasing and atextual persistence to convince listeners that Idaho’s strict ban still allows emergency room doctors to provide abortions to women in varying states of medical distress, and not just when doctors are sure the patient is facing death. They crafted a kind of anti-abortion fantasyland where not only do exceptions work, but that the narrowest ones will amenably stretch to cover all the sympathetic cases.


A TOM IN EVERY PLOT:

Clarence Thomas Is The Black Person Clarence Thomas Warned You About - Huffpost The Supreme Court justice has been all the things he claims to hate: a welfare queen, a duplicitous double agent, a diversity hire, a beneficiary of reparations, and a minstrel show.

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TexasDem69

(1,853 posts)
1. This all premature handwringing and nonsense
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:56 PM
Apr 25

The court hasn’t ruled and nobody knows how it will rule. It may create some sort of test—the Supreme Court likes tests—for assessing the issue but it isn’t going to issue a ruling that Trump has absolute immunity.

PortTack

(32,809 posts)
2. I agree and thank you! I get what they are saying thou. It's a sad day when the court can literally defy the law
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:03 PM
Apr 25

And look the other way to support their shitty desire to have the right take us back half a century.

B.See

(1,319 posts)
3. Which part of it is nonsense?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:10 PM
Apr 25

All I've said is that they are weighing whether a president has the right to kill his political opponents. An argument advanced by Trump's own lawyer which Sotomayor herself called "fundamentally evil."

And the other stories acknowledge that Trump may not gain full immunity, but that, in just hearing the case, the court has lent a certain degree of legitimacy to the notion of a president being, at least, somewhat above the law.

However, If you persist in placing faith in a court that has, to date, given VALID cause for concerns, on MANY fronts, then have at it.

Initech

(100,108 posts)
4. All six right wing justices are controlled by the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:12 PM
Apr 25

The Heritage Foundation isn't a think tank - it's a terrorist organization and a threat to the stability of the United States. It must be destroyed.

B.See

(1,319 posts)
5. The Last Thing This Supreme Court Could Do to Shock Us
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:37 PM
Apr 25
The Last Thing This Supreme Court Could Do to Shock Us - Slate There will be no more self-soothing after this.

Well, not for most of us, at least. The excerpt below was from the first paragraph of the above. I broke it up into four pieces for easier reading.

For three long years, Supreme Court watchers mollified themselves (and others) with vague promises that when the rubber hit the road, even the ultraconservative Federalist Society justices of the Roberts court would put democracy before party whenever they were finally confronted with the legal effort to hold Donald Trump accountable for Jan. 6.

We promised ourselves that there would be cool heads and grand bargains and that even though the court might sometimes help Trump in small ways, it would privilege the country in the end.

We kept thinking that at least for Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch and Chief Justice John Roberts, the voice of reasoned never-Trumpers might still penetrate the Fox News fog.

We told ourselves that at least six justices, and maybe even seven, of the most MAGA-friendly court in history would still want to ensure that this November’s elections would not be the last in history. Political hacks they may be, but they were not lawless ones.


"We" told ourselves? Not I. I believe in the adage, "If it quacks like a duck...."

B.See

(1,319 posts)
6. FOOLS...
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 05:04 PM
Apr 26

Last edited Sat Apr 27, 2024, 07:05 PM - Edit history (1)

The Court Just Sealed Everyone’s Fate, Including Its Own - The New Republic

The justices seem to think that the power they apparently just handed Donald Trump can’t be used against them someday. Right.

B.See

(1,319 posts)
7. It's amazing, the degree to which Trump's
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 02:10 AM
Apr 27

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acolytes and SYCOPHANTS, in the GOP and on the Supreme Court, are willing to ABDICATE even their OWN power and autonomy, to enthrone a criminal pos dictator wanna-be:

CNN Analyst Torpedoes Trump By Floating President ‘Kidnapping and Harming’ Supreme Court Justice To Appoint New One - Mediaite

B.See

(1,319 posts)
8. It's worse than you think
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:25 AM
Apr 29

'It's much worse': Yale historian says SCOTUS is flirting with making Trump more than king - Rawstory

"A king can be subject to law. Even George III was subject to law. The American Revolution was justified by the notion that he had overstepped the law," he added. "This discussion of immunity is something else. The justices are not discussing any constitutional system at all, including a constitutional monarchy."

according to the professor, the justices "are instead flirting with the idea that a single person can be outside any constitutional system, outside the rule of law as such.

B.See

(1,319 posts)
11. Ex-federal judge 'profoundly disturbed' by SCOTUS entertaining Trump's total immunity claim
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:59 AM
Saturday
Ex-federal judge 'profoundly disturbed' by SCOTUS entertaining Trump’s total immunity claim - Alternet

on Saturday, the New Republic's Greg Sargent wrote that retired federal judge Judge J. Michael Luttig no longer expects SCOTUS to uphold democracy and the rule of law based on what he heard this week.

"I’m profoundly disturbed about the apparent direction of the court," said Luttig, a conservative jurist President George H.W. Bush appointed to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals in 1991. "I now believe that it is unlikely Trump will ever be tried for the crimes he committed in attempting to overturn the 2020 election."


...EVER.

One vote from the end of democracy': Weissmann sounds alarm on SCOTUS immunity case - MSNBC

Constitutional law scholar lays out the Supreme Court’s rule of lawlessness - Alternet

The disaster that was the Trump v. United States oral argument reminded me of how little the Roberts court has actually cared about rule of law values and legal transparency during its 18-year run. Leaving aside the overturning or narrowing of numerous landmark cases, from abortion to affirmative action to the free exercise of religion, the Roberts court has consistently, in the court's most important and publicized opinions, engaged in subterfuge, sleight of hand and even outright lying.
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