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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums1/2 the protestors arrested in austin were not students
the cops arrested 55 people. 26 of them were not affiliated with the university.
It seems that there was a coordinated effort by outsiders to stir up trouble.
LeftInTX
(25,607 posts)Abbott signed the law in 2019 to pander to all the RW groups that wanted to descend on universities.
What goes around comes around!
Traurigkeit
(293 posts)LeftInTX
(25,607 posts)jimfields33
(16,018 posts)Eko
(7,381 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,518 posts)We need to find out who is funding and organizing them.
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Celerity
(43,589 posts)womanofthehills
(8,783 posts)Is a BIG motivation.
Irish_Dem
(47,518 posts)And brutal pictures of Ukraine, where Putin kills, rapes and tortures women and babies.
The point is they choose one side of brutality to protest.
Why?
Coventina
(27,215 posts)job of kicking out troublemakers and disavowing their statements.
There hasn't been any difference between them, so far.
ripcord
(5,553 posts)The universities first responsibility is that every student should feel safe on campus, the correct amount of anti-semitism allowed on campus should be zero.
Coventina
(27,215 posts)It sure is strange that so far none of the "legitimate non-antisemitic student protesters" haven't bothered to address this at all.
Eko
(7,381 posts)at Pro-Israeli ones they should be shut down.
ripcord
(5,553 posts)The school's first responsibility is to the students and making sure they feel safe.
womanofthehills
(8,783 posts)Of adult huge Jewish man attacking black woman protester holding a sign and shoving her to ground. There will be individual jerks.
The protestors on both sides need to better job policing their protests and disavowing the statements of the troublemakers.
LiberalFighter
(51,170 posts)TBF
(32,111 posts)and they were prepared. Ten to one the funds are coming from Russia and Iran amongst others. I've never felt these were spontaneous efforts by students. There is a lot of history & back story to this particular conflict and even those watching it for a long time probably don't know the half of it.
LeftInTX
(25,607 posts)Much of it began after our response to 9/11
moondust
(20,016 posts)On Monday, long lines formed outside the gates of Columbia as students had to wait to have their IDs scanned at security checkpoints. Some faculty members were at the gates advocating for reporters who had been denied entry.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/22/columbia-university-protests-shutdown
In Massachusetts, a sign said Harvard Yard was closed to the public Monday. It said structures, including tents and tables, were only allowed into the yard with prior permission. Students violating these policies are subject to disciplinary action, the sign said. Security guards were checking people for school IDs.
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https://apnews.com/article/columbia-yale-israel-palestinians-protests-56c3d9d0a278c15ed8e4132a75ea9599
LeftInTX
(25,607 posts)The gates have been locked to outsiders.
I don't know if Harvard has gates.
UT is wide open. It's next to impossible to control access. Additionally Texas state law requires that outside groups protest. (This is because Abbott encouraged RW outside groups to disrupt "liberal" campuses)
OrangeJoe
(350 posts)My niece is at Columbia. She said that the other day Proud Boy founder Gavin McInnes was on campus, allowed in by the administration. I've only seen one small article about this. I can't believe it's not a bigger story.
LeftInTX
(25,607 posts)MichMan
(11,999 posts)LeftInTX
(25,607 posts)jimfields33
(16,018 posts)LeftInTX
(25,607 posts)jimfields33
(16,018 posts)CloudWatcher
(1,851 posts)Not students implies ... not a lot. Could be local Austin folks, could be busloads of actors paid in Rubles.
maxsolomon
(33,432 posts)JVP are not paid by Putin.
Personally, I don't know where they find the time. I've got to work to pay my bills.
TBF
(32,111 posts)probably local activists. Maybe they attend other schools in area or work in area. They are showing up in solidarity. Of course Abbott, fool that he is, was only too eager to send in troops in a show of force. That's who he is - very autocratic.
In Too Deep
(60 posts)I went where the protests were. Especially during the Iraq War.
moniss
(4,274 posts)about "anti-Israeli groups" at Wisconsin universities in the late '70's. Are there some around? Sure and it would be surprising if there weren't. Are there and have there been anti-Palestinian groups around? Sure and it would be surprising if there weren't. It always does make me ponder though how the funding of one group by vested interests is akin to international crime while the funding sources for the others are not to even be asked or spoken.
moniss
(4,274 posts)people traveled all over from campus to campus and supported each other. J. (I've got a secret) Edgar Hoover, Nixon, Agnew, Kissinger, George Wallace etc. were the ones screaming about "outsiders" causing trouble. Many people want to bring that back. They used to use this with intimidating union activities by claiming the organizers were "outsiders" causing "trouble" and "getting people upset". Next thing you know the House will be holding hearings about "un-American" activities on campus.......... Oh, wait.
surfered
(549 posts)which was easier for me as I had already been tear gassed at the University of Texas in 1969. In those days the protests were organized by the SDS (Students for a Democratic Society). Going down memory lane now.
Ping Tung
(739 posts)The gas the DI's put us through was a helluva lot worse than the gas we got from the cops chasing us around campus, But, I was still in shape and could outrun the bastards who wanted to beat patriotism into me.
republianmushroom
(13,749 posts)ecstatic
(32,748 posts)Link to tweet
He was also spotted at a campus protest in Texas. He might very well be funding the efforts. Supposedly all the tents being used across multiple campuses are the same type / style.
LeftInTX
(25,607 posts)drray23
(7,638 posts)You would think people would remember the ratfucking during the blm protests. They caught agitators vandalizing property who had nothing to do with blm.
Think. Again.
(8,526 posts)...remember the hooded guy with the umbrella calmly breaking out store windows that turned out to be a local policeman? Memories.
LeftInTX
(25,607 posts)They seemed pretty benign.
Cops jumped everyone before the protest could even get going, so who knows anything about them?
We have the similar groups in San Antonio. They're annoying and loud more than anything.
I recognize a few of their members from Indivisible.
UT is an open campus.
Think. Again.
(8,526 posts)...that only 10 out of the 100 or so arrested at Columbia were students.
Takket
(21,644 posts)to turn public sentiment against academia. same bullshit stefanik was pulling with the congressional hearings earlier this year with fake concern about "antisemitism" when it is really about breaking the "woke monster" (gop term, not mine)
Ping Tung
(739 posts)The people there were going to a demonstration. Not a class or football game.
David__77
(23,558 posts)rockfordfile
(8,708 posts)Prairie Gates
(1,073 posts)What's this weird need to run an "outside agitator" line? Do you doubt that students are a driving force in these protests?
Voltaire2
(13,213 posts)Im having Nixonian flashbacks.
marble falls
(57,353 posts)TBF
(32,111 posts)UT is a public university, the gates are open. And they should be. Abbott just over-reacted, which is true to character.