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RandySF

(59,206 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 05:12 AM Apr 23

'Burn Tel Aviv to the ground:' Calls for violence continue at Columbia

Calls for violence and terrorism at the Columbia University encampment protests continued to surface on Sunday in footage published by pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian activists.

“[Izz ad-Din] Al-Qassam [Brigades], make us proud, take another soldier out,” anti-Israel demonstrators chanted on Friday night in a video published on social media by pro-Palestinian activist ThizzL. “We say justice, you say how? Burn Tel Aviv to the ground. Go Hamas, we love you. We support your rockets too.”

On Wednesday, in another video published by ThizzL, activists called for Hamas's military wing to "kill another soldier now."

During a speech live streamed by the Palestine Solidarity Working Group on Saturday night, a protest leader said in a speech, "Let it be known that it was the Al-Aqsa Flood that put the global intifada back on the table again. And it is the sacrificial spirit of the Palestinian freedom fighters that will guide every struggle on every corner of the earth to victory."

"Remember that militancy breeds Resistance," said the speaker. "Thousands upon thousands of students around the world have been moved to rebel because of your militancy."



https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-798160




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'Burn Tel Aviv to the ground:' Calls for violence continue at Columbia (Original Post) RandySF Apr 23 OP
Is that subway station near the encampment? ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #1
116th & Broasdway ( 1 train) is just outside the Columbia University gate brooklynite Apr 23 #12
So it's not at the encampment ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #14
Well that makes it okay then! Happy Hoosier Apr 23 #24
I don't see how anyone can defend this... Cha Apr 23 #2
Oops, I posted this in the wrong place. Removed. Joinfortmill Apr 23 #11
That's okay.. And, I'm kicing this thread.. Cha Apr 23 #30
Of course that's what they're saying. Every low-expectation is being met. Oopsie Daisy Apr 23 #3
They support Hamas' rockets. betsuni Apr 23 #4
Violent rhetoric is not "peaceful protest", and one step away from inciting JohnSJ Apr 23 #5
This video is shot on a sidewalk, wouldn't that be public property? ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #8
I am referring to what the article said was happening at the encampments, which JohnSJ Apr 23 #10
fuck militancy eShirl Apr 23 #6
Violence is the self-perpetuating trap of the Middle East. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 23 #7
This is shameful open, raw hate and in no way helps anything. Fuck these assholes. Celerity Apr 23 #9
The world's problems will not be solved by irresponsible slogans Bucky Apr 23 #13
Trying to understad this.... Mossfern Apr 23 #15
Do You Truly RobinA Apr 23 #22
I understand his point Mossfern Apr 23 #26
I think the protesters are seeing this as their Vietnam, but there's no comparison. Vinca Apr 23 #16
Yes. People do not seem to understand the difference. shrike3 Apr 23 #20
Yes! betsuni Apr 23 #23
They were also chanting for intifada Danmel Apr 23 #17
Absolutely.... PCIntern Apr 23 #18
At first I was puzzled by "Burn Tel Aviv to the ground", "We support your rockets" and "kill another soldier" sarisataka Apr 23 #19
I sometimes think there might be people here that want that. BannonsLiver Apr 23 #21
Are these students here on Visas? Happy Hoosier Apr 23 #25
You're assuming these are all students. maxsolomon Apr 23 #27
Burn Tel Aviv to the Ground is unacceptable and hateful. But this is not from Columbia U. protests Nanjeanne Apr 23 #28
They support Hamas? They need to be shipped out of the USA. Or sent to Texas. LiberalFighter Apr 23 #29

Cha

(297,629 posts)
2. I don't see how anyone can defend this...
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 05:38 AM
Apr 23
“[Izz ad-Din] Al-Qassam [Brigades], make us proud, take another soldier out,” anti-Israel demonstrators chanted on Friday night in a video published on social media by pro-Palestinian activist ThizzL. “We say justice, you say how? Burn Tel Aviv to the ground. Go Hamas, we love you. We support your rockets too.”

The Gang Rapists Butchers of Hamas Started this SHIT and do NOT Give a Shit about the Palestinians

There goes the Violent "Protesters" don't support Hamas excuse. As If It Hasn't Been Clear Before.

Fuckers tried to Burn Israel to the Ground on October 7 but they were Stopped.. Fucked Around and Found.

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ETA.. but of course there will be attempts at Distraction.

JohnSJ

(92,384 posts)
5. Violent rhetoric is not "peaceful protest", and one step away from inciting
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 06:24 AM
Apr 23

violence against others

Also, Columbia is private property, and it is up to the school to set the rules for what occurs on their property

JohnSJ

(92,384 posts)
10. I am referring to what the article said was happening at the encampments, which
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 06:55 AM
Apr 23

is on campus, however, any protest calling for violence on public or private land is deplorable, and echos Charlottesville, Virginia

Bucky

(54,065 posts)
13. The world's problems will not be solved by irresponsible slogans
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 07:24 AM
Apr 23

But calls for violence are a barometer of how badly desperate problems have been allowed to fester without solutions.

Just reminds me of how MLK described riots as "the language of the unheard." If you only cluck your tongue and disapproval, you're contributing to the problem as well as to the conflict continuing on the worst possible trajectory

Mossfern

(2,552 posts)
15. Trying to understad this....
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 07:54 AM
Apr 23

You think that violence or violent rhetoric is a valid and useful form of protest?

Mossfern

(2,552 posts)
26. I understand his point
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 01:45 PM
Apr 23

but I don't think that he was condoning violence as a tool, but explaining the reason for it.

There's a difference. Many of these students (protestors) on October 8th,didn't even know what "From the River to the Sea" meant when they were chanting it. They didn't know much of the history of the area nor which river and what sea. They were hardly frustrated from being "unheard."

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
16. I think the protesters are seeing this as their Vietnam, but there's no comparison.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:03 AM
Apr 23

In Vietnam, the United States was directly involved and the President was able to end the war with the stroke of a pen. In this case, Joe Biden does not have the ability to do that. We could cut off every dime to Israel and the war would probably continue. The protesters should be in Tel Aviv, not on American university campuses. All they're doing is ginning up anti-Semitism and support for a terrorist organization, all the while destroying their futures with college expulsions and Internet videos that will follow them forever.

shrike3

(3,767 posts)
20. Yes. People do not seem to understand the difference.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 11:07 AM
Apr 23

Biden is not president of Israel. I am pessimistic, though I'd like to be pleasantly surprised: I don't think this is going to end well for either side.

Danmel

(4,924 posts)
17. They were also chanting for intifada
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:08 AM
Apr 23

The characterization of these "protests" as Pro-Palestinian rather than anti-Israel and anti-Jew infuriates me. They do not want a peaceful resolution with Israel. They want us all dead.

PCIntern

(25,582 posts)
18. Absolutely....
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:23 AM
Apr 23

Did you ever notice that when it comes to “Jooz” there’s always a “good reason” to annihilate us? Also, no matter the horror perpetrated against a Jew or Jews or the Jewish People, after stating the horror, there’s always a “but”.

Hey anti-Semites: try this on for size: Charles Whitman killed a whole bunch of students from the roof of the tower in Texas BUT students are known to be lazy, cheat on their exams and papers, and have illicit sexual relations out of wedlock.

You’d never see that in a paper, would you? Well that’s what’s done to us. Tel Aviv bus bombing in the middle of the day? Well, it’s ok because (fill in the blank).

Pieces of shit.

sarisataka

(18,770 posts)
19. At first I was puzzled by "Burn Tel Aviv to the ground", "We support your rockets" and "kill another soldier"
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:09 AM
Apr 23

since Tel Aviv is not a military base and the rockets are directed at cities full of civilians.

Then I recall what Hamas has said about October 7, "We only targeted current and future members of the IDF". {emphasis mine}
In their eyes there are no Israeli civilians or children. Even infants are, or will be, soldiers so all are valid targets.

The protesters agree with this logic.

Happy Hoosier

(7,386 posts)
25. Are these students here on Visas?
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 12:43 PM
Apr 23

If so, those Visas need to be revoked. Support of terrorism is a red line.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
27. You're assuming these are all students.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 01:55 PM
Apr 23

There seem to be some different factions within the Pro-Palestine protests.

I hope I'm not violating some DU rule by surmising that this militant, pro-Hamas rhetoric is coming from Muslims in the crowd, and not, say, JVP members. Some of them might be students, some of them might be on Student Visas, some of them may not be students at all.

Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
28. Burn Tel Aviv to the Ground is unacceptable and hateful. But this is not from Columbia U. protests
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 02:00 PM
Apr 23

Other than that - no idea what the "Israel Files" is or anything really about the video. Do know this is not a video of any campus encampment. So - agree - these people shouting outside a university near a subway stop are shameful.

LiberalFighter

(51,084 posts)
29. They support Hamas? They need to be shipped out of the USA. Or sent to Texas.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 02:14 PM
Apr 23

Are all of the protestors Columbia University students?

I don't support Netanyahu. Jews as a whole should not be blamed. But it seems they are blamed all the time. They only comprise 15.7 million or 0.2% of the world.

It doesn't seem that the Palestinians are doing anything about the Hamas.

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