Was at the mall a while today. I saw two people with open carry

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pistols. One was a man with a "Let's Go Brandon" shirt and a "III" tattoo on his arm. The other a women dressed in
black wearing a black belt with several magazines and a "Fuck your feelings" shirt. They weren't together. Security
was nowhere to be seen.

[PlutosHeart]

1. What State was this?

I will make sure that I do not visit.

[doc03]

3. Ohio, open carry is legal although there is a note on the door no guns allowed

unless you are authorized to carry. The mall security is not allowed to carry any weapons.

[Skittles]

2. pathetic

imagine feeling everyone needs to know what gun humping cowards you are

[PlutosHeart]

4. And worse is that little or nothing can be done

and many have to just feel fear, horror, shock or any number of emotions and put up with it.
It is oppressive and terribly sad.

I also think it is Saturday night date night. Maybe they got lucky to find each other.

[Trekologer]

5. Might as well be wearing a sign "Free gun if you hit me over the head"

All one would need to do is sneak up behind these doofuses.

[Diamond_Dog]

6. Attention-seeking assholes.

[JoseBalow]

7. Shirt should say "shoot me first"

[hunter]

13. In my city it actually happens.

First of all open carry is illegal. It's also a good way to lose your guns and/or your life.

It's curious how these cosplaying fools actively avoid places where showing off a gun is actually dangerous.

[RKP5637]

51. If I were in a store or something and someone came in like this, I would leave. Any brazen enough

to do this are probably brazen enough to do some serious shit.

[ForgedCrank]

54. These two

people are probably the least likely to pose any danger to anyone. Open carry exposes one to extra scrutiny and a much higher probability of having contact with law enforcement, mainly due to people freaking out over absolutely nothing and calling the cops. I'll bet bank that these two have a spotless criminal history, and have all of their "T"'s crossed.
That fact that they are minding their own business and not spraying bullets everywhere (as some suggest they would be prone to do) tells me there is no ill intent at all.
If I were sitting in a food court eating, I'd much rather have these two behind my back that the person who is freaking out at the mere sight of a firearm.
And as a side note, I find open carry to be a poor choice simply because of the exposure. Yes, it will make you a primary target if there is a case of someone trying to hurt people. Secondly, you have to deal with people who wig out when they see a gun. It does, however, decrease your response time very dramatically. I'm the worst, I carry mine on my ankle and it would take me a long time to retrieve it in the case I ever needed it.

[Kaleva]

28. Fisherman's vests are called that

The shoot me first vest.

[TexasDem69]

8. I've lived in Virginia, Montana, Texas, Georgia and North Carolina

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All open carry states. I’ve seen open carry many, many times. And never been the least concerned about it. Not sure why anyone gets so wound up about someone doing something that is perfectly legal in the vast majority of states.

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9. You don't know if they are a good guy or a bad guy, unless they start shooting. Mall security

can't carry any weapons all they can do is call the sheriff. Who is going to put their life on
the line for minimum wage and they aren't in any kind of shape to fight their way out of a wet paper bag.
At least i haven't seen anyone with an AR 15 yet. I see your favorite topic is Guns.

[TexasDem69]

16. I don't know if anyone is a good guy or bad guy

And I still don’t get worried about it. Maybe they are law enforcement? Maybe not, but they aren’t breaking the law.

[Tickle]

18. I feel safe when I see

open carrying. I get nervous when I know someone is packing and hiding.

[hunter]

61. I've lived in some rough places, and I've been in some rough situations.

I've seen cops shoot people who didn't need shooting. I've also seen cops firing their weapons recklessly.

I don't trust cops to use their guns appropriately. Why would I feel any safer around random armed strangers who are so obviously idiots?

[Wonder Why]

38. They are "bad guys". More likely to spray their bullets anywhere or run if a "bad guy" starts shooting or kill an

innocent person than get the other "bad guy". "Good guys" don't go around advertising their hate mongering. Good guys don't show off.

One can always call security and report you saw someone with a gun and where they were in the mall then hang up and leave (before the police arrive to stop people from leaving) and let them handle it. After all, you know they have dangerous weapons and you don't know why.

[BootinUp]

11. Friend, shopping malls are no place for guns. nt

[TexasDem69]

19. Sure, but still legal

Open carry is a silly thing, but it’s legal.

[Sky Jewels]

25. It's legal, but it's still insanity

This country has lost its mind. Gun humpers have destroyed our peace of mind. No other “advanced “ country puts up with this lunacy.

[bottomofthehill]

30. Not legal if the mall is posted no firearms.

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31. I agree open carry is a stupid thing. There may have been ten people there with

a concealed weapon, I don't care. They only reason they open carry is to say "Look at me I am a MAGA".
If I am going to the mall to murder someone, who is the first person I take out? There were towns in the old
west where you had to turn in guns. I have had a concealed carry permit for about 13 years. In that time I carried it
just one day because I thought there could be a possible need for it. I don't live in fear to think I need a gun to
go shopping.

[edhopper]

35. It's only legal

because of our fascist Supreme Court. The same logic says, "So what, abortion is illegal, why worry".
Because allowing people to walk around with guns is insane, that is why.

[NickB79]

44. State open carry laws have been around in most states for decades now

I saw a guy open carrying at a Menards in Minnesota 10 yr ago.

It's not due to the current USSC composition. States decide if you have to conceal or open carry, not the federal government.

[senseandsensibility]

58. A lot of things (most obviously slavery)

have been legal in our country over the years. Doesn't mean they were right or "safe". Legal things can also be stupid and dangerous as well as unfair.

[BuddhaGirl]

12. How are people to know if they are going to

shoot off those guns or not? Malls are no place for open carry. People are killed with guns.

Open carry is stupid and unnecessary imo.

[Butterflylady]

15. They might be legal,

But also stupid.

[Captain Stern]

26. Same here.

Most states are open carry states.

I don't own a gun, and even if I did, I don't think I'd carry it around with me. If there's a place that I think I'd actually need a gun, I just don't go there to begin with.

That said, I've never been scared of other people carrying their guns with them. I guess they have their reasons, and their reasons really aren't any of my business.

[sanatanadharma]

10. Open carry is the best camouflage a mass killer can wear

Open carry is the best way for mass killers to hide their intentions.

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14. Concealed carry is also legal in Ohio with no permit, they only reason

I see to open carry is just to intimidate people. They guy had a Three Percenter Militia tattoo, you know
the ones that went to the Capitol to hang the VP and Congress.

[Tickle]

20. I know the 1 percenters

Who are the 3 percenters?

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33. Here they are and a III tattoo is their badge of honor I guess. There were

several involved in the J6 insurection.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Percenters

[Tickle]

41. Sometimes I actually think I'm

safe in a good place. Then a wonderful person throws me a link and I'm reminded to always be aware of my surroundings. 😉☺️

[Kaleva]

24. How do you spot a mass killer who is conceal carrying?

[Emile]

17. Fascists have no shame.

[Ping Tung]

21. It's amazing how much trouble some people go to trying to convince thenselves

that they're really not frightened of ordinary people most of the time.

[Baitball Blogger]

22. The laws are allowing irresponsible people to carry guns.

We'll never be able to tell the good guys from the bad guys once the shooting begins.

[Kaleva]

23. Open carry is legal in Michigan

I live in the he boonies of the state and have yet to see anyone open carrying. From what I hear from others, it's.more common further south in the urban areas.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

45. It does seem more common in the metro detroit area

Up north I occasionally see it, usually around hunting season. But maybe only once each year around then. Granted, I'm up north maybe for all of 5-6 weeks per year.

Around Metro Detroit area, I very rarely see openly carried rifles, usually if I do its because one of the open carry groups is having some event nearby. Handguns, I see openly carried a couple times a month though. Some could be LE or security, but others are very obviously not. Nearly always men, but a mix of races so it's not always white males who open carry, at least here around Detroit.

[Kaleva]

56. I didn't count I see out hunting

Awhile ago, I was in a discussion with a DUer who lives downstate. He told me he often sees people open carrying but he lived in a more urban area whereas I live in the Upper Peninsula where about 3% of states population lives.

[Elessar Zappa]

55. It's the opposite where I live.

I only see people carrying in small towns, I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone toting in a city here (it might happen but I haven’t seen it).

[Kaleva]

57. It might be regional. What state do you live in?

I sometimes goes to northern WI which is south of me and I don't recall seeing anyone open carrying there either

[Elessar Zappa]

59. NM.

I live in Silver City but am in Albuquerque frequently.

[FarPoint]

27. Good excuse for me to NOT go to the Mall...

How are we going to fix this?


Ohhhh I know.....we will stand strong, elect Joe Biden for his second term, retake the House, and keep the Senate in November...

[gab13by13]

29. These are the same people

who keep loaded guns in their homes. I asked a few of the gun humpers why they are so afraid that they feel the need to keep loaded guns throughout their homes when I don't lock my doors. They replied to me that they are not afraid because they keep loaded guns in their homes.

[Oopsie Daisy]

32. Ugh. I've seen folks like that too. (What's the significance of the III tattoo?)

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34. They are a right wing malitia group, many were involved in the

J6 insurection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Percenters

[True Dough]

36. The III signifies

their IQ.

[dclarston13]

37. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume they were white folks

I have never seen a person of color open carry. Just saying, it's probably a coincidence, right??

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

46. Come to Detroit

You will see it here.

[link:https://news.yahoo.com/armed-with-rifles-a-mudroots-detroit-group-new-era-crime-182026014.html]

In the Metro Detroit area I see all races open carry. Nearly always men though, unless it's a actual open carry rally or whatever.

[Ontheboundry]

39. I have a ccp

I was also in the army for a long time, and am well-trained. Open carry people always scare me, because most (if not all) I see, would piss their pants and/or kill some kid accidently. Confident gun owners don't have a need to show everyone their guns. I don't even carry mine all the time but when I do, nobody knows it's there but me

Most also have a big knife somewhere on their belt also. I

[Tickle]

42. Good point NT 👍

[Prairie_Seagull]

40. The important thing just now is, IMO

is this showing a trend, an increase. I am pretty sure I have seen an increase here in Spokane Wa. Tiny sample size but there it is. Eyes open everyone.

IMO

[PJMcK]

43. Pathetic behavior

Please show me the overwhelming statistics of “good guys” with guns taking out “bad guys” with guns. Let’s compare those numbers with those of domestic violence, suicides and mass shootings.

Guns do not protect citizens. Guns create far more problems.

[yagotme]

48. "Guns do not protect citizens."

So, if you're at the mall, someone starts shooting, who are you going to call? Someone with a cheesecake, or that carries a gun for a living?

[JanMichael]

47. I am appalled by the yahoos in this country

I don't care if it is concealed up their ass or strapped on their back they are not who I want to be around.

I forgot to add that if the US was a person I would expect it to be wearing camo and and an AR-15 over the shoulder with a flag and eagle face tattoo driving a rusted out Humvee.

[sarisataka]

49. You have seen in one day more than twice

What I usually see in a year.

It never really bothers me as mass shooters typically don't go shopping before the killings. So if I see one in a store with a gun in a holster I can assume at least neutral, i.e. not a bad guy

[Ontheboundry]

53. This is probably true

Even if I don't trust open carry people cuz it's a bad flex, they probably have no bad intentions

[Silent Type]

52. I consider anyone openly carrying a pistol a deplorable POS, along the lines of George Zimmerman and Kyle Rittenhouse.

[Blues Heron]

60. Its inherently dangerous to be in proximity to any gun, best thing is to put distance between you and the gun

Mall might be losing customers here and there if these people do this regularly. Doesnt seem like a very intelligent business move to disrespect your customers by allowing this.