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Voltaire2

(13,245 posts)
2. Well my guess is the evidence is overwhelming
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:03 AM
Apr 20

and incontestable, so the only question is the integrity of the jurors.

TwilightZone

(25,512 posts)
5. "surely he will be convicted on at least a couple"
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:07 AM
Apr 20

The charges are all related, so he's more likely to either be found guilty of all of them or none of them. It's not as though they are 34 disparate charges. They're all for falsifying records.

Mark.b2

(261 posts)
8. 0%...he will be convicted and jailed in this case
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:23 AM
Apr 20

they chose the right venue, and assigning Judge Merchan was the genius move. And Merchan has assembled an a jury of the people you’d want.

Bragg piling on 34 felonies, well more that he‘d really need, makes being founfd guilty on at least a virtual certitude.

It's all the more satisfying the weakest case will be the one that takes care of things.

unblock

(52,441 posts)
10. Too many unknowns. On the surface, you have to think the prosecution wouldn't have brought this particular case unless
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:32 AM
Apr 20

they felt it was solid. Prosecutors don't like losing but particularly don't like losing on national tv. That said it's always possible they missed something or f*ck it up.

Moreover, Donnie knows where the bodies are buried and they may be able to impeach witnesses very effectively. Any witnesses are probably crooks themselves, after all michael cohen, e.g.). That said, the checks and the numbers and filings are what they are.

And of course, it's impossible to estimate how jurors will react to the high-profile defendant and case and jury intimidation. That may be the biggest unknown.

To me, it's almost impossible to imagine there wont be at least one juror that's reluctant to be known as someone who voted to convict given the threats from MAGA generally and any specific threats made to these jurors specifically. The question is will they be stubborn or go with the 10-11 who say cmon you gotta do it you know he's guilty.

Can't put a number on that.

Johonny

(20,942 posts)
11. Wont even see the case laid out until Monday
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:33 AM
Apr 20

The conviction chances feel impossible to know. The money trail is all simple enough to follow. How it leads to a felony might not be. A lot of "experts" think the felony charges are a stretch. But we haven't really heard what Trump is up against yet to know.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
12. At least we know this
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:35 AM
Apr 20

He will be spending months in court rooms, and the press will learn more and more sordid details about his everyday behavior.

unblock

(52,441 posts)
14. FWIW, this site says jury trials have a 14% acquittal rate
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:41 AM
Apr 20
https://www.doarlaw.com/blog/2021/04/what-you-should-know-about-the-federal-governments-conviction-rate/

That said most cases get plea bargained, and my sense is that Donnie couldn't possibly accept a deal, except maybe if it involved a fine only. But even then, his circumstances make the plea scenario challenging. So a case that might have been pled down gets thrown into the trial by jury scenario. So maybe there's a bias towards a higher conviction rate in this case. Maybe.

But the star-struck high-profile aspect of the case is a big unknown.
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