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Tom of Temecula

(1,198 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 09:57 AM Apr 20

'He's going to pop': Warning given about Trump's age and stress during hush money trial

During an MSNBC panel discussion about Donald Trump's upcoming hearing on contempt charges related to attacks made on jurors and witnesses in his hush money trial, a former prosecutor predicted the former president is headed for a major meltdown. Speaking with the hosts of "The Weekend," Charles Coleman Jr. suggested the trial that will commence next week in the Manhattan courtroom of Judge Juan Merchan will be long and intense and that Trump's age and ability to deal with the stress could be a major factor.

Asked what he predicts will happen in the coming week when opening statements will be presented and the first witnesses will be called, Coleman went in a different direction about how the trial is weighing on the embattled ex-president. "Donald Trump is not used to being in spaces where there are narratives advancing about him that he cannot counteract and that is exactly why he has so much trouble with this gag order," he told the hosts.

"There are things being said about him and he feels as if his hands are tied: he cannot stand the feeling," he elaborated. "And I joked about it at the beginning of the last segment. The truth is that trial is a very long, arduous and exhausting process. For someone of his age, it is a lot of stress to deal with. That is why I fully expect, regardless of what happens with Judge Juan Merchan's recent ruling this week, he is going to pop."

"He is going to violate the gag order in grand fashion in front of the media and I think it will come sooner rather than later because it is not a position he is used to being in," he added before suggesting, "If I'm the prosecutor in this case, I'm going to sit back and let it happen."



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'He's going to pop': Warning given about Trump's age and stress during hush money trial (Original Post) Tom of Temecula Apr 20 OP
He won't be able to keep his mouth shut pfitz59 Apr 20 #1
I cannot disagree with what this former prosecutor is saying. Irish_Dem Apr 20 #2
His minions will act out as well. hadEnuf Apr 20 #4
Yes I agree. And the danger level will increase. Irish_Dem Apr 20 #8
i only hope when they decide to get violent that we end up with all "Ashlee Babbets" and no "Brian Sicknicks" Takket Apr 20 #60
Charles Coleman is correct here. ProudMNDemocrat Apr 20 #13
He's going to poop, too. Kid Berwyn Apr 20 #3
You can't make this shit up. Joinfortmill Apr 20 #48
What is tRump? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 20 #49
🤣 BlueKota Apr 20 #63
Narcissists always seek to avoid consequences. More orange won't help. bucolic_frolic Apr 20 #5
I believe he is headed for a cardiovascular or cerebrovascular event PCIntern Apr 20 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Apr 20 #9
I keep wondering how he made it this long. ananda Apr 20 #23
The devil is watching over him! kimbutgar Apr 20 #32
Faustian evemac Apr 20 #33
Exactly kimbutgar Apr 20 #35
Well, he certainly has the devil in him. ananda Apr 20 #45
And physically decomposing (nt) Pluvious Apr 20 #38
Please stop teasing me Conjuay Apr 20 #56
He looks more awful than usual. NH Ethylene Apr 20 #7
If I had a dollar for every DU post predicting his imminent demise, I'd have more money than Trump onenote Apr 20 #10
Came here to say this. Arthur_Frain Apr 20 #16
It isn't a perp walk, but seeing him essentially "chained" to that chair, RandomNumbers Apr 20 #24
Even if he were to experience a medical event and not survive... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 20 #11
The executor of his estate could and would continue to pursue the appeal onenote Apr 20 #17
I wonder if he even has a will CanonRay Apr 20 #30
Not with a bang but a whimper. From T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men Ping Tung Apr 20 #12
But, before the whimper, a series of bangs in the form of his disgusting farts. Sky Jewels Apr 20 #15
I'm picturing a sulfuric explosion of Sky Jewels Apr 20 #14
Or this? ProudMNDemocrat Apr 20 #19
Ha ha, quite so. Sky Jewels Apr 20 #22
.... plus mashed potatoes with extra extra gravy. magicarpet Apr 20 #51
I don't give a flying fuck malaise Apr 20 #18
Pop goes the weasel Chautauquas Apr 20 #20
Beat me to it! H2O Man Apr 20 #26
Don't threaten me with a good time. tanyev Apr 20 #21
I hope he does so we can all party like it's 1999! Doodley Apr 20 #25
Does blowing a gasket count? /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 20 #27
Thar he blows!!! Blue Owl Apr 20 #28
Trump is usually only seen under his terms. He's stuck in court with everyone watching all day with no way to brewens Apr 20 #29
For someone so maliciously narcissistic, the trial functions like an intervention wnylib Apr 20 #36
Sit back and let it happen... ecstatic Apr 20 #31
I think JustAnotherGen Apr 20 #34
Yep. I'd suggest a minute of Joe laughing and shaking his head. RussellCattle Apr 20 #40
. Takket Apr 20 #62
I may be wrong, but I always see something of a performative art in Trump's antics. I think.... RussellCattle Apr 20 #37
Even of this guy hadn't been POTUS, this case would still be before the court. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 20 #39
"It's wafer thin" nt gulliver Apr 20 #41
He's being a undisciplined toddler since literally having been an undisciplined toddler and it continues to this day. Texin Apr 20 #42
disagree (partially). if I'm a prosecutor I want to win this stopdiggin Apr 20 #43
Just like Traildogbob Apr 20 #44
I'm not sure how he keeps going. He may be hopped up on drugs, but he has a body and he's not giving it PortTack Apr 20 #46
I've said it before and I'll say it again Blue Idaho Apr 20 #47
GOOD Skittles Apr 20 #50
He will pop at which time due to how he acts in front of the jury a mistrial will be declared giving him Eliot Rosewater Apr 20 #52
Sounds messy, that does Hekate Apr 20 #53
The man is sitting in his own shit as he is being.. Botany Apr 20 #54
No sweat! Trump's doctors swear by his superb fitness. Even that bone spur seems to have healed itself. keithbvadu2 Apr 20 #55
We prefer to call it "an uncontrolled spontaneous deflation." Buns_of_Fire Apr 20 #57
Let Me Out! I Want Out! AuntyGravity Apr 20 #58
the guy who constantly calls his opponents "low energy" couldn't make it through a few days without falling asleep Takket Apr 20 #59
I was going to post a clip from Monty Python's The Meaning of Life DBoon Apr 20 #61

pfitz59

(10,391 posts)
1. He won't be able to keep his mouth shut
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:00 AM
Apr 20

when Stormy and others tell their sordid tales. The man has no filter or off switch.

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
2. I cannot disagree with what this former prosecutor is saying.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:06 AM
Apr 20

I think Trump is going to feel more and more angry and out of control.
Feeling confined and dictated to by others.

People will tell the truth about him in stark ways he cannot face.

Trump is going to act out more and in very aggressive ways.


Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
8. Yes I agree. And the danger level will increase.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:23 AM
Apr 20

I hope the judge understands that.
He holds a mental health court, so he knows how things work.
And knows mental health professionals, I hope he is listening to them about Trump.

Takket

(21,629 posts)
60. i only hope when they decide to get violent that we end up with all "Ashlee Babbets" and no "Brian Sicknicks"
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:32 PM
Apr 20

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,793 posts)
13. Charles Coleman is correct here.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:34 AM
Apr 20

Speaking as a former Prosecutor. Glenn Kirschner has said the same thing as well.

The more TSF talks, the more he seals his fate that there are realities he no longer has control over.

bucolic_frolic

(43,295 posts)
5. Narcissists always seek to avoid consequences. More orange won't help.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:14 AM
Apr 20

J6 was an attempt to avoid outcomes. What will he try here?

PCIntern

(25,584 posts)
6. I believe he is headed for a cardiovascular or cerebrovascular event
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:17 AM
Apr 20

His appearance resembles that of an individual whose physiology is decompensating.

Response to PCIntern (Reply #6)

ananda

(28,876 posts)
23. I keep wondering how he made it this long.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:53 AM
Apr 20

Just what is keeping him alive?

He is one the most unhealthy individuals and yet
he just keeps going.

Sheesh!

ananda

(28,876 posts)
45. Well, he certainly has the devil in him.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:46 PM
Apr 20

I wonder if meanness keeps him alive longer.

I just can't figure it out.

NH Ethylene

(30,817 posts)
7. He looks more awful than usual.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:18 AM
Apr 20

Just putting in 6 or 8 hours days is likely too much for him, not even counting all the stress.

He may 'pop' in more ways than one.

onenote

(42,767 posts)
10. If I had a dollar for every DU post predicting his imminent demise, I'd have more money than Trump
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:25 AM
Apr 20

Although I suppose at some point one of those predictions will turn out to be right.

Arthur_Frain

(1,859 posts)
16. Came here to say this.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:43 AM
Apr 20

Been waiting to see a significant perp-walk since Mueller. Simply never happened. I'm not going to hold my breath here either.

RandomNumbers

(17,600 posts)
24. It isn't a perp walk, but seeing him essentially "chained" to that chair,
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:58 AM
Apr 20

is quite satisfying. For now at least.

If he ultimately goes away without a conviction here, that will be highly annoying; but at least he has had to endure some tiny fraction of what a normal person would have to deal with if they broke the law. It's not a lot but it's WAY more than he feels he should be subjected to, and that's something at least.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,793 posts)
11. Even if he were to experience a medical event and not survive...
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:27 AM
Apr 20

His estate, or what is left of it after litigants(E Jean Carroll, the state of New York), creditors, and banks get their money, nothing will remain for his family. The 2 daughters are sitting just fine. The 3 sons? That's another story.

onenote

(42,767 posts)
17. The executor of his estate could and would continue to pursue the appeal
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:50 AM
Apr 20

So it would be a while before the judgment could be enforced.

CanonRay

(14,118 posts)
30. I wonder if he even has a will
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 12:23 PM
Apr 20

That would involve imagining his own death, and I'm not sure he's capable of that. Just a thought.

Ping Tung

(686 posts)
12. Not with a bang but a whimper. From T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:34 AM
Apr 20

Trump's going down. But I think it will be with a bang then a whimper.

magicarpet

(14,175 posts)
51. .... plus mashed potatoes with extra extra gravy.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 09:39 PM
Apr 20

.... pass on the coleslaw,.. that's a veggie,... it might be construed as being too healthy.



brewens

(13,622 posts)
29. Trump is usually only seen under his terms. He's stuck in court with everyone watching all day with no way to
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 12:23 PM
Apr 20

hide what people around him see every day. Falling asleep and shitting his pants are just the start. For a rally, he's fired up enough and with a fresh diaper can make it through okay. Weeks of having to control himself in court probably isn't going to turn out well.

He's having to follow the court rules all day every day. That's the worst thing that can happen to a dumbass authoritarian f-stain. Nothing brings out the man baby better.

wnylib

(21,611 posts)
36. For someone so maliciously narcissistic, the trial functions like an intervention
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 12:52 PM
Apr 20

does with someone who has a substance addiction. Only worse, maybe, because Trump will (or already does) feel paranoid about so many people presenting facts that he can't face and yet can't escape hearing. He can't interrupt with his usual spin and talking over others to project his own version of himself. He will (or already does) feel trapped and cornered.

Desperate to escape feeling trapped, he will resort to escalattion of verbal attacks and attempts to create violence on his behalf through RW media and political followers. If unable to do that, he will collapse in on himself, like a building being demolished.

For the sake of the nation and the world, I prefer the demolished building outcome.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
31. Sit back and let it happen...
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 12:30 PM
Apr 20

I know there's nothing the prosecutor can do beyond what he's already been doing, which is to demand accountability and consequences when trump violates the gag order. But someone's life will be put at risk when the MF does pop. That's the unfortunate part.

JustAnotherGen

(31,902 posts)
34. I think
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 12:41 PM
Apr 20

For every minute of "mini press conferences" he gives entering and exiting the courtroom on publicly owned property (courthouse) the media needs to give equal time to the Biden Campaign.

RussellCattle

(1,535 posts)
37. I may be wrong, but I always see something of a performative art in Trump's antics. I think....
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 12:54 PM
Apr 20

......that, to some extent, he plays “Crazy Trump” to keep others off balance in their dealings with him. The idea that he is chained to his chair in the courtroom and can’t stand being made to just keep quiet and listen, may be somewhat less burdensome to him than we might hope. I really hope that I’m wrong, though, and that he either has a massive stroke or goes nuts and they have to restrain and sedate him with elephant tranquilizer.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
39. Even of this guy hadn't been POTUS, this case would still be before the court.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 12:55 PM
Apr 20

Once he declared his candidacy, he was subject to rules and regulations. And he thrives on breaking rules. But it's the people he warped along the way that is his biggest malfeasance.. it's beyond evil. He's earned his place on Hell. He broke America. Popping or no popping.

Do you suppose he is on Xanax?

Texin

(2,597 posts)
42. He's being a undisciplined toddler since literally having been an undisciplined toddler and it continues to this day.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:00 PM
Apr 20

stopdiggin

(11,370 posts)
43. disagree (partially). if I'm a prosecutor I want to win this
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:04 PM
Apr 20

(or any other case) on its merits. Not waiting for a gag order to be breached. The latter may serve up some satisfaction for the frustrated public - the prosecution is looking for a conviction on charges brought.

Traildogbob

(8,812 posts)
44. Just like
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:04 PM
Apr 20

The engorged, pus filled anus boil he is. Stand back and stand down, when it blows, because it will splatter everything in the country. Every single person will get some on them.
But the release may ease the pain in the ass he is.

PortTack

(32,794 posts)
46. I'm not sure how he keeps going. He may be hopped up on drugs, but he has a body and he's not giving it
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:53 PM
Apr 20

Anything to keep it going.

Blue Idaho

(5,057 posts)
47. I've said it before and I'll say it again
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 02:16 PM
Apr 20

I give him seven years - tops. Three of those being on a post stroke debilitated state.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
52. He will pop at which time due to how he acts in front of the jury a mistrial will be declared giving him
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 09:47 PM
Apr 20

even more time to stall so he can get in the WH and stop it all.

Botany

(70,585 posts)
54. The man is sitting in his own shit as he is being..
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 09:49 PM
Apr 20

... exposed as a liar on everything and a crook.
May the stress be so great that he "strokes out." This trial is just the start of his hellish stream of criminal and civil actions against him and all the time he will have some Judge telling him what he can and cannot do as his former people testify against him.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,196 posts)
57. We prefer to call it "an uncontrolled spontaneous deflation."
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:03 PM
Apr 20

It's nicer than saying "he farted himself to death."

Takket

(21,629 posts)
59. the guy who constantly calls his opponents "low energy" couldn't make it through a few days without falling asleep
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:30 PM
Apr 20

he might seem energetic TO SOME PEOPLE but that is because we only see him for a few hours a week at rallies populated by his cult. The reality is he is extremely unhealthy physically and mentally and having no place to hide for the next few weeks is going to take its toll on him.

DBoon

(22,397 posts)
61. I was going to post a clip from Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:32 PM
Apr 20

Titled "Mr. Creosote Blows"

But it was too gross even as a comparison to Trump

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