Will Mike Johnson Bring The 95 Billion Ukraine Aid Package Up For A Vote

[gab13by13]

I am extremely skeptical. I do not believe he has the courage. The Trump/Putin party will not allow it.

Hope to hell I am wrong. Zelenskyy is even asking for it to be a loan.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

1. All Johnson needs is for several Republicans and all the Democrats to support aid to Ukraine.

Those who oppose aid had better state WHY they support Vladimir Putin than democracy and FREEDOM for Ukraine.

[getagrip_already]

3. All the dems wont, not with aid for israel in there

The hamas wing of the party won't vote for it.

So we would need about 10-15 gop votes.

[ColinC]

7. "Hamas wing??" Seriously?!😒

[getagrip_already]

8. What would you call reps who refuse to vote to condemn hamas

Specififically hamas, for rape and murder during to October attacks?

Just askin?

[ColinC]

9. So you are calling Democrats terrorists?

[getagrip_already]

10. No, where did you get that?

But their sympathies seem to lay in strange camps.

And many will not support the aid package because it includes aid for Israel.

[ColinC]

11. "Hamas Wing" -Hamas are terrorists

You are saying their loyalties are with Hamas, no?

[getagrip_already]

12. Im saying they wouldnt vote to condemn hamas...

And they refuse to criticize or even acknowledge in some cases the horrors of 10/7.

You can draw your own conclusions.

I'm not claiming anything.

[ColinC]

15. No that's not what you said. You said "Hamas wing" suggesting they are a wing of the party for Hamas

Or are you saying they are not actually a Hamas wing and were just using hyperbole to smear democrats?

[getagrip_already]

17. You are really stretching words here.....

A wing doesn't mean what you are implying it means.

There are those whose sympathies for hamas prevent them from voting for this bill.

To me, that constitutes a wing. You can call it what you want.

[ColinC]

20. "Sympathies for hamas"

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So you think many Democrats are sympathizing with a terrorist organization?

That sounds about the same as what I interpreted.

[getagrip_already]

21. Many? You are stretching again....

A few. But enough that we will need to replace those votes to pass the bill.

There are also some who have differing opinions on military aid that has nothing to do with hamas. Those votes will also need to be overcome.

[ColinC]

22. Who, exactly?

What Democrats do you believe have sympathies with a terrorist organization?

Bernie Sanders voted against the Israel/ Ukraine funding bill. Is Bernie a terrorist sympathizer?

[Polybius]

16. What about the Netanyahu wing?

Wanting to send weapons to Israel is fine with you?

[getagrip_already]

18. I hate netanyahu.....

But let's not mix evils here. You can still condemn hamas even while condemning Netanyahu.

And the administration will curb shipments if it comes to that.

Plus there is over $10 B in humanitarian aid in that package. That will go a long way to rebuilding.

But that isn't the issue if you can't even vote to condemn rape and murder, or even acknowledge it.

[Polybius]

23. I agree that Netanyahu stinks

And Hamas stinks a lot more. So I guess we're sorta on the same page.

[getagrip_already]

2. The bill isnt written as a loan, so it couldnt be....

But regardless, the howler monkey sounds like she is going to try to evict him either way, so he has decisions to make.

The only way the dems will shield him is if he plays ball. Otherwise he is in the ring with the monkeys.

Damned if he does, out if he doesnt.

[Walleye]

4. I guess it depends on if he wants to be called Moscow Mike

[gab13by13]

6. Maybe he prefers to be called Moscow Mike

and not get death threats?

[Walleye]

19. Yep, I think a lot of this comes down to Republican cowardice

[MOMFUDSKI]

5. Depends on who is threatening to put him.

And how serious they are about it

[getagrip_already]

13. Its largely the howler monkey...

Mtg. She has entered a bill to vacate the speakership but hasn't requested it be advanced for a vote.

Now she is saying she is very close to doing that.

She is also close to a bowel movement, so she may just be confused. We won't know for sure until she actually releases the bill for a vote.

[Bettie]

14. Didn't Marge tell him "no"?

I think she's the boss of him.

[Initech]

24. Nope. Like the rest of the MAGA Qlowns in Congress, he's on Putin's and Murdoch's payroll.

He won't budge because it's what the MAGA Christofascist Fox News cult wants. Fuck 'em all.