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Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 02:47 PM Apr 8

The US govt should invest in 15 min cities.

Moderately densely populated cities with good, clean, and safe public transportation. These cities should be walkable and car independent. Every state should have at least one 15 min city although it may not be possible nor practical for every state.

The best place to start building these cities would be college towns. Large state universities will always have a sizeable population. Building more high density housing would be great for students and recent grads to start their lives and build strong social networks. This would also be good for our aging population. Gets them off the road and allows them to be more independent.

The 15 min city should be our priority this century much like building highways and suburban sprawl was last century's priority.

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The US govt should invest in 15 min cities. (Original Post) Yavin4 Apr 8 OP
I live in one -- my wife and I love it obamanut2012 Apr 8 #1
Sounds awesome. Yavin4 Apr 8 #2
I loved traveling around london by tube Chakaconcarne Apr 8 #3
Lol! I live in one. It's awesome. But the last Scrivener7 Apr 8 #4
It would be wise to think of another name; the conspiracy theorists already made stupid claims about it in the UK muriel_volestrangler Apr 8 #5
They're idiots. Yavin4 Apr 8 #6

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
1. I live in one -- my wife and I love it
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 02:50 PM
Apr 8

We kept her car, because it's newer than mine was, but we rarely use it. Light Rail, bikes, and shank's mare work terrific for us! Work, fun, errands, doctor's, etc.

Scrivener7

(51,018 posts)
4. Lol! I live in one. It's awesome. But the last
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 03:23 PM
Apr 8

time the subject came up on DU, I was treated to lots of very nasty and stunningly ignorant comments about multi-unit housing. My favorite: "I'd rather live out of a shopping cart than live in an apartment."


Also, apparently, apartments are smelly. Who knew?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,367 posts)
5. It would be wise to think of another name; the conspiracy theorists already made stupid claims about it in the UK
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 05:52 PM
Apr 8

and they persuaded the (increasingly-desperate) Tories to listen to them:

Speaking at the Conservative Party conference on Monday, Transport Secretary Mark Harper said he was "calling time on the misuse of so-called '15-minute cities'".
...
"What is sinister and what we shouldn't tolerate is the idea that local councils can decide how often you go to the shops and that they ration who uses the roads and when, and they police it all with CCTV."
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The creator of "15-minute cities", urban planner Carlos Moreno, issued a statement later on Monday calling on the government to reconsider its stance.

"Associating the '15-minute city' again with so-called 'liberty-restricting' measures is tantamount to aligning with the most radical and anti-democratic elements," he wrote.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66990302

Sound idyllic? Not if you’re Rishi Sunak. The prime minister used an interview before this week’s party conference to “hit out” at the 15-minute city concept, saying there was a “relentless attack” on motorists who “depend on their cars to get to work, take their kids to school, do their shopping, see the doctor” – ignoring that this dependence is exactly what the model aims to reduce.

The transport secretary, Mark Harper, went further, telling delegates the 15-minute cities concept was “a Labour-backed movement … to remove your freedom to get from A to B how you want.
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The Tories may be reaching to the right amid desperate polling numbers, but their explicit evocation of a known conspiracy theory is new territory. In an interview with the BBC, energy minister Andrew Bowie said local authorities were “dictating to people that they must choose to access services within 15 minutes of their house”. Challenged that this was a “pretend argument”, Bowie said the issue was “coming up in discussions on forums online”.

“I can’t really think of another example where we’ve had the government in this country lean into a conspiracy,” said Daniel Jolley, an assistant professor in social psychology at the university of Nottingham, who researches conspiracy theories and their social impact. “The government hasn’t generally played into conspiratorial narrative – on Covid for instance, or climate change – so this seems to be a unique spin.”

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2023/oct/07/15-minute-cities-rishi-sunak-tories-conspiracy-theory

You know that if the Tories have bought into the conspiracy theories, then the Republicans will make it 10 times worse. It needs a new name, or the US media coverage will be swamped with conspiracy theories before there's a chance to explain what it actually means.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
6. They're idiots.
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 08:56 PM
Apr 8

We shouldn't kowtow to idiots. Changing the name of global warming to climate change didn't change any minds.

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