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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hope Ari asks Carville about his 'too many preachy Democratic women' bollocks
Ocelot II
(115,741 posts)He's rarely confrontational; he's more likely to go off on some tangent where he can quote rap lyrics. I will be pleasantly surprised if he brings it up.
hlthe2b
(102,297 posts)'Too many interviews with professional women--especially other accomplished female lawyers--where he gets a bit too condescending for it all to be mere legal or technical disagreement. Yes, it could just be his increasingly large ego, but my "inner detector" sends me signals otherwise.
On edit: Looks like we were wrong. He did confront Carville about it. Go figure.
JohnSJ
(92,233 posts)he was always for womens issues, and would be happy to appear with AOC to discuss this.
hlthe2b
(102,297 posts)I'd tune in.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)It was major outcomes.
dem4decades
(11,297 posts)Ari has his faults but dissing women isn't one of them.
hlthe2b
(102,297 posts)And yes, he not infrequently shows condescension to those he feels either "superior" to or conversely insecure. Of course, he has to feign the respect these women deserve--including expectations of the network and workplace. But, it does come out at times.
He's polished about it which may have convinced you otherwise, but I have had to deal with it in my professional work my entire life. Perhaps you are far younger or work in very different environs to be fortunate not to have experienced it. Tempered behavior based on the setting and what is expected does not mask all the behavior.
dem4decades
(11,297 posts)hlthe2b
(102,297 posts)He bends over backward to be respectful to the men with whom he is directly countering--even if they are obvious liars and/or likely criminals.
Ocelot II
(115,741 posts)JohnSJ
(92,233 posts)against womens issues, and would be glad to appear one on one with AOC to debate it.
Ocelot II
(115,741 posts)JohnSJ
(92,233 posts)Celerity
(43,419 posts)Carville did his good ol boy aw shucks I am controversial blah blah shite
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Coventina
(27,121 posts)TSExile
(2,451 posts)...Ari is by far the weakest link. I definitely have gotten the misogynistic vibe from him as well.
Celerity
(43,419 posts)TSExile
(2,451 posts)...and glad he did confront Carville.
hlthe2b
(102,297 posts)I do not dislike him sufficiently to stop watching. He can be quite good, but he can also be insufferable.
dem4decades
(11,297 posts)SupportSanity
(152 posts)He wasn't talking about his own personal viewpoint.
He was saying that there is a problem with male democrats and how they are seeing things at this time.
I have read Carville's interview several times.
The only thing he's guilty of is not describing what he meant more clearly in the interview. He can do better.
He's brusque. He's crude. He curses.
Sometimes that all gets in the way.
Celerity
(43,419 posts)If you listen to Democratic elites NPR is my go-to place for that the whole talk is about how women, and women of color, are going to decide this election. Im like: Well, 48 percent of the people that vote are males. Do you mind if they have some consideration?
Coventina
(27,121 posts)Fuck that shit!!!!
Coventina
(27,121 posts)GMAFB!!
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Celerity
(43,419 posts)demmiblue
(36,865 posts)IcyPeas
(21,893 posts)Celerity
(43,419 posts)Paladin
(28,265 posts)They deserve one another.