The BBC News just said that Haiti has an estimated half a billion firearms due to rampant....

[RussellCattle]

......smuggling to the gangs. WTF. If true that means they have more than we do, in private hands.

[malaise]

1. And nearly all come from the US

That is all

[elleng]

3. Right.

"We've' done no favors for Haiti, for MANY years.

[malaise]

5. More like centuries and add the French

😀

[elleng]

6. Yes, an utterly miserable LONG history.

[Marcus IM]

12. The RW Haitian community is embraced by RW Cuban and Ven communities.

Interestingly, neither Rs or Ds care to pander to the Haitian community.

I wonder why.

[malaise]

14. They embraced the Jamaican RWs in the late 70s and 80s

Evil fucks

[BeyondGeography]

2. That's about 42 guns per person

for those of you keeping score.

[malaise]

7. I don't think the numbers are accurate but there are a lot of guns

Way too many

[BeyondGeography]

11. The number that I see in this and other reports is half a million

And, yes, they come from the US:

As Haiti has again plunged into violent chaos, images of gang members bearing high-powered rifles, pump-action shotguns or automatic weapons in the streets of Port-au-Prince have become ubiquitous.

But this weaponry is not made in Haiti, a country with no firearms or ammunition manufacturing capabilities.
It is an arsenal that largely comes directly from the US, with most guns, experts say, likely to have originated from states with lax firearm laws, and many trafficked into Haiti from Florida.

This clandestine trade has left Haiti’s gangs with a vast cache of illegal arms and much greater firepower than the country’s dispirited and underfunded police force. A 2020 estimate published by Haiti’s disarmament commission estimated there could be as many as 500,000 small arms in the country, with just 38,000 of those legally registered. The number, analysts say, is now likely to be even higher following an uptick in trafficking operations in recent years.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/14/haiti-gang-violence-us-guns-smuggling

[malaise]

13. We're part of the illegal gun exports

It’s madness

[getagrip_already]

4. bullshit

Haiti has 11 million people.

The BBC says they 500 million firearms?

50 weapons per person?

Including children?

And where are these weapons?

Haiti is a small country. They don't have large warehouses or garrisons brimming with shipping containers. There aren't cargo ships anchored 100 deep offshore.

I call bullshit.

I'm not saying the country isn't flooded with guns and ammunition. But that number is a friggin pipe dream.

[ProfessorGAC]

8. Seems Suspicious To Me, Too

A "b" where an "m" should be?

[EX500rider]

9. Exactly sounds like nonsense

11 million means around 5 million males so two to three million adult males somehow I doubt they own 500 million firearms

[elleng]

10. *If the US wants to stop this, they could easily do it one month!" He pleads:

"We are asking the US to give us a chance to live, just give us a chance."

For a country that does not manufacture weapons, a UN report in January found every type of gun was flooding Port-au-Prince: high-powered rifles such as AK-47s, 9mm pistols, sniper rifles and machine guns.

The weapons are fuelling the staggering surge in Haiti's gang-related violence.

There is no exact number for how many trafficked firearms are currently in Haiti.

The UN report said some estimates put it at half a million legal and illegal weapons here as of 2020.

It reported that guns and ammunition were being smuggled in from land, air and sea from US states such as Florida, Texas and Georgia.

There have been seizures in the country's main ports in Port-au-Prince, Port-de-Paix and in Cap-Haitien. Illegal weapons are hidden in shipping containers among toy and clothes donations.

In July 2022, Haitian authorities seized a huge haul of dozens of weapons with 15,000 rounds of ammunition. They were stuffed in a shipment from Florida heading to an Episcopal church in Haiti.'

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68668460

[malaise]

15. That is the more important point

Rec

[RockRaven]

18. Journalists/editors should have better numeracy in a Fermi question type way.

Just to work out errors -- like this presumably is -- without needing anything other than their own brain and a few minutes of reflection.

[former9thward]

19. It is BS.

The BBC says "half a million".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68668460

[Marcus IM]

16. Lots of dead Haitians over recent decades.

Their guns didn't go to the grave with them.

How long does it take the NRA to fill a small island nation that shares a border with a RW US puppet government?

There's gold up in them thar hills.

[sarisataka]

17. Appears you double posted nt