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Celerity

(43,379 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:43 AM Mar 27

Anthony Comstock, the anti-abortion movement's new hero, explained

A 19th-century anti-sex crusader is the “pro-life” movement’s new best friend

Anthony Comstock, the 19th-century scourge of art and sex, is suddenly relevant again thanks to Donald Trump’s worst judge.


https://www.vox.com/politics/23678636/supreme-court-anthony-comstock-abortion-mifepristone-matthew-kacsmaryk



By Ian Millhiser Apr 12, 2023

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An obscure shopkeeper became one of the most powerful censors in American history

Anthony Comstock saw the devil in everything.


In his 1883 book Traps for the Young, Comstock wrote that newspapers, magazines, novels, and even fine art were snares used by Satan “to capture our youth and secure the ruin of immortal souls.” To fight the devil, Comstock claimed, Christians must eradicate the very words that encourage lust and licentiousness. There is “no more active agent employed by Satan,” Comstock wrote, than “EVIL READING.” Yet, as a young man just a few years out of a Civil War stint in the Union Army, Comstock seemed unlikely to someday turn his censorious vision into a reality. Working at a dry goods shop in postwar Manhattan, Comstock complained often to local authorities about nearby saloons and publishers of sexually explicit materials, and was frequently ignored. “Crime stalketh abroad by daylight,” he complained in his diary, “and Public officers wink at it.”

The turning point in Comstock’s life came after he wrote a letter to an official at the Young Men’s Christian Association (YMCA), complaining that he had pushed for criminal prosecutions against the smut peddlers he perceived around him but could not secure convictions. At the time, the YMCA was known less for the network of affordable suburban gyms where many modern-day children play, and more for its efforts at vice suppression. Leaders of the Y in New York City successfully lobbied for state legislation banning obscene art and literature, and they needed an investigator to sniff out violations of this law and bring the violators to justice. Anthony Comstock was the man for this job.

It was this alliance with many of New York’s wealthiest and most prudish men that powered Comstock’s career as an anti-vice crusader. Working first under the auspices of the YMCA, and then later under the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice, Comstock led a multi-state effort to find sexual materials, destroy them, and arrest anyone responsible for distributing them. As art historian Amy Werbel writes in Lust on Trial: Censorship and the Rise of American Obscenity in the Age of Anthony Comstock, in seven years of work for the YMCA, Comstock played a key role in “seizing and destroying 134,000 pounds of books, 194,000 ‘bad pictures and photographs,’ [...] and 60,300 ‘articles made of rubber for immoral purposes, and used by both sexes.’” His work also led to 106 arrests across the states of New York, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Connecticut.

Comstock’s most consequential accomplishment, however, was the federal legislation formally titled “A bill for the suppression of trade in, and circulation of, obscene literature and articles of immoral use” — the law now widely known as the Comstock Act. The law that bears Comstock’s name was not drafted by Comstock himself. But it was Anthony Comstock who successfully lobbied Congress to pass the bill by setting up an exhibition of sexualized art and other material he acquired as the YMCA’s anti-vice detective in Vice President Schuyler Colfax’s room in the United States Capitol. Two months later, the New York legislature incorporated the NYSSV, which would employ Comstock for the remainder of his life. The new organization’s official logo left little doubt about its purpose. It is bifurcated, with an image of a man being led off by a police officer on the one side, as another man burns a pile of books on the other.

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Anthony Comstock, the anti-abortion movement's new hero, explained (Original Post) Celerity Mar 27 OP
If I get this right Raven123 Mar 27 #1
repubs want to take the country back to 1873. Sounds about right except Liberal In Texas Mar 27 #2
1853 was the last full year there was no Republican Party Celerity Mar 27 #6
Has anyone here read the book "Sex and the Constitution"? TSExile Mar 27 #3
'Sex and the Constitution' Celerity Mar 27 #8
Congratulations! Deep State Witch Mar 27 #10
Congratulations? Celerity Mar 27 #11
I thought that was your book Deep State Witch Mar 27 #12
no, the author is Geoffrey R. Stone Celerity Mar 27 #14
Who defines morality? Freethinker65 Mar 27 #4
Unfortunately, we have many Comstocks today in the Republican Party. Lonestarblue Mar 27 #5
Great OP malaise Mar 27 #7
You know, I think Anthony Comstock was vile and immoral, as is the law bearing his name, BUT... Goodheart Mar 27 #9
I believe the Comstock Act is in direct violation of the 14th Amendment. bluesbassman Mar 27 #13

Raven123

(4,842 posts)
1. If I get this right
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:52 AM
Mar 27

The Comstock Act is in conflict with the First Amendment. Unless there is a severability clause (I think it is called), can SCOTUS just uphold part of it?

How would it apply to digital transmission of “objectionable” material.

What a Pandora’s box

Liberal In Texas

(13,552 posts)
2. repubs want to take the country back to 1873. Sounds about right except
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:54 AM
Mar 27

that might be too progressive for them. Maybe 1853 before slavery was outlawed.

Celerity

(43,379 posts)
6. 1853 was the last full year there was no Republican Party
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 08:13 AM
Mar 27
March 20th, 1854 – The Republican Party is formed by anti-slavery opponents of the Kansas–Nebraska Act in Ripon, Wisconsin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

The Republican Party, also known as the GOP (Grand Old Party), is one of the two major contemporary political parties in the United States. It emerged as the main political rival of the Democratic Party in the mid-1850s. The party was founded in 1854 by anti-slavery activists who opposed the Kansas–Nebraska Act, an act which allowed for the potential expansion of chattel slavery into the western territories of Kansas and Nebraska. It supported classical liberalism and economic reform while opposing the expansion of slavery into the free territories. The party initially had a very limited presence in the South, but was successful in the North. By 1858, it had enlisted most former Whigs and former Free Soilers to form majorities in nearly every northern state.

White Southerners became alarmed at the threat to slavery. With the 1860 election of Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican president, the deep Southern states seceded from the United States. Under the leadership of Lincoln and a Republican Congress, the Republican Party led the fight to defeat the Confederate States in the American Civil War, preserving the Union and abolishing slavery. Afterward, the party largely dominated the national political scene until the Great Depression in the 1930s, when it lost its congressional majorities and the Democrats' New Deal programs proved popular.

Dwight D. Eisenhower's election was a rare break in between Democratic presidents and he presided over a period of increased economic prosperity after World War II. His former vice president Richard Nixon carried 49 states in 1972 with what he touted as his silent majority. The 1980 election of Ronald Reagan realigned national politics, bringing together advocates of free-market economics, social conservatives, and Cold War foreign policy hawks under the Republican banner.[19] Since 2008, Republicans have faced increased factionalism within the party's ranks. As of 2024, Trumpists are the dominant faction within the GOP.

In the 21st century, the party receives its strongest support from rural voters, evangelical Christians, men, senior citizens, veterans, white voters, and those who did not attend college. On social issues, it advocates for restricting the legality of abortion, prohibiting recreational drug use, loosening gun restrictions, overturning the legality of same-sex marriage and opposing the transgender rights movement. On economic issues, the party supports tax cuts and deregulation while opposing labor unions and universal health care. In foreign policy, the party includes both those who promote tough stances against China, Russia, Iran and North Korea and those who promote non-interventionism and isolationism.

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TSExile

(2,446 posts)
3. Has anyone here read the book "Sex and the Constitution"?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:54 AM
Mar 27

There's plenty of stuff about Comstock in there. He was one sick puppy - and would fit right in with the Grand Old Patriarchy of today, fundagelical section.

Celerity

(43,379 posts)
8. 'Sex and the Constitution'
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 08:23 AM
Mar 27
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/20/sex-and-the-constitution/

https://archive.is/wip/56nZT

My new book, “Sex and the Constitution,” will officially be released on March 21. I have worked on this book, off-and-on, for roughly a decade. My goal was to explore the history of sex, religion, law and constitutional law from the ancient world to the 21st century. I’m pleased to report that the early reviews have been quite glowing, including from such folks as Laurence Tribe, Linda Greenhouse, Cass Sunstein, Erwin Chemerinsky, David Cole and George Chauncey. I am especially pleased that my friend Eugene Volokh has invited me to write a series of five pieces about the book for the Volokh Conspiracy. Each of these pieces will consist of edited excerpts from the book. This, the first of those pieces, is drawn primarily from the prologue and the epilogue in order to give readers an overall sense of the work. The four subsequent pieces, which will appear each day this week, will focus on representative moments in the vast sweep of history explored in “Sex and the Constitution.” I hope you will find them interesting and illuminating.

We are in the midst of a constitutional revolution. It is a revolution that tests the most fundamental values of the American people and that has shaken constitutional law to its roots. It has bitterly divided citizens, politicians and judges. It is a battle that has dominated politics, inflamed religious passions, and challenged Americans to rethink and reexamine their positions on issues they once thought settled. In the course of this struggle, American law has called into question the constitutionality of a broad range of government regulations of sexually-related behavior, including contraception, abortion, obscenity, sodomy and marriage. As a consequence, the Supreme Court has found itself confronting fundamental questions about the nature of sexual freedom, the meaning of liberty, equality and privacy, the legitimacy of government efforts to dictate sexual morality and the appropriate role of religion in public life. “Sex and the Constitution” explores the remarkable process through which Americans, and especially the justices of our Supreme Court, have navigated these profoundly divisive and important questions.



Not surprisingly, our social mores and our laws governing sexual behavior are deeply bound up with religious beliefs and traditions. A central theme of “Sex and the Constitution” is that American attitudes about sex have been shaped over the centuries by religious beliefs — more particularly, by early Christian beliefs — about sex, sin and shame. A nettlesome question in constitutional law is how courts should cope with that history in a nation committed to the separation of church and state. It is a bit of a puzzle that constitutional law has come to play such a central role in shaping our debates over these questions. Nothing in our Constitution expressly guarantees a right to sexual freedom. Supreme Court justices from almost any prior era in American history would be stunned to learn of the role the Supreme Court and our Constitution have come to play in our contemporary disputes — some call them “culture wars” — over such issues as obscenity, contraception, abortion, sodomy and same-sex marriage. The constitutional revolution we are now witnessing is the consequence of a long, complex and fascinating history. It is a history shaped over the centuries by such diverse and antagonistic voices as Saint Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Voltaire, Thomas Jefferson, Anthony Comstock, Margaret Sanger, Alfred Kinsey, Harry Blackmun, Jesse Helms, Phyllis Schlafly and Anthony Kennedy, to name just a few.

Over the grand sweep of history, social, religious and legal attitudes toward sex have shifted dramatically. These shifts have not been in any one direction. Rather, they have swung back and forth, depending on a range of influences and circumstances. Whereas the Greeks and the Romans did not attach any religious significance to sex, the early Christians came to view sex as inherently sinful. For more than a millennium, the church imposed its beliefs about sex on the faithful, but left those who did not share the faith to their own destinies. This began to change in the late Middle Ages, as first the church and then Protestant reformers turned increasingly to the secular law to require all people to confirm their behavior to the dictates of the dominant religion. As time passed, enlightenment thinkers came to reject many of the dogmas of traditional Christianity and, more broadly, the assumption that the dominant religion can legitimately conscript the power of the state to impose its own notions of sin on others. This view shaped the understandings of the framers of our Constitution and led ultimately to the principle of separation of church and state.

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Celerity

(43,379 posts)
14. no, the author is Geoffrey R. Stone
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:49 AM
Mar 27

Geoffrey R. Stone (born 1946) is an American legal scholar and noted First Amendment scholar. He is currently the Edward H. Levi Distinguished Service Professor of Law at the University of Chicago Law School.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_R._Stone

Freethinker65

(10,021 posts)
4. Who defines morality?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 08:05 AM
Mar 27

Who gets to decide if it is moral to deny a woman's right to reproductive healthcare in States that still allow access to such care?

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
5. Unfortunately, we have many Comstocks today in the Republican Party.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 08:11 AM
Mar 27

I have never seen a party or time when so many judges and legislators are constantly obsessed with sex and how to govern it for people who do not support in their prudery. The whole Moms for Liberty group fixates on sex nd banning anything that might give kids a clue about it—leaving them to learn all the negative aspects of sex from the internet. It’s ironic that they believe that their God created the human form, but it must be covered to the gills to prevent lust and sex. I guess they don’t trust personal responsibility because of their own obsession with sex.

Goodheart

(5,324 posts)
9. You know, I think Anthony Comstock was vile and immoral, as is the law bearing his name, BUT...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 08:53 AM
Mar 27

I also believe that the role of the US Supreme Court is to apply laws as written and intended, not to create their own.

If the Comstock Act has not been repealed then I'm going to have to say that the Court should rule in favor of those wanting to keep mifepristone out of the US mail, UNLESS the Court can find a valid constitutional basis for tossing the Act out altogether. In the meantime, distributors can find other transportation means to get the drug to clients, and Democrats can work publicly to eradicate this and other anti-human legislation from the books.



bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
13. I believe the Comstock Act is in direct violation of the 14th Amendment.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:43 AM
Mar 27

It should have been challenged and found unconstitutional years ago. This court, in it’s selective application of textual interpretation, will probably not see it that way, so repealing it is the obvious remedy. So much more the reason to regain the House, and keep the Senate and Presidency.

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