RWer are already blaming Mayor Pete, Biden, and UKR funding on the FSK Bridge.

[AZLD4Candidate]

Never mind bridges are not built normally to withstand collisions with huge freighters.

[FBaggins]

1. Bridges are absolutely built to withstand collisions

Doesn’t mean the current administration has anything to do with the problem. But yes… someone screwed up - as huge vessels pass through there constantly

[Mr.WeRP]

9. The ship was massive and going fast

No bridge support from the 70’s was designed to mitigate that kind of energy. This falls fully on the captain of that vessel.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. Of a certain type. Not being hit by a fully loaded modern cargo carrier.

[GreenWave]

2. Self delete

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[yagotme]

8. Watcha u head...

lowla bridge-ada...

[Lovie777]

3. Of course RWer blame...........................

that's what they like to do like clockwork.

[mitch96]

10. Yup, knee jerk reaction.. Like if a bird farts in ruzzia it's Ukraine's fault... uff so predictable it's sad...nt

[Think. Again.]

4. I hope there is hard pushback that clearly points out...

...how much resistance the rightwingers put against Biden's SUCCESSFUL infrastructure plan and Buttigieg's work in general.

[Attilatheblond]

22. I half expect some RWers to insist Biden was on the ship's bridge and Pete was at the helm.

Fox's chyron will allude to those being the circumstances.

Trump will boast than none of his bridges have fallen down.

Empty G will claim it was antifa.

Comer will investigate the bridge for jumping in front of the freighter.

/s but only a little

Good morning, DU. Coffee up and take your vitamins, it's gonna be a day.

[Celerity]

45. proof

RWers to insist Biden was on the ship's bridge and Pete was at the helm

fuck the RW

[Emile]

5. Sitting on their hemorrhoidal asses and pointing

their fingers is what Republicans call governing.

[sanatanadharma]

6. The container vessels today are much larger than those when the bridge was designed

It is as though the difference between designing for 2000 lb Toyota Corolla collisions versus new vehicles like 7000 lb Tesla trucks.

Was it not with Reagan that the USA ceased investing in infrastructure, especially maintenance?

[AllaN01Bear]

21. i tell em that , all i get is sputter sputt sputt and you lie .!

[sanatanadharma]

38. The container vessels today hold eight times more containers than in 1977

In 1977 the largest container ship had a capacity of under 3000 TEU* (twenty foot long container. A 40 ft is 2 units. Container weight can vary).
In 2023 the largest ships are ranging at 24,000 TEU. The Dali, built in 2015 is a 10,000 TEU ship.
* TEU means 20 ft equivalent unit

[AllaN01Bear]

39. i figured that the ships has grown expionatialy in size over the years in relationship to cargo.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

7. This will show all the more reason for Biden's Infrastructure investment.

In doing so, Joe mentioned that there were hundreds, if not thousands of Bridges, that were in need of repair or replacement in this country. He pointed out past Republican Administrations that refused to address the situation.

It was not long ago when a stretch of I-35 collapsed over the Mississippi River during the George W. Bush years. The Lafayette Bridge that spanned a stretch of Hwy 52 into St, Paul was rebuilt years later for the same defects that collapsed the I-35 section. Same designer.

Bridges that span over bodies of water be they huge oceans, rivers, or lakes, such as the Mackinac and Tappan Zee Bridges, tend to wear out faster as moisture rusts out important parts. Which is why the tolls collected when one travels across the Golden Gate, repairs and upkeep are constant to keep that iconic Bridge from collapsing.

So RWers can complain all they want. If they are not willing to pay the band, they should not dance.

[AllaN01Bear]

23. If they are not willing to pay the band, they should not dance.

me likes . can i steal and use? please

[ProudMNDemocrat]

24. Yes of course...

[multigraincracker]

11. Then we get to blame trump for

1 million deaths from Covid.
Just saying.

[videohead5]

13. It looks like the huge freighter

Lost power a few seconds before it crashed into the bridge.

[Farmer-Rick]

14. Yeah, and there was black smoke

Coming out when the ship got power back. Looks like a very poorly maintained ship caused this mess.

[Vogon_Glory]

16. That seems to be a credible conclusion

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I just watched a credible You Tube presentation based on video taken at the time of the collision and it did show the ship losing power, dropping an anchor, then swerving out of it channel and into one of the bridge pylons because of the massive inertia that vessel still possessed.

For the benefit of lurking wingnuts reading this, the ship was registered in Singapore, built in 2015, and had a foreign crew.

[AllaN01Bear]

25. i saw what you did there .

[Vogon_Glory]

31. Well, right-wingers who thought (and may still think) that Honolulu is in a foreign country

are obviously geography-challenged.

[AllaN01Bear]

26. i saw what you did there .

[Attilatheblond]

32. I need more coffee so I can function

[Attilatheblond]

33. Is the date for that ship's year of build right? I seriously doubt they built 'em that big in 1915

Is the date for that ship's year of build right? I seriously doubt they built 'em that big in 1915
Reply to Vogon_Glory (Reply #16)
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 07:34 AM

Possible you meant 2015? Asking for some old Coastie swabs I know.

[Vogon_Glory]

34. Corrected. My bad.

You’re right, they didn’t build them that big back then. And also I think most ships built in 1915 have long since been scrapped.

I have since corrected my boo-boo.

[Attilatheblond]

36. Knew you'd be right on that

and hope you took it in the kind way I meant it. I STILL have trouble with that 20 something date myself.

[KS Toronado]

15. Which RWers are already blaming Democrats?

[Emile]

17. Probably the ones who are against regulations

that might have prevented a ship from striking a bridge. Just guessing. . .

[KS Toronado]

37. Title of OP suggested it had name(s), I see none.

[Emile]

44. Nancy Mace

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18810807

[Vogon_Glory]

35. Alex Jones for one

Surprised, NOT.

[KS Toronado]

42. Thanks, have a link to what he said?

[trusty elf]

18. I find it surprising that the whole thing failed.

I'd say that was a flawed design.

[AllaN01Bear]

19. snork.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Scott_Key_Bridge_(Baltimore)

[IronLionZion]

20. Is their solution tax cuts? Border wall?

because that's their solution to everything including inflation.

Freepers are being racist about DEI efforts without any evidence whatsoever. I don't know what their point is. Shipping has always been diverse and global in nature.

[CaptainTruth]

27. I thought Trump's "Infrastructure Week" upgraded all the bridges?

Heck, they had Infrastructure Week a dozen times or so.

[Renew Deal]

28. Whatever

[sinkingfeeling]

29. It was built in 1972-1977. Nixon/Ford.

[riversedge]

30. yes, here are two MAGA Trumpy fan idiots demanding Pete resign.....

Link to tweet

?s=20

Link to tweet

?s=20

[riversedge]

40. "The first hints on Fox News of "Blame Biden for the bridge collapse in Baltimore," started at approx 6:59 a.m.....

The first hints on Fox News of "Blame Biden for the bridge collapse in Baltimore," started at approx 6:59 a.m. - an hour into the broadcast of "Fox & Friends." I suspect this theme will get louder as the day progresses.

Link to tweet

?s=20

Link to tweet

?s=20

[beaglelover]

41. I'm sure they will blame DEI soon enough!

[haele]

43. Apparently som RW wags are already blaming DEI

Suggesting the pilot was a variation of something other than a straight, white, experienced, Christian male (from birth) due to DEI policies.
Not knowing what it takes to be a certified harbor pilot, of course.
If a ship that size lost power right at that point in the harbor, it doesn't matter what the pilot was, or even if there's a couple tugs alongside. That ship is going to keep going whichever way velocity, inertia, and current will take it. All you can do is perhaps slow it down some.

Haele

[Vogon_Glory]

46. The first Republican pol trying to blame the

collision on DEI was some inland bozo from Utah. I wonder if his daddy had the good sense not to trust him with a rudder.