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When you've lost Chuck Todd... (Original Post) 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 24 OP
Chuck projecting AND openly admitting that it's a grift. Marcus IM Mar 24 #1
"Broken clock" phenomenon, but good on him for calling out the obvious. hlthe2b Mar 24 #2
Todd was always about access. cachukis Mar 24 #3
And as for "access to audience" which he mentioned BaronChocula Mar 24 #22
On point. cachukis Mar 24 #24
Then what the f#%@ good is the access? CanonRay Mar 24 #27
You're selling the name in the promos. People cachukis Mar 24 #29
Then Mace doesn't come back NanaCat Mar 24 #33
Yes. Hence my contention that our media needs cachukis Mar 24 #36
It hasn't always been about access. NanaCat Mar 24 #32
They're cowards then. Oneironaut Mar 24 #34
K&R spanone Mar 24 #4
Kick dalton99a Mar 24 #5
Kick dalton99a Mar 24 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Mar 24 #7
Todd brings up a good point: If she speaks for whoever is signing the check - exactly how mercenary is she? ... marble falls Mar 24 #8
the media is NOT our friends Takket Mar 24 #9
Wow, Chuck, I am impressed. Now I hope someone posts the Ronna interview Hekate Mar 24 #10
Meet The Press / Ronna McDaniel Interview speak easy Mar 24 #28
Whoa! SergeStorms Mar 24 #11
Was his voice shaking a little bit or is that how he always sounds? oregonjen Mar 24 #13
It did sound a little shaky PatSeg Mar 24 #17
It's all about access InstantGratification Mar 24 #19
Yes, that makes sense PatSeg Mar 24 #20
Good post and a belated welcome to DU. yonder Mar 24 #21
Post Recommended ProfessorGAC Mar 24 #31
No, what he wanted was the equivalent of a drinking NanaCat Mar 24 #35
I noticed that too nuxvomica Mar 24 #18
He was never as bad as many stated ITAL Mar 24 #38
Maybe it's for the Drama. Nt BootinUp Mar 24 #12
What is Chuck's role at NBC now...? themaguffin Mar 24 #14
Chief Political Analyst tinrobot Mar 24 #15
One would think NBC's "Chief Policial Analyst" would have more say as to who they hire for commentary. sop Mar 24 #23
He is Batman. twodogsbarking Mar 24 #16
Chuck Todd can do a successful impersonation of a journalist! Who knew? n/t TygrBright Mar 24 #25
While I agree with everything he said...it appears to be a strategic move. ohtransplant Mar 24 #26
Ronna Romney McDaniel was ousted from the RNC by Trump. sop Mar 24 #30
Yep Patton French Mar 24 #37
It is sad when I am in agreement with Chuck Todd LetMyPeopleVote Mar 25 #39
Preemptive performance 🎭 ... and "journalists at NBC" is joke. live love laugh Mar 25 #40

hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
2. "Broken clock" phenomenon, but good on him for calling out the obvious.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:26 PM
Mar 24

The NBC executive who decided to hire McDaniel ought to be gone Monday if not sooner IMO.

cachukis

(2,244 posts)
3. Todd was always about access.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:41 PM
Mar 24

He explained once that he would not ask the consequential questions because he needed access. The MSM has always been about access.
What would our lives be if we had had serious journalism on our airwaves as the criteria for viewership as compared to access?
Think of the journalists who have been bounced or sold out.
We live what we accept.

BaronChocula

(1,559 posts)
22. And as for "access to audience" which he mentioned
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 02:48 PM
Mar 24

that shit doesn't pay off. Hardcore tea-magas don't turn on NBC to watch goopers. Especially those who have been turned out. What a gross mistake to hire RRM.

cachukis

(2,244 posts)
29. You're selling the name in the promos. People
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 03:36 PM
Mar 24

watch in the hope of insight.
Mind you, not many people in America watch or follow the news.
Advertisers seek audiences. They like interviews that puppet their corporate goals.
The media is generally run by large, conservative corporations who sell their business in a multitude of ways.
Nancy Mace is not coming back to visit George Stephanopoulos.

NanaCat

(1,135 posts)
33. Then Mace doesn't come back
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 04:40 PM
Mar 24

But it's a stupid move because she needs the media's platform to promote herself more than the media needs her.

cachukis

(2,244 posts)
36. Yes. Hence my contention that our media needs
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 05:01 PM
Mar 24

to hold our leaders feet to the fire rather than use them for eyes on the page.
Our legislators would have been better vetted for abilities to run on the truth rather than on monied interests.
The media is more of a palliative for its meager audience than bringing a civics lesson to the uninformed.
Reality is the 20% rule.
20% of Democrats are up on the issues and 20% of Republicans claim to be as well.
60% of Americans are too busy or less inclined to be curious.
People are generally good and that's why dems generally get more votes.
When you have good ideas to sell, you sell them. When you don't, but you still want power, you use unscrupulous methods.
Cash flow matters.

NanaCat

(1,135 posts)
32. It hasn't always been about access.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 04:39 PM
Mar 24

Plenty of reporters of old simply reported what was going on, and the early investigative reporters really were that. The access excuse started after Bernstein and Woodward.

Thing is, the media doesn't need access to get a story nearly as much as politicians and etc need access to the media to tell their stories. That's the thing modern journalists are too lazy and incompetent to comprehend.

Oneironaut

(5,500 posts)
34. They're cowards then.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 04:46 PM
Mar 24

If you have to kiss ass and play along with gas lighting, you aren’t a journalist. You’re a paid propaganda spokesperson.

Our press isn’t free. It has news filtered through corporate interests. If you don’t play ball, you’re out, and the next idiot is put in your place.

Response to 50 Shades Of Blue (Original post)

marble falls

(57,099 posts)
8. Todd brings up a good point: If she speaks for whoever is signing the check - exactly how mercenary is she? ...
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 01:03 PM
Mar 24

... what if Fox pays her on the side?

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
11. Whoa!
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 01:24 PM
Mar 24

Who was that man on TV, and what has NBC done with the real Chuck Todd?

I guess Chuck was pissed-off that NBC found a bigger, lying, right-wing shill than himself. He's certainly protecting his former territory.

PatSeg

(47,486 posts)
17. It did sound a little shaky
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 02:11 PM
Mar 24

Perhaps because he is speaking out against his employers.

I never thought I'd see the day when I totally agreed with Chuck Todd. That was very impressive.

19. It's all about access
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 02:36 PM
Mar 24

I've seen flashes of this from him in the past. The reason he didn't do this on meet the press is simple: access. If he took anything other than a softball approach with the Rs, they would cut him off. No interviews = no job in short order. When conservatives didn't have Fox to run to for friendly air time, the politicians HAD to come to MSM outlets for their airtime. The journalists had more latitude to ask the tough questions. If they ask the questions we need them to ask, the politicians run to Fox and cry about the bias of the MSM. Just one more way Fox has screwed up the information stream in the US. Rupert Murdock is nearing his end, I struggle with wishing bad things on another, but he has certainly earned a place in the hottest ring of hell.

I'm not excusing Chuck Todd's past performance, but it's easy to understand why. I just wish he had the courage to show this side of himself more often and be bolder in his interviews. That was a refreshing break from his usual performance and I hope we see much more of it.

NanaCat

(1,135 posts)
35. No, what he wanted was the equivalent of a drinking
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 04:46 PM
Mar 24

Buddy on the air. Access for a competent journalist isn't about sucking up to people to get a story. A competent journalist knows that people need the media to tell their stories as much or more than the medias needs that person to tell it. Plenty of people will know what the average government hack knows; you don't have to coddle them to get the story. Just find the person who wants to be heard the most. That means, you know, doing your research in advance about an issue and the players involved.

ITAL

(637 posts)
38. He was never as bad as many stated
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 07:09 PM
Mar 24

I know people crapped on him all the time, but Meet the Press by its very nature always will give voice to both sides of the political spectrum with questionable guests. He was always more of a numbers guy - that's how he got his start on NBC. Back in the day he was Steve Kornacki before Steve Kornacki.

sop

(10,191 posts)
23. One would think NBC's "Chief Policial Analyst" would have more say as to who they hire for commentary.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 02:52 PM
Mar 24

Todd seemed shocked his own network was paying the former head of the RNC.

ohtransplant

(1,488 posts)
26. While I agree with everything he said...it appears to be a strategic move.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 03:06 PM
Mar 24

My guesses are his statement was 1) an attempt to assuage MSNBC staff and viewers who have a problem with the hiring (as do I!), and 2) vetted in advance with NBC/MSNBC brass.

Please forgive my cynicism...it is well earned.

sop

(10,191 posts)
30. Ronna Romney McDaniel was ousted from the RNC by Trump.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 04:16 PM
Mar 24

She's Mitt Romney's niece, and everyone knows Mitt and Trump are enemies. And Trump had a bunch of Ronna's people fired when Lara Trump took over as co-chair. NBC probably hired Ronna with the understanding she would go after Trump.

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