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Tom of Temecula

(1,288 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 04:21 PM Mar 18

'N.Y. state padlock on Trump Tower': Expert says Trump is at 'next-to-last step' from ruin

Attorneys for Donald Trump declared Monday that he is unable to secure the $464 million bond due in his New York fraud case, saying that turning over the entire amount is "a practical impossibility" — and that development could lead to his New York empire becoming property of the state, a legal expert said.

New York Attorney General Letitia James could put a "padlock" on Trump Tower, legal analyst Glenn Kirschner told MSNBC, effectively locking the former president out of his iconic Fifth Avenue building and making it the property of New York.

Kirschner was responding to a question about how the state's Attorney General Letitia James will make sure the damages owed after Trump was found liable for fraud will be paid if he can't find the money. "It would look like Tish James, figuratively speaking, putting a big New York state padlock on Trump Tower, for example," he said.

Trump's attorneys claimed they have spent “countless hours negotiating with one of the largest insurance companies in the world,” and have also unsuccessfully asked 30 other companies to back the bond. “The amount of the judgment, with interest, exceeds $464 million, and very few bonding companies will consider a bond of anything approaching that magnitude,” Trump’s lawyers wrote.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-tower-letitia-james/

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'N.Y. state padlock on Trump Tower': Expert says Trump is at 'next-to-last step' from ruin (Original Post) Tom of Temecula Mar 18 OP
Love that cartoon. yorkster Mar 18 #1
Wasn't Chubb securing his bond? onetexan Mar 18 #2
That was for the OTHER case leftieNanner Mar 18 #3
Plus that was only for this appeal angrychair Mar 18 #14
It's hard keeping up with his many lawsuits. Yavin4 Mar 19 #41
That was for rhe $91m E Jean Carroll judgement n/t ms liberty Mar 18 #5
That was just for E. Jean Carroll Diraven Mar 18 #7
I hope every second is recorded in 4K financial bloodbath color rurallib Mar 18 #4
A financial bloodbath -- YES IT IS!!! Blue Owl Mar 18 #27
Letitia James should stop talking and just do whatever she has to do. 617Blue Mar 18 #6
That's more than a bit unknowing of legal procedures. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 18 #12
She can't do anything until the March 25th deadline tinrobot Mar 18 #15
I love this so fucking much. onecaliberal Mar 18 #8
Ditto malaise Mar 18 #22
So he's too big to not allow to fail. Good. marble falls Mar 18 #9
The lettering on the building should be Cyrillic........ n/t lastlib Mar 18 #10
Or Arabic Warpy Mar 18 #33
to hear him tell it, barbtries Mar 18 #11
"....lying sack of shit. always has been always will be." Perfect explanation & discription of Donald Trump Stuart G Mar 18 #31
TY.. I though Clubb Insurance in Switzerland was going to cover it? Cha Mar 18 #13
Chubb is covering the E. Jean Carroll 91 million bond. niyad Mar 18 #16
Ah.. TY! Cha Mar 18 #17
The day I've been waiting for is about to arrive! PortTack Mar 18 #18
I'm gonna cry. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 18 #19
For a "billionaire" this bright orange buffoon sure looks like a broke-ass beggar. Comfortably_Numb Mar 18 #20
There's no cash available - much of it is hidden in offshore accounts FakeNoose Mar 18 #25
Pull himself up by the boot straps... Bluethroughu Mar 18 #26
Maybe he should throw some "seed faith money" to some of those religious hucksters that love him so much. Comfortably_Numb Mar 18 #29
He'd have to bend over to do that. dchill Mar 18 #34
You are so right... Bluethroughu Mar 18 #37
A shitstorm like the world has never seen! dchill Mar 18 #38
He showers us with his presence everyday?! Bluethroughu Mar 19 #39
He should get the money from his family. They made billions while he was POTUS. n/t spike jones Mar 18 #21
Someone tell him that there are Arabic Numerals on the front part 4lbs Mar 18 #23
Not to worry, DENVERPOPS Mar 18 #24
More violent rhetoric coming forth.......................... Lovie777 Mar 18 #28
Thank God that Ivana is safe Tetrachloride Mar 18 #30
Trump is like a lot of professional melm00se Mar 18 #32
Anyone who ever partnered with Chump - including his own family ... FakeNoose Mar 18 #36
It will be the best padlock ever! BootinUp Mar 18 #35
Turn it into a migrant shelter. live love laugh Mar 19 #40

angrychair

(8,759 posts)
14. Plus that was only for this appeal
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 05:24 PM
Mar 18

If he loses and tries to appeal it further he would have secure a new bond and Chubb already said they would not be interested in securing a bond for any further appeals of that case.

Diraven

(554 posts)
7. That was just for E. Jean Carroll
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 04:31 PM
Mar 18

Defamation civil trial he lost. The $464 million is from the Trump Organization business fraud trial he also lost.

barbtries

(28,824 posts)
11. to hear him tell it,
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 04:51 PM
Mar 18

he's got that just hanging out in petty cash. "I'm rich. Really rich."

lying sack of shit. always has been always will be. the thing about tsf is that his lies always get found out. the terrible thing about his cult is that none of that matters to them.

Stuart G

(38,458 posts)
31. "....lying sack of shit. always has been always will be." Perfect explanation & discription of Donald Trump
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 06:30 PM
Mar 18

PortTack

(32,825 posts)
18. The day I've been waiting for is about to arrive!
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 05:36 PM
Mar 18

He’s going to lose his shit! And, JMO ….his fallibility laid bare is going to turn cult members against him.

FakeNoose

(32,917 posts)
25. There's no cash available - much of it is hidden in offshore accounts
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 06:04 PM
Mar 18

Neither NYS or the federal gov't can reach out and take his money from offshore accounts. Hell they probably can't even find those, but it doesn't matter.

Chump "owns" properties and brands, but they're all mortgaged to the hilt. I'm not even sure if another bankruptcy would help him at this point. So much of his debt cannot be cancelled by bankruptcy now. That's why Letitia James is planning on taking over a few (or several) of his properties because he can't pay the fines. The NY banks aren't allowed to do business with him, even if they wanted to.

Comfortably_Numb

(3,854 posts)
29. Maybe he should throw some "seed faith money" to some of those religious hucksters that love him so much.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 06:17 PM
Mar 18

God will bless him a thousand fold, even though he needs a $465 million fold.

Bluethroughu

(5,208 posts)
39. He showers us with his presence everyday?!
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:03 AM
Mar 19

I've seen enough, time for the lock up. Maybe, he'll shut up, after his toupee aka rats nest is removed and orange spray tan is unavailable.

4lbs

(6,868 posts)
23. Someone tell him that there are Arabic Numerals on the front part
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 05:52 PM
Mar 18

of "his" NYC Tower.





Watch his head explode.



Tik Tok.... Tik Tok...

Is that clock from "Jyna"... err... China ?

DENVERPOPS

(8,900 posts)
24. Not to worry,
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 06:03 PM
Mar 18

Some Uber Rich Republican will come in and post the cash, or maybe some foreign gov't's dictator......

Lovie777

(12,425 posts)
28. More violent rhetoric coming forth..........................
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 06:15 PM
Mar 18

and corporate media both oral and written will give him another pass,

melm00se

(4,998 posts)
32. Trump is like a lot of professional
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 06:35 PM
Mar 18

financial scumbags and has his assets hidden and encumbered to prevent quick asset seizures.

The state may put the arm on Trump Tower but there are some omissions:

1. how much of Trump Tower (and all of his other assets) is encumbered by mortgages, liens and other properly recorded security interests?
2. how much of Trump Tower's (and all of his other assets) ownership is NOT Trump or his entities?
3. how much equity is available?

Personally, instead of political grandstanding, I would just quietly serve every single tenant in the building that the State of New York is exercising its legally obtained judgment and direct them to cease sending their lease/rental payments to any Trump entity and send all such payments to the trustee who is now empowered to collect on the judgement. No legitimate business would ignore that kind of service (as it is perfectly legal because accounts receivable are considered executable assets) and they would in very short order start sending their checks to the State.

This is a hell of a lot easier than foreclosing on the property, fight your way thru all the superior liens and mortgages on the property and auction off the property for distress sale prices.

Hit him in the cashflow (and it doesn't look like you are playing politics).

Of course, there will be a flurry of lawsuits from any non-Trump entities who have a cut of the building and its accounts receivables to make sure that the State is not seizing their property beyond the scope of its judgement.

FakeNoose

(32,917 posts)
36. Anyone who ever partnered with Chump - including his own family ...
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 09:48 PM
Mar 18

... is sincerely regretting it now. Two brothers and one sister are already dead, so I think he's down to one sister left. Everything Chump touches, dies.

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