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You cannot have a candidate threatening a bloodbath if he loses (Original Post) malaise Mar 16 OP
Our justice system is simply not wired to handle this loose cannon. LuckyCharms Mar 16 #1
Or a traitor major MAGA party. kairos12 Mar 16 #21
Our justice system chooses not to. onecaliberal Mar 16 #23
Justice can be bought, ask Clarence. cayugafalls Mar 16 #29
I'd say it's deliberately wired that way through the installation of... ananda Mar 16 #43
I only hope bdamomma Mar 16 #49
Then the US justice system sucks! raccoon Mar 17 #71
It is, but people are just afraid to use it. hadEnuf Mar 17 #81
Trump is not an ordinary criminal. Turbineguy Mar 16 #2
I would hold that he IS an ordinary criminal, rendered B.See Mar 16 #33
And a complacent media.... SergeStorms Mar 17 #97
dems need to saturate the atmosphere with this remark. nt msongs Mar 16 #3
It's obvious the media won't senseandsensibility Mar 16 #4
TFG sure does violence, and encourages it. sakabatou Mar 16 #5
Trump is very sadistic and loves hurting others. Irish_Dem Mar 16 #7
THIS malaise Mar 16 #9
He will burn it all down to get what he wants. Irish_Dem Mar 16 #10
So did Hitler. hadEnuf Mar 17 #82
Many dictators are sadists. Irish_Dem Mar 17 #93
For the rich and powerful, the laws are only gentleman's agreement. Irish_Dem Mar 16 #6
He needs a one way trip to Guantanamo Bay Naval Emile Mar 16 #8
No need to go to such lengths. ShazzieB Mar 17 #101
Should be grounds for automatic dismissal. He's got 7 more months lindysalsagal Mar 16 #11
Apparently the words peace and tranquility have no effin meaning malaise Mar 16 #12
Will he claim a physical confrontation bloodbath -or- an economic bloodbath with Chinese cars coming over? TheBlackAdder Mar 16 #60
It's a threat and an incitation. MadameButterfly Mar 17 #95
Except that he began by saluting the insurrectionists with the national malaise Mar 18 #104
i'm not that worried et tu Mar 16 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 17 #65
welcome to du! et tu Mar 17 #69
At this point, cholesterol may be our only hope of getting rid of TSF. OMGWTF Mar 17 #77
As long has he hasn't already installed a wacko VP MadameButterfly Mar 17 #96
What, Russia will attack us? orangecrush Mar 16 #14
Djt is a dangerous threat to the U. S. whether he wins or loses the 2024 election... Jrose Mar 16 #15
Good response from Trygve Olson jmbar2 Mar 16 #16
I agree malaise Mar 16 #19
He needs to hear a collective STFU malaise Mar 16 #20
I remember bdamomma Mar 16 #53
She is correct malaise Mar 16 #54
I like the guy behind him to his left who's yawning. llmart Mar 16 #44
This is how fascist dictators take control of a democracy William Seger Mar 16 #17
Meanwhile in reality he's an effin coward and malaise Mar 16 #27
He doesn't need to be brave NanaCat Mar 17 #64
The SCrOTUS had the opportunity to do the right thing... Hugin Mar 16 #18
And don't forget Moscow Mitch. rubbersole Mar 16 #22
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 16 #24
Beautifully played malaise Mar 16 #26
Last month our blood was being poisoned, now blood will be running bucolic_frolic Mar 16 #25
Stark raving mad but seriously hungry for power malaise Mar 16 #31
Turkeys struggle4progress Mar 16 #28
I remember that here on DU malaise Mar 16 #32
Love how they show the turkey slaughterer smiling at the camera lol SouthernDem4ever Mar 16 #34
Totally agree. Fucking seditionist, anarchist, terrorist. I got no more ists to give. LOCK HIM UP Evolve Dammit Mar 16 #30
we do - and the cowards support him samsingh Mar 16 #35
In a sane world, however; pfitz59 Mar 16 #36
He is a sick, perverted excuse for a human being. TheCowsCameHome Mar 16 #37
Tune in to Deadline White House every Wednesday gab13by13 Mar 16 #38
Apparently we can. and do barbtries Mar 16 #39
Hehe you beat me to it 0rganism Mar 16 #42
Except apparently we can and do 0rganism Mar 16 #40
Fire in a crowded theater. Or what? dchill Mar 16 #41
That would mean you think his statement is false, right? onenote Mar 17 #83
Yes. But his flock don't know that. dchill Mar 17 #102
Tell it to Garland. Xoan Mar 16 #45
He violated his bond in Fulton County Georgia. LOCK HIS ASS UP!! ecstatic Mar 16 #46
There is the likelihood that when Trump YoshidaYui Mar 16 #47
Trump is a knowing terrorist. He knows how to threaten because he is also a serial abuser. Ford_Prefect Mar 16 #48
Call the men in the white suits and lock this fucking lunatic up for fucking fuck's sake Blue Owl Mar 16 #50
Quite right, and the electorate MUST be so INFORMED! elleng Mar 16 #51
Yes, this is how the US Civil War started. raging moderate Mar 16 #52
He is actually bdamomma Mar 17 #68
Khrouchtchev and now Putin's wet dream. Justice matters. Mar 17 #86
Win or lose, Trump wants to have his purge, his bloodbath, his retribution Efilroft Sul Mar 17 #94
It's all so....🤯🤯🤯🤯 LakeArenal Mar 16 #55
And who is going to stop it, the DOJ, nope, to political, the courts, nope to crooked. WHO ? republianmushroom Mar 16 #56
We can over whelm them at the ballot box. Biden will be ready to have guards on FloridaBlues Mar 16 #57
Don't worry Garland will take care of it doc03 Mar 16 #58
. dalton99a Mar 16 #59
special rules for Trump apparently BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 16 #61
Biden-Harris campaign statement on Trump tonight promising a "bloodbath" if he loses LetMyPeopleVote Mar 17 #62
Good malaise Mar 17 #66
Will he don his cute red cap and golden tennis shoes when he leads the charge? Ping Tung Mar 17 #63
He'll be no where in sight malaise Mar 17 #67
And that's exatly how he works. hadEnuf Mar 17 #85
Love this post malaise Mar 17 #87
It looks like he was talking about the economy. Renew Deal Mar 17 #70
It's always double speak with Smelvis malaise Mar 17 #76
Bullshit. He was talking about people dying at the request and hands of MAGA fuckstains. SoFlaBro Mar 17 #98
What are you basing this on? Renew Deal Mar 17 #99
His words. I won't carry water for this fucking shitstain. Other might, but fuck that hog shit. SoFlaBro Mar 17 #100
Facebook errupted samplegirl Mar 17 #72
Good malaise Mar 17 #75
He is so presidential Ohioboy Mar 17 #73
Here's Mary Trump malaise Mar 18 #103
She is right Ohioboy Mar 18 #105
They are still a beatable minority - that's the good news malaise Mar 18 #106
But will they respect the will of We The People when they lose? Ohioboy Mar 18 #107
They will tryout malaise Mar 18 #108
I am so fucking sick of this shit. (nt) Paladin Mar 17 #74
Tag him as the "sore loser" in every speech randr Mar 17 #78
A big word in law is precedent. It's has already been set. They have done nothing to him and WILL do nothing. Runningdawg Mar 17 #79
Seriously. Lulu KC Mar 17 #80
It's actually worse than calling Hamas "freedom fighters just like Mandela." BannonsLiver Mar 17 #84
Mandela got more prison time from his apartheid bosses malaise Mar 17 #88
Zero to do with comparing him to Hamas BannonsLiver Mar 17 #89
Whatever n/t malaise Mar 17 #91
Imagine the reaction UnderThisLaw Mar 17 #90
THIS malaise Mar 17 #92

LuckyCharms

(17,469 posts)
1. Our justice system is simply not wired to handle this loose cannon.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:13 PM
Mar 16

If it was, he'd be locked up already, and we wouldn't be hearing "let the voters decide".

He's spectacularly dangerous, and that would be evident to a three year old.

Our justice system cannot handle this.

Our justice system concentrates on "words" and "intent", but ignores obvious catastrophic dangers.

onecaliberal

(32,948 posts)
23. Our justice system chooses not to.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:07 PM
Mar 16

It kills men standing on the corner selling singles when it wants as well,

ananda

(28,889 posts)
43. I'd say it's deliberately wired that way through the installation of...
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:24 PM
Mar 16

Federalist and Trump judges.

And huge money is behind it.

bdamomma

(63,941 posts)
49. I only hope
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:57 PM
Mar 16

there are some officials behind closed doors discussing all this. And we as Americans will not be threatened like this by a lunatic sociopath.

hadEnuf

(2,222 posts)
81. It is, but people are just afraid to use it.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:21 PM
Mar 17

They don't want violence or another "civil war" but that will directly lead to violence and another "civil war".

Problem is we will have no more power by then.

B.See

(1,333 posts)
33. I would hold that he IS an ordinary criminal, rendered
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:41 PM
Mar 16

extraordinary by factors of PRIVILEGE afforded scum like him.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
97. And a complacent media....
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:40 PM
Mar 17

that doesn't raise holy-hell when he opens his gaping maw and screams for blood and disorder.

Howard Dean shares a moment of excitement with his supporters and the media takes it completely out of context to paint him as a madman.

Donald Trump openly calls for the violent overthrow of our goverment and 😴.

Irish_Dem

(47,570 posts)
7. Trump is very sadistic and loves hurting others.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:22 PM
Mar 16

Loves humiliating and injuring others.
Loves the violence. Especially when people do it in his name for him.

He gets off on it.

Irish_Dem

(47,570 posts)
10. He will burn it all down to get what he wants.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:32 PM
Mar 16

And thoroughly enjoy the entire process of destruction.

Yes he is a sick puppy. And terrorist.

Irish_Dem

(47,570 posts)
93. Many dictators are sadists.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 03:07 PM
Mar 17

They must be in control and love to inflict pain on others.
It turns them on.

Irish_Dem

(47,570 posts)
6. For the rich and powerful, the laws are only gentleman's agreement.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:21 PM
Mar 16

Just suggestions and the honor system.

When a person has no honor, there is no system.

Emile

(23,060 posts)
8. He needs a one way trip to Guantanamo Bay Naval
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:27 PM
Mar 16

Base and locked up for being a terrorist until his trial.

ShazzieB

(16,579 posts)
101. No need to go to such lengths.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 05:27 PM
Mar 17

There are plenty of cells to lock him up in right here in the USA. All that's lacking is the will to do it.

TheBlackAdder

(28,237 posts)
60. Will he claim a physical confrontation bloodbath -or- an economic bloodbath with Chinese cars coming over?
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 11:20 PM
Mar 16

The way he said it gave the impression that it would be a physical one, but reading into it further, it might have been in context of an economic one (at least he'll claim that one). Not sure with this guy, since everything he says is effed up anyways.


MadameButterfly

(1,073 posts)
95. It's a threat and an incitation.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:31 PM
Mar 17

To all of us: Elect me or i'll incite a bloodbath.
To his supporters: If I'm not elected, attack
It's not an idle prediction. There is cause and effect here. Intentionally.

Why is this legal? Oh yeah, even if it were it would take 4 years to prosecute.

malaise

(269,237 posts)
104. Except that he began by saluting the insurrectionists with the national
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:10 AM
Mar 18

anthem. He will also free his insurrectionists on day one.

et tu

(932 posts)
13. i'm not that worried
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:39 PM
Mar 16

i think joe is ready for any crapola and this time
people are ready to do what we must to save our democracy~

Response to et tu (Reply #13)

et tu

(932 posts)
69. welcome to du!
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 08:26 AM
Mar 17

we know better now after j6 and i believe defendant 45
is not up to the rigors of this election- hope he eats as lot more artery
clogging greasy 'hamberders'.

MadameButterfly

(1,073 posts)
96. As long has he hasn't already installed a wacko VP
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 04:34 PM
Mar 17

and I'd be sad not to see him facing a conviction and being escorted to jail.

But I guess we have to take any way out that we can

orangecrush

(19,655 posts)
14. What, Russia will attack us?
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:45 PM
Mar 16

His flying monkeys are still learning the hard way that he doesn't care if they rot in jail.

Please shut up, you orange dip shit.

Jrose

(855 posts)
15. Djt is a dangerous threat to the U. S. whether he wins or loses the 2024 election...
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:47 PM
Mar 16

Never in our history has a presidential candidate promised a bloodbath in this country if he won't be elected.
The only way for this country to be assured of peaceful, democratic and legitimate elections from 2024 on, is to BAN THIS PUTIN-FRIENDLY TERRORIST from any ballots, isolate him from society in a prison or sanitarium and remove his accomplices from our House and Senate.

jmbar2

(4,912 posts)
16. Good response from Trygve Olson
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:48 PM
Mar 16

This echoes what Ruth Ben Ghiat and Timothy Snyder say about dealing with autocrats. The politics of inevitability only work if you accept it.

Needs pushback, ridicule, debunking.


llmart

(15,563 posts)
44. I like the guy behind him to his left who's yawning.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:31 PM
Mar 16

Must be bored. Wonder how much each one got paid to be there?

William Seger

(10,788 posts)
17. This is how fascist dictators take control of a democracy
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:49 PM
Mar 16

... by convincing voters that the alternative would be worse.

NanaCat

(1,384 posts)
64. He doesn't need to be brave
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:50 AM
Mar 17

He only has to get the power to tell people to commit the bloodbath for him.

The only thing we have any control over is voting against him so he doesn't get that power.

H2O Man

(73,655 posts)
24. Recommended.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:21 PM
Mar 16

He makes the younger version of George Wallace sound like Gandhi.

The Democratic Party needs to take the same approach with the maga cult as a psychiatric worker does in evaluating an unstable person.

bucolic_frolic

(43,416 posts)
25. Last month our blood was being poisoned, now blood will be running
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:30 PM
Mar 16

Is he mentally tetched? Is this subconscious or deliberate in his mind? No political consultant would sign off on this twisted horror would they?

TheCowsCameHome

(40,169 posts)
37. He is a sick, perverted excuse for a human being.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:05 PM
Mar 16

It will be a joyous day when he no longer inhabits this planet.

gab13by13

(21,469 posts)
38. Tune in to Deadline White House every Wednesday
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:05 PM
Mar 16

when Nicolle has Marc Elias on if you think that trump can't win this election. It is also true that Joe Biden will win a fair election.

Marc Elias will scare the shit out of you. People just are not aware what Magats are doing right now to rig the election.

Start watching Thom Hartmann.

0rganism

(23,978 posts)
40. Except apparently we can and do
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:08 PM
Mar 16

It's up to the InFalliBLE American electorate to address this problem, what could possibly go wrong?

onenote

(42,799 posts)
83. That would mean you think his statement is false, right?
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:29 PM
Mar 17

Because the principle that yelling fire in a crowded fire is unprotected applies only when its false.

ecstatic

(32,760 posts)
46. He violated his bond in Fulton County Georgia. LOCK HIS ASS UP!!
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:38 PM
Mar 16
(2) The Defendant shall not violate the laws of this State, the laws of any other state, the laws of the United States of America, or any other local laws. Ayala v. State, 262 Ga. 704, 705 (1993)

(3) The Defendant shall appear in court as directed by the Court. Jd.

(4) The Defendant shall perform no act to intimidate any person known to him or her to be a codefendant or witness in this case or to otherwise obstruct the administration of justice.
Id. This shall include, but is not limited to, the following:

a. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against any codefendant;

b. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against any witness including, but not limited to, the individuals designated in the Indictment as an unindicated co-conspirators Individual 1 through Individual 30;

c. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against any victim;

d. The Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature against the community or to any property in the community;


e. The above shall include, but are not limited to, posts on social media or reposts of posts made by another individual on social media;

(5) The Defendant shall not communicate in any way, directly or indirectly, about the facts of this case with any person known to him to be a codefendant in this case except through his or her counsel.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23921630/donald-trumps-bond-agreement.pdf


I'm a victim because he tried to get my vote tossed and I'm a member of the community. LOCK HIM UP!

He'll want a speedy trial if his ass is behind bars.

YoshidaYui

(41,868 posts)
47. There is the likelihood that when Trump
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:47 PM
Mar 16

Loses his MAGA base will go nuts and riot with guns a-blazing and if they do the national guard will have to do its duty and put down the rioters and it will get ugly. Remember a lot of them already died from being unvaccinated and covid killed them.

Ford_Prefect

(7,927 posts)
48. Trump is a knowing terrorist. He knows how to threaten because he is also a serial abuser.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:52 PM
Mar 16

The DOJ, and the MSM are not prepared to respond to his threats because he's not physically attacked anyone. He has conveyed material threats, and has encouraged his followers to act violently, just as he did leading up to and on Jan. 6th. I believe that is called inciting to riot.
Someone in authority needs to call him out on that and swear a complaint along the lines of reckless endangerment.

He is not an ordinary person conveying an angry, momentary thought. He is the leader of the Republican party. He is likewise the acknowledged leader and spokes person for the MAGA movement, whose voice and language define and direct his followers' actions.
As such he is responsible for their actions.
Many ordinary people doing this have received visits from the FBI or Secret Service, often in service a warrant. Why not DJT?

Blue Owl

(50,536 posts)
50. Call the men in the white suits and lock this fucking lunatic up for fucking fuck's sake
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 09:04 PM
Mar 16

Jesus Fucking Christ!

elleng

(131,252 posts)
51. Quite right, and the electorate MUST be so INFORMED!
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 09:06 PM
Mar 16

'The former president has threatened . . . .!'

raging moderate

(4,314 posts)
52. Yes, this is how the US Civil War started.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 09:11 PM
Mar 16

Back in the mid-nineteenth century, tensions were very high between the pro-slavery and the anti-slavery US citizens. People in several states vowed to fight if Abraham Lincoln won the Presidency. Lincoln had to enter Washington DC very cautiously. And several states did, indeed, secede and start a civil war. We do need to take this seriously.

bdamomma

(63,941 posts)
68. He is actually
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 07:51 AM
Mar 17

calling out to his base, to kill other Americans, how sick and perverted is that??? Yes, this has to be taken seriously.

Justice matters.

(6,950 posts)
86. Khrouchtchev and now Putin's wet dream.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:02 PM
Mar 17

To destroy the United States from within, and the Justice system is obviously unable to do anything effective enough and fast enough to prevent it.

FloridaBlues

(4,010 posts)
57. We can over whelm them at the ballot box. Biden will be ready to have guards on
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 09:44 PM
Mar 16

Standby everywhere by state houses yes it may get ugly but perhaps they won’t come out for the blood bath. When these nuts see they are overwhelmed by guards. Or he just may be blowing noise out his ass. And nothing happens

Ping Tung

(749 posts)
63. Will he don his cute red cap and golden tennis shoes when he leads the charge?
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:41 AM
Mar 17

Or will it be a very short charge while wearing an orange jump suit across his cell?

hadEnuf

(2,222 posts)
85. And that's exatly how he works.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:48 PM
Mar 17

He will never lift a finger, just open his mouth. He is the epitome of a big, low-IQ cowardly, babied slob who has energized these lunatics who have been groomed and predisposed to this behavior for decades. Politics has already been dumbed down and dragged into the sewer by the likes of Gingrich and so many others. The way for a moral-less person like Trump was well paved to pull the trigger and fulfill the right's wettest of dreams.

Trump is playing the GOP too. They are so obsessively focused on their insane vision and goals that they don't care if they screw themselves in the process of fulfilling them. Trump knows this very well. He is the right's vehicle to power but they are his vehicle to power too.

Trump is the ultimate conman.

malaise

(269,237 posts)
87. Love this post
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:17 PM
Mar 17

ReTHUGs only want power by any means and they have empowered their confederate women-hating racists.

malaise

(269,237 posts)
76. It's always double speak with Smelvis
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:29 AM
Mar 17

BIden needs to respond on both levels after all Slobby predicted that the stock market would crash under Biden. So one was absolute bullshit and the other was a deliberate threat

Renew Deal

(81,889 posts)
99. What are you basing this on?
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 05:20 PM
Mar 17

Because he was talking about auto manufacturing and tariffs when this came up.

malaise

(269,237 posts)
103. Here's Mary Trump
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:01 AM
Mar 18

Donald Trump does not deserve the benefit of the doubt and this isn't a f***ing joke. His statement is both a threat and a promise. The corporate media needs to start acting accordingly," she wrote.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218787433

Ohioboy

(3,248 posts)
105. She is right
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:29 AM
Mar 18

This country is in the grips of cult! I just hope there are enough Americans not going along to survive.

Ohioboy

(3,248 posts)
107. But will they respect the will of We The People when they lose?
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:44 AM
Mar 18

They have a poor track record in that department. That's basically what this whole "bloodbath" thing is about. It's Trump saying he and his ilk are not going to accept the lose he deserves without wishing suffering upon the country.

Runningdawg

(4,527 posts)
79. A big word in law is precedent. It's has already been set. They have done nothing to him and WILL do nothing.
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 12:12 PM
Mar 17

UnderThisLaw

(318 posts)
90. Imagine the reaction
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:44 PM
Mar 17

From the GOP, the media, the public in general, and Americas enemies if Barack Obama had said the same thing.

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