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senseandsensibility

(17,236 posts)
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 05:43 PM Mar 16

I'm sorry, but the corporate media is complicit

CNN just ran a live shot normalizing his lie filled call for violence in OH. The reporter did not mention any of his lies, OR THE CALL FOR A BLOODBATH.

IT WAS NOT MENTIONED. What in god's name could justify this?

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I'm sorry, but the corporate media is complicit (Original Post) senseandsensibility Mar 16 OP
Money. onecaliberal Mar 16 #1
Dictators may appeal to greedy bastards, but they are a bad investment. unblock Mar 16 #4
I feel that you are missing the point. OldBaldy1701E Mar 16 #7
They are investing in the sense that they think helping Donnie will lead to profits unblock Mar 16 #11
The fact that they don't do well under dictators is the part they keep forgetting about. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Mar 16 #13
What do they think - they're going to get a raise? dchill Mar 16 #33
That would not surprise me in the slightest. Their (media owners) thought processes are barely active as it is. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Mar 17 #42
Journalism is now opportunism. dchill Mar 17 #46
Well, it is like any other aspect of unregulated capitalism. OldBaldy1701E Mar 18 #47
They do what their minders tell them to do. Irish_Dem Mar 16 #2
They'll make it a horserace, and they'll normalize all of his obscene and dangerous bullshit. LuckyCharms Mar 16 #3
When they're whining about being jailed NanaCat Mar 17 #36
if it bleed it leads RANDYWILDMAN Mar 16 #5
If it bleeds it leads senseandsensibility Mar 16 #6
Can you imagine how they would act if a Democrat Emile Mar 16 #8
Yes I can senseandsensibility Mar 16 #10
Of course they are. But it's certainly profitable. NewHendoLib Mar 16 #9
Their profits (ratings) senseandsensibility Mar 16 #12
It might sound strange. It might sound funny, but that's what people do for money Marcuse Mar 16 #14
Colossal creep. Joinfortmill Mar 16 #28
They are... Hugin Mar 16 #15
My hubby is asking these same questions! LittleGirl Mar 16 #16
Good points senseandsensibility Mar 16 #17
You won't get anywhere by not watching them on the telly NanaCat Mar 17 #37
I hear you LittleGirl Mar 17 #39
I think CNN anchors have been doing a good job of repeatedly calling out the lies. SYFROYH Mar 16 #18
Effin madness malaise Mar 16 #19
Or Biden senseandsensibility Mar 16 #20
This should be the lead story on CNN n/t CloudWatcher Mar 16 #21
And every other outlet senseandsensibility Mar 16 #22
REPUBLICAN owned corporate media. live love laugh Mar 16 #23
There is no good explanation why Trump is not in federal custody at this moment PufPuf23 Mar 16 #24
CNN is really concerning. I don't usually watch, actually I never watch it but happened to be Bev54 Mar 16 #25
Freedom is an illusion. The curtain has been pulled back...George Carlin got it right. cayugafalls Mar 16 #26
They bear great responsibility for the mess we're in. Joinfortmill Mar 16 #27
👍🏼...K&R...👍🏼 spanone Mar 16 #29
you don't need to apologize for telling the truth. barbtries Mar 16 #30
I'm sorry, but I completely agree. dchill Mar 16 #31
Absolutely. dalton99a Mar 16 #32
Biden-Harris campaign statement on Trump tonight promising a "bloodbath" if he loses LetMyPeopleVote Mar 17 #34
I predict that the tabloid media will devote NanaCat Mar 17 #38
No need to apologize for stating a fact NanaCat Mar 17 #35
Kicking for morning crowd Niagara Mar 17 #40
Thanks! senseandsensibility Mar 17 #43
My pleasure, senseandsensibility Niagara Mar 17 #44
Of course they are. He is their golden cow. republianmushroom Mar 17 #41
What's the best way to combat this OP? NYC2ATL Mar 17 #45
The Biden campaign just released this devastating ad putting into perspective Donald Trump's "bloodbath" comment. LetMyPeopleVote Mar 18 #48
Very good! senseandsensibility Mar 18 #49

OldBaldy1701E

(5,213 posts)
7. I feel that you are missing the point.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:20 PM
Mar 16

They are not investing in a dictator, they are investing in the fact that everyone wants to read about a dictator. If the dictator falls, well, not bother, just on to the next shiny object to increase readership and make even more money. They have nothing vested in that orange gibbon (or this democracy if we are to be honest here) other than the fact that he brings in more money than stories about Biden or any Democrat... unless that Democrat is arrested or gets caught in a compromising position... then it's Johnny, Bar the door!

unblock

(52,499 posts)
11. They are investing in the sense that they think helping Donnie will lead to profits
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:31 PM
Mar 16

But it's extremely short-sighted. Journalists do not fare well under dictators. Some media companies can do fine as propagandists for a while, but eventually, it's a disaster for them along with everyone else.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,213 posts)
42. That would not surprise me in the slightest. Their (media owners) thought processes are barely active as it is. (n/t)
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 02:41 PM
Mar 17

OldBaldy1701E

(5,213 posts)
47. Well, it is like any other aspect of unregulated capitalism.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:45 AM
Mar 18

You go where the money is, regardless of any other criteria. They are no different than a hedge fund or a 'hostile takeover' specialist, they want more and more money. Since basic news is not profitable, they have to go the soap opera route.

And, we keep on believing that they will snap out of it. That is our mistake.

LuckyCharms

(17,472 posts)
3. They'll make it a horserace, and they'll normalize all of his obscene and dangerous bullshit.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 05:55 PM
Mar 16

And then they'll scream bloody murder when he sets his brainless goons upon them.

And then we'll hear "HOW DID THIS HAPPEN" from them.

It's surreal.

NanaCat

(1,539 posts)
36. When they're whining about being jailed
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:36 AM
Mar 17

Or about to be executed, everyone still around who opposed this stuff needs to both-sides their predicament.

It will add the cherry on top to the 'We told you so' sundae.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,680 posts)
5. if it bleed it leads
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:00 PM
Mar 16

they are more then complicit

they are actively encouraging this crap and gas lighting all the viewers into making it ok. Cronkite is rolling in his grave and rather had no idea how much damage normalizing Bush v Gore battle would cause.

Bush is the entitled country club dolt, who made Trump seem not the total shit bag he truly is...

senseandsensibility

(17,236 posts)
6. If it bleeds it leads
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:14 PM
Mar 16

unless it hurts Rs. They are literally not leading with (or even covering) a story about a bloodbath.

senseandsensibility

(17,236 posts)
10. Yes I can
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:31 PM
Mar 16

I honestly think he would be forced to resign. They would not let it go even if he apologized. Of course it would never happen.

senseandsensibility

(17,236 posts)
12. Their profits (ratings)
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:50 PM
Mar 16

are down. Now getting cheato in office for more tax cuts for their owners is a possible motive. But they are not getting more profits from ratings with this BS coverage.

LittleGirl

(8,292 posts)
16. My hubby is asking these same questions!
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:57 PM
Mar 16

What is happening to these headlines?
For example, he asked about the charges dropped from 45s trial. I told him that they dropped 6 of the 31 charges. He said, they (the media) made it sound like all charges had been dropped and he had this ticked off face. I nodded in agreement. I know. You have to read the article. It’s clickbate headlines. What do you do?

Cancel your NYTimes subscription which we did months ago. I’m all for giving up 24/7 news channels and websites until they stop this crap. That’s why I’m at DU.

senseandsensibility

(17,236 posts)
17. Good points
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:00 PM
Mar 16

The NYT has really been beyond the pale. Apparently, according to David Corn, they didn't even think it was worth while covering the story about Pence not endorsing.

NanaCat

(1,539 posts)
37. You won't get anywhere by not watching them on the telly
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 01:40 AM
Mar 17

Every single time you pay your cable bill, you are giving cable news the money to lie to you. Even if you don't watch, you're giving them money to lie to you with the payment of every cable bill.

Stop paying them, and make sure your cable provider knows why you've cancelled. You can get all the news you need, even nearly all of the same coverage, online, and for free if you know where to look.

LittleGirl

(8,292 posts)
39. I hear you
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 03:36 AM
Mar 17

but I live overseas (for now) and getting other news sources is easy over here in Europe. We also enjoy privacy rules and laws that the US refuses to implement. After Russia attacked Ukraine two years ago, the RT network (Russia tv) disappeared from our lineup. Which, is awesome that the country I live in said "NOPE" we're shutting you down.

SYFROYH

(34,186 posts)
18. I think CNN anchors have been doing a good job of repeatedly calling out the lies.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:00 PM
Mar 16

Perhaps not 100%, but very often.

PufPuf23

(8,856 posts)
24. There is no good explanation why Trump is not in federal custody at this moment
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:40 PM
Mar 16

after that incident which all can view.

Our government and legal system are compromised.

Bev54

(10,093 posts)
25. CNN is really concerning. I don't usually watch, actually I never watch it but happened to be
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:43 PM
Mar 16

surfing stations until I got Canadian News and CNN is one off. As I hit it I noticed the woman (I don't know who she is) was interviewing an "expert" on Trump's court proceedings. I waited to see who he was when they put up the name and low and behold it was Ed O’Callaghan. I had never heard of him before (and certainly have never seen him) until recently from Empty Wheel. I am not sure what he is doing on CNN, perhaps trying to get ahead of things that he may have been involved with at SDNY and Cohen. I find it more than mere coincidence that he is now showing up on CNN. Here is how Marcy Wheeler described him:

Trump is also, undoubtedly, seeking details of then PADAG Ed O’Callaghan’s fuckery.

Once SDNY did charge Cohen, O’Callaghan intervened to demand that SDNY take language out of Cohen’s statement of offense making it clear that Individual-1 was part of the crime.

Consistent with DOJ guidelines, we first submitted the information to the Public Integrity Section at Main Justice. They signed off.

We then sent a copy to Rod Rosenstein, informing him that a plea was imminent. The next day, Khuzami, who was overseeing the case, received a call from O’Callaghan, Rosenstein’s principal deputy.

O’Callaghan was aggressive.

Why the length, he wanted to know. He argued that now that Cohen is pleading guilty we don’t need all this description.

Khuzami responded, What exactly are you concerned about?

O’Callaghan proceeded to identify specific allegations that he wanted removed, almost all referencing Individual-1. It quickly became apparent to Khuzami that, contrary to what O’Callaghan professed, it wasn’t the overall length or detail of the document that concerned him; it was any mention of Individual-1. Khuzami and O’Callaghan went through a handful of these allegations, some of which Khuzami agreed to strike; others, to ensure a coherent description of the crime, he did not.

Berman’s prosecutors stayed up all night cutting the Information from 40 pages to 21.

The team was tasked with the rewrite and stayed up most of the night. The revised information, now twenty-one pages, kept all of the charges but removed certain allegations, including allegations that Individual-1 acted “in concert with” and “coordinated with” Cohen on the illegal campaign contributions. The information now alleged that Cohen acted in concert and coordinated with “one or more members of the campaign.” But in the end, everything that truly needed to be in the information was still there.

Cohen included those details in his verbal allocution anyway.

The most consequential details that O’Callaghan wanted removed still wound up in the public record, simply because Cohen acknowledged them in open court. He testified that Trump not only knew about the six-figure payoffs designed to keep Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal from going public but had orchestrated them.

With regard to McDougal, Cohen said that he and “the candidate worked together to keep an individual with information that would be harmful to the candidate and to the campaign from publicly disclosing this information. After a number of discussions, we eventually accomplished the goal by the media company entering into a contract with the individual under which she received compensation of $150,000.”

As for Stormy Daniels, Cohen admitted that he had, “in coordination with, and at the direction direction of, the same candidate, [arranged] to make a payment to a second individual with information that would be harmful to the candidate and to the campaign to keep the individual from disclosing the information. To accomplish this, I used a company that was under my control to make a payment in the sum of $130,000.”

Any paperwork describing this dispute will not help Trump as much as an OLC memo saying his hush payments weren’t a federal crime. But he will use them to suggest that Rod Rosenstein didn’t think Trump was a part of it.

senseandsensibility

(17,236 posts)
49. Very good!
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 02:49 PM
Mar 18

Moves like this by our side are so important since most of the media wants to normalize his rhetoric.

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