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Pluvious

(4,334 posts)
Wed Mar 13, 2024, 10:00 PM Mar 13

The Hill: "Trump's GOP is already dying"

This is a most delish and delightful piece

Enjoy

Trump’s GOP is already dying

Lara Trump is nominally co-chair alongside former North Carolina Republican Party Chair Michael Whatley. Both received former President Trump’s endorsement for the role. In practice, the power dynamic is more like when the Roman emperor granted his family a shared consulship with an irrelevant senator. In case any Republican was confused about where true power rested, Trump began her tenure atop the RNC with a sweeping purge of the unfaithful.

Donald Trump’s MAGA ideology can now claim the House Speakership and formal control of the RNC. With Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) stepping down from his role as Senate minority leader, Trump will likely soon control that post as well.

...

Trump’s GOP is a paradox. The former president now enjoys an unprecedented level of control over the Republican national apparatus. He can freely raid the RNC’s dwindling campaign coffers for legal defense money and appoint family members to key positions while personally directing House Republicans’ disastrous investigations into Joe and Hunter Biden. Trump’s total dominance of the Republican Party is a remarkable thing to behold.

...

One RNC donor, Peter Henlein, voiced many Republicans’ outrage at the new arrangement in a post on X, formerly Twitter. “After a lifetime of donating to every GOP nominee and multiple down ballot candidates every cycle….I’m out,” Henlein wrote. “I donated to help win elections, not to maintain the lifestyle of a billionaire.”


Much much more...
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4528680-trumps-gop-is-already-dying/
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The Hill: "Trump's GOP is already dying" (Original Post) Pluvious Mar 13 OP
This is closer to how I read things, than any poll and accompanying story in the NYT. nt BootinUp Mar 13 #1
Even if *some* of the polls say we are losing right now, it takes MONEY DemocraticPatriot Mar 14 #46
It will... 2naSalit Mar 13 #2
"be best" madamesilverspurs Mar 13 #9
YES-A-ROONY-PIE!!! calimary Mar 13 #11
Too soon to tell. 2naSalit Mar 14 #13
I'm hoping that demographic changes will make the future of a "reborn" Republican party Sky Jewels Mar 14 #33
I'm hoping you're right! calimary Mar 14 #34
This toon belongs in this thread... Pluvious Mar 13 #3
Campaign to buy canetoad Mar 13 #4
Exactly! C Moon Mar 13 #10
+1 dalton99a Mar 14 #20
You gotta dance with the zombie that brought ya. lindysalsagal Mar 13 #5
Purge the disloyal 🐀 rats, Lara! rubbersole Mar 13 #6
And make sure none of those Icky Nikki Haley supporters are allowed. OMGWTF Mar 14 #15
I want the MAGA GQP shit killed fucking dead. I hate the fuck out of the whole goddamn turd of a regime. SoFlaBro Mar 13 #7
But... How do you really feel ? LOL (nt) Pluvious Mar 14 #30
Personally, I would have added one more "fuck" but you be you! tazkcmo Mar 14 #41
Cults bdamomma Mar 15 #50
I pray to Baby Jesus that they go the way of the Jim Jones cultists. "Please sweet Baby Jesus make it fucking so!" SoFlaBro Mar 15 #53
Everything Trump touches dies Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 13 #8
We gave Mitch multiple opportunities to cut the loser lose but he didn't take them. CrispyQ Mar 14 #29
Ray Charles would have seen this coming CatWoman Mar 14 #12
That message needs to be circulated around. lpbk2713 Mar 14 #14
Sadly, zombies can be dangerous Silent3 Mar 14 #16
There is no doubt that they will run the RNC into the ground. Renew Deal Mar 14 #17
What worries me is all the oligarchs that are still adding billions to republican wins so they can keep stacking the BComplex Mar 16 #56
Same old casino milking strategy bucolic_frolic Mar 14 #18
"Republicans have built themselves a party whose sole purpose is to appease and gratify Trump." dalton99a Mar 14 #19
He reminds me of The Doomsday Machine in the original Star Trek. tanyev Mar 14 #42
I like the remastered effects, brings it up to date without changing the story ArkansasDemocrat1 Mar 14 #43
its no longer the party of abe , but the party of t,,, and his personal piggy bank. AllaN01Bear Mar 14 #21
True... lonely bird Mar 14 #22
I wish this was true. BannonsLiver Mar 14 #23
It's death can't happen soon enough. republianmushroom Mar 14 #24
"HIS" death can't happen soon enough....... AZ8theist Mar 14 #37
Without the party he is nothing. republianmushroom Mar 14 #39
no no! NO! DonCoquixote Mar 14 #25
Whatever, they've been saying this for a while now Plectranthus Mar 14 #26
Oh god! I fear that's an accurate assessment liberalla Mar 15 #48
1+ keithbvadu2 Mar 14 #27
"MAGA Ideology" is whatever serves Dear Leader Martin Eden Mar 14 #28
Seizing control of the RNC was a stupid move by Trump. patphil Mar 14 #31
It was about grabbing cash for himself and to ensure only those willing to eat the peanuts out of Trump's brewens Mar 15 #51
The Bride of Gums is pleased Blue Owl Mar 14 #32
Sure. Orrex Mar 14 #35
As a wise man once said: Xavier Breath Mar 14 #36
I cannot wait for November wryter2000 Mar 14 #38
GOP in its death throes. Joinfortmill Mar 14 #40
The GOP will fall in line angrychair Mar 14 #44
I just wish it would die faster. ShazzieB Mar 14 #45
Naming Rights Desert Dog Mar 15 #47
The GOP as we knew it has already gone the way of the whigs. Hugin Mar 15 #49
George Washington warned us about forming political parties. He was right. Ping Tung Mar 15 #52
Dark money will appear where, and when, it is needed getagrip_already Mar 15 #54
Those stolen Republican emails must still be white hot with compromising info uponit7771 Mar 15 #55

DemocraticPatriot

(4,500 posts)
46. Even if *some* of the polls say we are losing right now, it takes MONEY
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 10:15 PM
Mar 14

to turn out voters!!! Not just advertising, but for GOTV operations. The Republican Party in my state of Michigan is BROKE right now, and their big donors in this state are not kicking in so far, have indeed been chased away by the MAGAt wing.

Women and young people carried our party to victory in the 22 midterms in Michigan, by 11 points for the Governor's re-election, and took over the state government for the first time in 40 years! (in the year of the "Red Wave midterm fantasy" )

I don't think those voters are going to stay home in "Rovember," and Democrats have been over-performing in all the special and off-year elections.

We have all that in our favor, to start with---

but with Michigan, Arizona and possibly other state GOP parties in bad financial condition,
and Trump now sucking up ALL of the money from the National GOP,
this is not going to be a "level playing field" for Republicans in 2024!


Wish I could cite a link here, but it was a story on my phone's newsapp--
There is a pro-Biden PAC which is committed to spending $250 million in advertising on this election!

That's more than twice as much money as President Biden and the Trump campaign now have as cash on hand, put together!



I'd rather be US than the Republicans right now,
even if they currently look better in *some* polls---
(and I think that will change before November!)

calimary

(81,566 posts)
11. YES-A-ROONY-PIE!!!
Wed Mar 13, 2024, 11:59 PM
Mar 13

I look forward to that day. But I also remain vigilant about what might replace the RNC if and when it finally bites the dust. Somehow better, at long last, or WORSE?

Sky Jewels

(7,194 posts)
33. I'm hoping that demographic changes will make the future of a "reborn" Republican party
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 01:41 PM
Mar 14

shaky at best. The Silent generation was very reliably conservative/Republican (they loved them some Ronnie Raygun), but their voting power is getting to the "almost insignificant" stage as their numbers dwindle drastically (and it wasn't a large generation to begin with). Boomers have already lost a third of their members, and the oldest will hit 80 in less than two years. My generation, Gen X, kinda sucks politically (we old Xers came of age when Reagan got elected, and too many of my peers drink the Kool Aid), but, like the Silent Gen, we are not a large generation, and the Xers born in the '70s seem to be less right wing than the 60s-born Xers. (Yes, these are all sweeping generalities.) Those born after 1980, again, in general, do not seem to buy into propaganda as those born in the early-to-mid 20th century. And, of course, the younger generations are much more educated and much less white and much less religious. They are PISSED OFF about Dobbs, global warming, gun violence, etc., especially the young women, who will outvote the males. So, in the future, good luck to any political party relying solely on pre-1980-born white, rural, non-college, mostly male, practicing Christian voters. It will have a massively uphill battle. There just aren't enough of those types around to maintain anything other than scattered regional power, and they're getting scarcer by the day.

calimary

(81,566 posts)
34. I'm hoping you're right!
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 01:53 PM
Mar 14

The dynamics you cite seem to make all kinds of sense. Just this latter-day "invasion of the body snatchers" against a woman's right to rule her own body should be enough. But there's so much more beyond that.

rubbersole

(6,752 posts)
6. Purge the disloyal 🐀 rats, Lara!
Wed Mar 13, 2024, 11:26 PM
Mar 13

Don't put up with those radical leftist RHINOs! You are a rising superstar, Lara! Eric loves you! TSF likes your body, Lara! You are so warm and fuzzy, Lara! (Plus, you are so much more beautiful than that bitch Kimberly. And truthfully, Lara, Ivanka doesn't hold a candle to your popularity.)

SoFlaBro

(1,992 posts)
7. I want the MAGA GQP shit killed fucking dead. I hate the fuck out of the whole goddamn turd of a regime.
Wed Mar 13, 2024, 11:28 PM
Mar 13

SoFlaBro

(1,992 posts)
53. I pray to Baby Jesus that they go the way of the Jim Jones cultists. "Please sweet Baby Jesus make it fucking so!"
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 11:27 AM
Mar 15

CrispyQ

(36,556 posts)
29. We gave Mitch multiple opportunities to cut the loser lose but he didn't take them.
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 12:59 PM
Mar 14

SMDH

If he had any integrity at all & we know he doesn't, he would retire & denounce the orange shit stain.

lpbk2713

(42,772 posts)
14. That message needs to be circulated around.
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 12:06 AM
Mar 14


“I donated to help win elections, not to maintain the lifestyle of a billionaire.”

Silent3

(15,425 posts)
16. Sadly, zombies can be dangerous
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 01:02 AM
Mar 14

The remains of the Republican party are still too twitchy for my comfort.

BComplex

(8,082 posts)
56. What worries me is all the oligarchs that are still adding billions to republican wins so they can keep stacking the
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 12:38 PM
Mar 16

courts. Leonard Leo pumped billions into this upcoming election for senators and reps, as did a bunch of other more reclusive billionaires.

dalton99a

(81,683 posts)
19. "Republicans have built themselves a party whose sole purpose is to appease and gratify Trump."
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 10:55 AM
Mar 14

And Trump is never satisfied.



ArkansasDemocrat1

(1,289 posts)
43. I like the remastered effects, brings it up to date without changing the story
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 08:45 PM
Mar 14

They even substituted digital chronometers for those moments when a visual clock was a plot element. The orbiting effects, well, here... I personally would have wanted the finely detailed weather available from orbit, but still using the original model effect.

[link:|

lonely bird

(1,698 posts)
22. True...
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 11:34 AM
Mar 14

That being said, the Party of Lincoln abandoned Black Americans with the end of Reconstruction. White, conservative businessmen in the North wanted to do business with the South and dismantling Reconstruction allowed that to happen.

AZ8theist

(5,530 posts)
37. "HIS" death can't happen soon enough.......
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 03:41 PM
Mar 14

What is the party supposed to do when Doturd inevitably kicks the bucket? Appoint one of his imbecile spawns as replacement?

Then we're in North Korea territory.........

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
25. no no! NO!
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 12:17 PM
Mar 14

The evil the gop represents was baked into our bones since 1619. Even if every GOP were to vanish into Vapor, the hate and greed and stupidity the GOP represents would find someone to revive it. It is not a matter of stomping out the flames, it is a matter the we have to KEEP stomping!

Martin Eden

(12,882 posts)
28. "MAGA Ideology" is whatever serves Dear Leader
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 12:57 PM
Mar 14

This has never been about "Making America Great Again" or helping the deluded fools who vote for Don the Con.

It has always been about the personal interests, lust for wealth & power, and filling a bottomless void within the giant but fragile ego of a sociapathic malignant narcissist -- and those with an agenda riding the coattails of the megalomaniac.

That such a creature exists is not surprising, but his capture of the Republican Party speaks volumes about the degradation its members and voters.

patphil

(6,242 posts)
31. Seizing control of the RNC was a stupid move by Trump.
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 01:33 PM
Mar 14

But the temptation to grab RNC cash was irresistible.
This action does massive damage to the RNC and it's fundraising ability,
Peter Henlein probably speaks for a lot of the major donors.
They'll either donate directly to individual campaign PACS, or close their wallets.

Somehow I get the feeling that Trump doesn't have any where near the wealth he claims.
Of course he's going to be broke when those judgments are finally paid.
I would love to see Mar-a-Lago on the block.

brewens

(13,650 posts)
51. It was about grabbing cash for himself and to ensure only those willing to eat the peanuts out of Trump's
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 11:04 AM
Mar 15

shit get any money. Prepare to see many republicans sink even lower.

Orrex

(63,261 posts)
35. Sure.
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 02:58 PM
Mar 14

The Republican Party has been “on its last legs” for at least the past 40 years, yet they still control the judiciary, many state legislatures, many governorships, and half the congress.

I’ll believe that Trump’s GOP or any GOP is dying when they are a tiny, impotent minority that dole can barely remember.

wryter2000

(46,130 posts)
38. I cannot wait for November
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 03:46 PM
Mar 14

I'm not sitting still, though. I'll be making calls and donating what little I can.

But I can't wait for every "pundit" who went on and on about Biden's age and low poll numbers to have to admit they were wrong. Not holding my breath, of course.

angrychair

(8,750 posts)
44. The GOP will fall in line
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 09:28 PM
Mar 14

There is no such thing as a "good" Republican. They are all cowardly sycophants. All this talk of donors backing out is ridiculous. That donor Peter Henlein they quoted will likely get a visit from some "nice" gentleman from the RNC and he will have a sudden change of heart and double his normal contributions. They always fold. Republicans have no morals, ethics or spines.

ShazzieB

(16,620 posts)
45. I just wish it would die faster.
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 09:55 PM
Mar 14

I feel like I'm watching a train wreck in slow motion. Just hurry up and die and already, GOP!

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
49. The GOP as we knew it has already gone the way of the whigs.
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 10:33 AM
Mar 15

And by this time next week it will be unrecognizable and irreversible.

What the Democrats need to be doing is thinking about the way ahead in how to operate in a nation where there’s a single democratically organized party versus a hodgepodge of well funded so-called strong men and tyrants.

Ping Tung

(761 posts)
52. George Washington warned us about forming political parties. He was right.
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 11:19 AM
Mar 15
"However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards ...

We no longer register by party in Washington. It's move in the right direction because we choose between the best candidates instead of party.

getagrip_already

(14,946 posts)
54. Dark money will appear where, and when, it is needed
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 12:29 PM
Mar 15

It's always worked that way. Some million/billionaire will step up and fund state infrastructure efforts for voter suppression and gotv.

Don't sit back and gloat just cuz stinky is eating the pie in the cupboard. The oligarchs will grease the skids at the right time.

The rnc hasn't really been a critical player since citizens united. Useful, but not critical.

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