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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTake your guess: does the GA Judge rule for Fani or against?
I think what he did today with dismissing the 6 cases was his gift to Trump.
But I dont think he will rule that Willis is off of the case.
At least, Im hoping not. Fingers crossed 🤞
The legal commentators that I saw on TV seemed to agree with you, but they admitted that they were only reading the tea leaves.
madaboutharry
(40,236 posts)He told them to go back and fix errors and then re-indict the charges. How is that a gift? The prosecutors made a mistake in the indictment. He told them to fix it and then he will reinstated the charges.
I also think Fani Willis stays on the case.
lastlib
(23,339 posts)...if they want to reinstate these charges. It didn't sound like they could just re-write that part of the indictment.
(I could be wrong, just my interpretation of things that have been said.) Or they could just leave these aside, and go ahead with the RICO case. But IANAL.....
madaboutharry
(40,236 posts)The way Glenn Kirschner described it, it doesnt seem all that complicated or that uncommon.
onecaliberal
(32,934 posts)jimfields33
(16,041 posts)dchill
(38,569 posts)...the prosecutors to bring a stronger, less appealable case.
DaBronx
(305 posts)Not without some harsh criticism directed at her. Perhaps some due. But, she will prevail and move forward until some fd up Supreme Court puts a kabosh on the whole thing.
ripcord
(5,553 posts)The appearance of impropriety is as bad as actual impropriety. You do not hire people you have relationships with.
And whether it was before or after, it is nonetheless problematic.
I think worse come to worse, Wade will have to leave, but Willis will stay and thats the most important factor.
DaBronx
(305 posts)Not an awful outcome but we hold the line at Fani!
Sympthsical
(9,141 posts)With Bradley and Wade, they have all of the things they now have to explain to the Georgia State Bar. And if you haven't been following the details of everything that's gone on behind the scenes outside of the televised court hearings, it's a whole lot.
I would be surprised if they kept their licenses at this point. And that has less to do with the Trump case than what happened in Wade's divorce where Bradley represented him. It is not out of the question to wonder if Wade faces actual charges over it. Disbarment might be the lightest thing he manages.
Willis is just plain trickier a call. There are political ramifications. The judge said in the closing hearing that he was concerned that DQing her could have farther reaching consequences than intended, that other unrelated indictments and cases could be thrown into chaos. He asked Trump's attorneys about this. What keeps this from becoming a spreading chaos? I don't know that they had a good answer. So, he has his reservations. He can excise Wade and leave Willis there. He might split that baby.
Do I think everyone was lying their heads off in all this? Absolutely. I think anyone with two eyes and common sense can see that there are severe problems in all of this. It is a ripe instance for people to play the "If this were a Republican, how would we feel about it?" Let me spoil that one: Furious and calling for resignations.
But two eyes and common sense ain't a judge and jury, and what the judge can or cannot consider are much more narrowly tailored things, constrained by law and precedent.
So I'm still 50/50 on this one. Does the judge have cause? Probably. Will he? We can't say. We still have no idea what standard he's even going to use. Either way, it'll be interesting.
And note: I'm not bashing Democrats. I'm just relating what I've personally watched, seen, read, and heard throughout the course of this, which is probably a lot more than most people. I've read every filing, watched every hearing - including the state Senate one - and read every article possible about it - I loves me some drama. This isn't about who one supports in election. This is about whether a legal process and prosecution is being conducted appropriately.
And if anyone wants to reflexively take Wade's side out of politics, go dig up how he ran interference in Cobb county for a sheriff over prisoner mistreatment of Black men because an election was coming up. Enjoy that one. He billed $550/hour to do it, too.
DaBronx
(305 posts)Your post was so thorough Im wondering if you feel the same interest in the royal family saga and whether you might opine on that?! Cause I love that drama!
Sympthsical
(9,141 posts)I can't say I'm very engrossed in it, but I've been absorbing a lot through sheer social media osmosis.
I don't think there was anything initially crazy nefarious about it. I think she had something like a bowel resection, which has a long recovery time. She probably still doesn't look great - it's a son of a wench recovery - and she may have thought, "Hey, let's just use this opportunity to decompress and stay out of the public eye." Surgery is a pretty good excuse to get out of the limelight.
And then the Palace . . . did all that. I think it's just their customary hubris and arrogance - they don't feel like they need to answer to anybody. And the British press are usually so obeisant towards them, they figured they said all they had to say about it.
But Americans aren't that. I don't think they counted on the fact our social media would glom onto it, and our media will not defer. They see clicks and eyeballs. The British press must be barely containing themselves, because you just know they have sources somewhere that know more, but none of them have taken the leap just yet.
DaBronx
(305 posts)You are so funny! I find it all very interesting (although I dont support the idea of a monarchy). The firm seems to have advised poorly. What were they thinking? Seems like a good time for Harry to jump back. Well see. While they all have luxuries, at the same time they lack basic freedoms. Id never join the royals! Hoping they dont ask!
Sympthsical
(9,141 posts)Which is probably adding to why this is so funny. The most boring royal couple in eons, and now it's turned into True Detective Season 6. Meghan's probably in Montecito with a big bowl of popcorn and calling all of her friends on the daily.
The only truly interesting thing I ever heard about Waleses was the Prince of Pegging, and even then, it's like, "Well if there's no video, I'm not that interested."
I would pay to see the video, tho. Like, ten quid maybe.
gab13by13
(21,447 posts)this Magat judge is the president of the Federalist Society in Georgia. If the judge doesn't remove her the state legislature will open procedures to remove her with their new law.
Then we have a Magat judge presiding over the documents trial.
Is Schumer putting judges up for confirmation?
TexasDem69
(1,854 posts)If so, the Senate has no say over Georgias judges. If not, then ignore this comment.
Sympthsical
(9,141 posts)To fill a vacancy left by a retiring judge. But McAfee does have to run for re-election, which will be in May, I believe.
He also isn't the president of Georgia's Federalist Society. Poster might be confusing that with the fact he was vice-president of his college chapter of the organization when he was in school.
onenote
(42,794 posts)TwilightZone
(25,505 posts)He was the VP of his college chapter at UGA Law. Those aren't even remotely the same thing.
"While in law school, McAfee was vice president of the local chapter of the Federalist Society"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/03/12/judge-scott-mcafee-trump-georgia-case-fani-willis/
onenote
(42,794 posts)There are several chapters in Georgia. Judge McAfee isn't the president of any of them. See https://fedsoc.org/chapters/GA
But I'm sure you have some information I don't have and can share it, right?
Silent Type
(3,005 posts)decision, but the case is likely delayed. And, the appearance of impropriety might sway some jurors. Doubt there are many people in jury pool who have heard about this distraction.
I have nightmares where some judge rules that its impossible for trump to get a fair trial.
malaise
(269,225 posts)rec