Are we watching the beginning of the end of Trump and MAGA?

[skip fox]

I might be hanging too much on one speech and a good week, as well as Trump's dislocation during speeches an inviting authoritarians to his home, but I sense a seismic shift is beginning (or accelerating).

Am I wrong?

[Voltaire2]

1. Did he drop dead?

Otherwise no.

[3Hotdogs]

4. No he didn't. Atheist satellites have been blocking my prayers from getting through to Jesus.

They also stopped me from winning the lottery last week.

[Voltaire2]

7. F'ing atheists wreck everything.

[twodogsbarking]

42. Flying atheists?

[dameatball]

14. You ain't alone!

[3Hotdogs]

16. So tell me. What of your prayers did they

Stop from getting through?

[Gore1FL]

32. I was the atheist at the controls last night and can confirm. nt

[dameatball]

40. That lottery thing. I think my request is getting through but the winning numbers are blocked from coming back.

[DBoon]

18. Try praying to a different god

Or maybe a sacrifice. We don't sacrifice goats anymore, maybe a tuna sandwich instead

[calguy]

19. Well... I 'almost' hit the lottery last week

All I needed was four more numbers for my retirement strategy to work. Damn...! So close.

[flying_wahini]

26. Call the Lottery officials and tell them "you just need four numbers".

[calguy]

35. It was rigged! I'm telling you, it was absolutely rigged!

[agingdem]

27. and even then I won't allow myself to believe

the asshole is dead until I personally can lean over his open casket with my 10 inch antique hatpin (pearl handle) and stab the son-of-a-bitch a few times and witness the embalming fluid ooze out of rancid body...

[ShepKat]

31. haha

I'm saying that about Dick cheney

[agingdem]

36. I have another hatpin I can lend you..

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no pearl handle but long and sharp...

[niyad]

43. Thank you for reminding me about the hatpins!

[redstatebluegirl]

2. Nope, how many times have we said he was done?

Until we bury them at the polls on November I assume that are still up and running.

[LakeArenal]

29. Even after we bury him there will be months of whining and lawsuits about the rigged election.

So even when we cut off his head, his body will keep wiggling and scaring up the mindless.

[tulipsandroses]

3. No. MAGA is here to stay. Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube

We can not let our guard down. Even if trump loses, they will not go away. We need to accept that at least 1/3 of this country is bigoted and would rather see an authoritarian in power than give all Americans true equality.

[Wounded Bear]

12. Hitler died in 1945 and we still have NAZIs running around...

even in Germany. Once one of these RW cults gets traction, it lingers on like the stink on your shoes when you step in shit.

[bucolic_frolic]

5. I don't think you're wrong

Common sense and the American middle has reasserted itself. We still have work to do on paranoia and stupidity and right wing news, but our solid foundation has surfaced and mainstream folks will flock to it.

Love how Joe Biden's speeches are laced with, "Folks!" when he wants you to pay attention. He is so genuine. He's not Joe because he wears a hat or a red tie. He's Joe because he connects with working people, which is most of us.

[skip fox]

11. Good point. And when have we ever heard of "Don Trump"?

[anciano]

6. Agreed.

It does seem like the tide is turning.

[MiHale]

8. Still tons of time left but...

I can’t disagree with you. The biggest thing for me was hearing about the contributions coming in…record setting. A high percentage of them were ‘unique’ contributors. Almost says more than any poll.

[doc03]

9. Although Biden did a great SOTU speech

the people we need to convince didn't watch it. His speech will be forgotten in a matter of days. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.

[Qutzupalotl]

22. I think the plan is to use clips from the speech in ads,

which would reach more people. They have done this in the past. They make for a great ad. Thursday gave them a lot more to work with.

It's true that he stepped on a few of his best lines. But he will be returning to those themes on the campaign trail, and clips from those can be edited in seamlessly for a rousing effect in an ad.

So although the people who needed to hear the speech didn't watch it, there will be opportunities to present them with Joe's messages in shorter sound bites several more times before November.

[lindysalsagal]

10. Maybe not the end of magats. But the edges are rotting away

And deteriorating the power of the disease. Even from the start, we had 25-30% monarchists. They've always been there. Trouble is or election system affords too much electoral power to rural agricultural states that have more corn than voters. So we have to over-win to beat them.

[skip fox]

17. Nor their gullibility.

Of course, as any good grifter knows, the two go hand-in-hand.

[skip fox]

13. Call it "The beginning of America's long road back to sanity."

To most, I think, Trump has begun to sound boring (after all, howl long can outrage and childishness remain the center of gravity?) and MAGA has begun to seem old, last decade's fad.

What I mean by "most," is all but MAGA (true conservatives, independents, etc.), 65-70% of the rest of the country.

[Emile]

15. It takes time, but MAGATS will eventually destroy

the Republican party.

[LizBeth]

20. I have been hearing that for 7 yrs, give or take.

[karynnj]

21. You may be correct that this is the tipping point, but we can NOT let down

Until the election is over, the votes counted and Joe Biden sworn in again, we should not let down or question whether we are in an existential crisis.

[dutch777]

23. Two things that would really help. End to gerrymandering and bigger bolder policy proposals. No more timidity.

The first would likely get us the House back. The second we could use to disarm the Repugs on things like immigration and debt concern. Just being the party of action rather than the party of complaint and conspiracy is our edge and sanity can win out over insanity and endless dysfunction. I know fix gerrymandering is not a few months project...it's years. But there has been a start.

[republianmushroom]

24. No, not yet.

[liberal N proud]

25. Prison cell or a coffin are the only way Biden's Predecessor goes away.

[LeftInTX]

28. Not in Texas. MAGA just ousted the current Court of Criminal Appeals here.

Trump also endorsed all these candidates and they won. Trump supports Ken Paxton.
[link:https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/05/texas-court-of-criminal-appeals-republican-primary/|

[SARose]

34. MAGA lives in Texas

You are correct. Paxton wants to be Attorney General of the US. His office spent more than $6 million dollars so far on frivolous lawsuits. Abbott is also looking at Attorney General. Abbott was the Attorney General of Texas prior to Paxton and engaged in the same frivolous lawsuits. To date, Abbott has spent $6 billion on the border, and approximately the population of Waco has died due to Covid.

Most of the $6 billion was from unspent Covid funds. You remember the money that was to help mom and pop stores, restaurants, etc. Abbott quickly ran out of Covid money so he began shifting money from social services to make up the shortfall.

How do you fix stupid? I don’t have a clue.

[sop]

30. Trump is fading slowly, but his MAGA movement isn't dying, it's getting stronger and more organized.

[DaBronx]

33. Not to be a pessimist but

You ask a good and important question. Maybe a scarier way of asking the same question, and I dare say a more direct way of asking, would be to say, How many traits of fascism are we seeing play out in our country? I dare say we are in the orange zone still and not far from red. Our freedoms are being chipped away (roe, voting rights, gerrymandering, support of Putin and orange blofus, people voicing out loud(!) that they want a strongman leader, speeches by blofus designed to divide, disinformation powered by social media and other countries (!), efforts to weaken govt. and the list goes on. Biden’s speech was wonderful but my hope is that the voters will be so moved to the polls. I am afraid that third party candidate(s) will suck the air from Joe. I am still greatly concerned.
To sum up my meandering reply, I think because we are in so deep right now that a shift the other way is going to be marked by critical milestones (Biden winning, getting control of congress) and a slow but steady reduction in hate and all the other things that have gone astray. Long road ahead. Sometimes I wonder how we got here in my lifetime.
To end on a positive, Joe is awesome!

[skip fox]

41. It's hard not to take your point.

I hope you're wrong, but your analysis and worries are well founded and well put forth.

[sagetea]

37. Behavioral Extinction...

I believe that is what it's called. I think you are right, their behavior is getting worse because it's coming to an end.

Blackest before the dawn.

sage

[Ping Tung]

38. Trump and MAGA are running out of Bogeymen to scare the moderates.

Their racism, misogyny, xenophobia, nationalism and hatred have become too obvious to ignore.

They won't disappear but they will just change their their logos and invent new conspiracy theories for the gullible and frightened.

They say they need a "Strong Leader" to save them from the Bogeymen and have now selected a n (allegedly) billionaire who's main shtick is playing the victim and whining and attempting to convince the working class that he's on their side he's one of them.

[Initech]

39. The fact that he's hanging out with Javier Milei and Viktor Orban should terrify anyone.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

44. Trump and MAGA are only symptoms of what ails this country, which is white supremacy and all the related oppressions

that go with. Until it's addressed and dismantled, we'll keep fighting the same fights.